2016 HRC Team Honda CRF450RW

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Pgd09yz450 wrote:
By far best build anywhere, love going back and rereading this build thread, incredible job
Thank you very much! Love being able to share and show the incredible craftsmanship done by the people of HRC and Showa.
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Working on getting some good pictures of the bike and all the cool details... More to follow soon!





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Such a beautiful piece of moto art. Where in the house will you keep it on display? It looks like you finally went to a titanium shock spring?
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Such a beautiful piece of moto art. Where in the house will you keep it on display? It looks like you finally went to a titanium...
Such a beautiful piece of moto art. Where in the house will you keep it on display? It looks like you finally went to a titanium shock spring?
Thank you Mike! It will live in my office/guest bedroom for the time being...
The spring on the shock is actually steel (it's the spring that came with the shock). I will hunt down the correct spring rate (for my weight) in titanium at a later date.
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Such a beautiful piece of moto art. Where in the house will you keep it on display? It looks like you finally went to a titanium...
Such a beautiful piece of moto art. Where in the house will you keep it on display? It looks like you finally went to a titanium shock spring?
mxav8r wrote:
Thank you Mike! It will live in my office/guest bedroom for the time being... The spring on the shock is actually steel (it's the spring that...
Thank you Mike! It will live in my office/guest bedroom for the time being...
The spring on the shock is actually steel (it's the spring that came with the shock). I will hunt down the correct spring rate (for my weight) in titanium at a later date.
I thought it was titanium since it is wound with less coils than a typical spring.. It must be the special HRC alloy spring then. In addition to a titanium spring, I also have one of those HRC special alloy springs and they are indeed wound different than the Honda OEM springs.
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7/15/2022 7:17pm
First off... I promise more detailed/info pictures of the completed build are coming.. Just honestly haven't had the opportunity to get some quality pictures taken.

So I guess the build isn't completely done (You're right as usual Tokyo_Tiddler haha)... Found one more thing to add..

Think Technology light seat foam with carbon fiber base and titanium seat brackets!




This seat really is amazing... So light! I of course have heard about how light these seats are but never realized really what that would feel like. It's most noticeable when handling the stock/OEM seat and this seat at the same time. The OEM feels HEAVY.
The Think Technology complete seat only weighs 1lb 2oz 🤯

Besides being light the carbon base has a really cool feature the OEM seat does not... I guess one could call it a "seat brace"? Many Factory Teams have added an additional brace/bracket to the bottom of the seat pan to assist in keeping the seat from moving back (or just breaking off) under heavy loads (seat bouncing, etc...).

This Think carbon seat has that built in to the shape/mould. Hopefully the pictures below help show what I'm trying to explain

OEM seat vs Think seat


Think


This picture shows how/were the addition carbon brace actually "braces" on the subframe (obviously my subframe is carbon fiber but the OEM aluminum frame has the same cross member)


Very happy with this unexpected addition to my build! Need to trash the cover on the Think seat (I bought this seat "used") and put on the red Throttle Jockey cover on. And of course... more pictures to come!
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I had the Think seat for my CRF450 build also.. yes amazingly light, but the 450 was my rider and I found the seat foam way too hard so I switched out the foam to GUTS racing's lightweight foam. It is not as light as the Think foam but has more give to it.
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I keep coming back and going through this thread, and every time I’m more and more impressed with the build and final result.

You absolutely killed it 👍👍👍
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7/21/2022 3:58am
What kind of staple gun were you able to use to get through the carbon fiber base? I have a couple for my YZ builds and need to figure out.
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What kind of staple gun were you able to use to get through the carbon fiber base? I have a couple for my YZ builds and...
What kind of staple gun were you able to use to get through the carbon fiber base? I have a couple for my YZ builds and need to figure out.
Do you have Think Technology carbon seat base?

I ask because the staples don’t go through carbon… they go through what looks like fiberglass (I don’t know what it is really).
A genius design by Think Technology.



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7/23/2022 7:21am
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Do you have Think Technology carbon seat base? I ask because the staples don’t go through carbon… they go through what looks like fiberglass (I don’t...
Do you have Think Technology carbon seat base?

I ask because the staples don’t go through carbon… they go through what looks like fiberglass (I don’t know what it is really).
A genius design by Think Technology.



No Think Technology for me unfortunately lol. Thanks for the reply and I love your build! Everything about it is top notch.
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5/19/2023 11:22am

Wow... been awhile since I've provided an update! I finally found a Yoshimura RS9 Tim Gajser LE exhaust system. Yoshimura made only 24 (mine is 6 of 24) of these systems after Tim won the 2016 MXGP Championship. The complete system includes some cool swag 😎.

Notable differences between this system and the standard RS9 system:

- Hand finished and made by the same gentleman that built the HRC Team systems

- Titanium header has extra layer of Titanium on the front portion 

- Header includes the titanium O2 bung with "race team only" titanium support brackets

- Red carbon fiber mufflers with special graphics 

Have to mount up the system and finish putting on the appropriate Tim Gajser graphics. Then the bike will be fully DONE. Literally nothing else for me to add/do to the bike. 

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5/19/2023 11:47am

Thats impressive that you were able to track one down, by far nicest build ive ever seen

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Impressive indeed!  Now get back to work - on the 2023 HRC Replica Build!

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"Then the bike will be fully DONE. Literally nothing else for me to add/do to the bike. ".. ahh.. you just havent thought of it yet. You will be lying in bed one night and suddenly the realization will come, that there is something else that can be done. Smile

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10/5/2023 11:39pm

I don't really know what to say man... I look at nicely machined and nicely made composite parts every day with work (four wheels, not two) and like most of us I've seen more than my share of good build threads, this is firmly placed in that elite category. Crazy. The parts acquisition alone is mind boggling.

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I rarely check the bike builds (my mistake) and had no idea Tokyo Tiddler had a 4 stroke counterpart until your post on that moto related topic!

Woah. I'm really impressed by your detective skills (and by the amount of cash that probably goes with such an "investigation", lol). Kudos for building your own private factory bike, hadn't I gone through your whole topic, I'd never have guessed it wasn't the real thing, and I'm not too bad at factory Hondas... Amazing work putting all this together, great result.

Bravo!!!

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Hiya Mike.. we have been starving for more "factory fotos" as there hasn't been a lot on Vital recently.  One question I had for you is whether HRC in Europe was using the specialized fasters different than OEM design for the 4 strokes like they did for the 2 strokes. There are so many special HRC bolts on my 2 stroke RC250M build as HRC eliminated separate washers and spacers on most bolts to keep it simple for quick reassembly, I imagine. On my CRF450, I am using all the titanium hardware that the Geico Honda team used which only had a few specialized bolts such as for the seat.

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