Trump shot?

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SEEMEFIRST wrote:

Was the counter sniper using a BAR?

The little photo I saw appeared so.

MK13 is what I am reading.

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The video of the counter snipers, it does appear they hesitated until after the shooting started.

I wonder if the protocol was they had to get the "green light" from the event commander before firing? Or that they could only fire if fired upon?

Can't understand why else they would not have just taken him out instantly. The crowd saw the guy and was yelling, the counter snipers probably could not hear the crowd but it had to come over their communications there was a sniper. Only seconds to act but they still hesitated until shots were fired. Has to be a reason they didn't fire immediately. Not as a "conspiracy" but maybe a failure of SOP or scene management?

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7/14/2024 10:03am

So a 300 win mag?  Thanks.

The mag just looked huge in the photo.

 

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AZ35 wrote:
The video of the counter snipers, it does appear they hesitated until after the shooting started. I wonder if the protocol was they had to get...

The video of the counter snipers, it does appear they hesitated until after the shooting started.

I wonder if the protocol was they had to get the "green light" from the event commander before firing? Or that they could only fire if fired upon?

Can't understand why else they would not have just taken him out instantly. The crowd saw the guy and was yelling, the counter snipers probably could not hear the crowd but it had to come over their communications there was a sniper. Only seconds to act but they still hesitated until shots were fired. Has to be a reason they didn't fire immediately. Not as a "conspiracy" but maybe a failure of SOP or scene management?

This is far from my wheelhouse, but I read a thought that the snipers photographed may have been looking further away than the shooter was. A supporting argument was that the sniper looked up, out of the scope, after the first incoming shot. It looks to me like they never fired at all and that the shooter was killed by someone else.

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JAFO92 wrote:

So,  is Biden gonna come and do a presser denouncing this?  

I wont hold my breath.

 

jjavaman wrote:

Wasn’t trump mocking pelosi’s husband when he got attacked? Biden has already denounced it

People here love to share their disgust about things they imagine Biden or other Democrats could do, while ignoring the things Trump has actually done. 

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[img]https://myrgv.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/AP24196153543537-1392x928.jpg[/img]  

 

That one's better than what I saw earlier. 

From the grainy video, it didn't look to me that that guy shot. Pretty decent recoil on a  .300 win mag.

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People here love to share their disgust about things they imagine Biden or other Democrats could do, while ignoring the things Trump has actually done. 

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AZ35 wrote:
The video of the counter snipers, it does appear they hesitated until after the shooting started. I wonder if the protocol was they had to get...

The video of the counter snipers, it does appear they hesitated until after the shooting started.

I wonder if the protocol was they had to get the "green light" from the event commander before firing? Or that they could only fire if fired upon?

Can't understand why else they would not have just taken him out instantly. The crowd saw the guy and was yelling, the counter snipers probably could not hear the crowd but it had to come over their communications there was a sniper. Only seconds to act but they still hesitated until shots were fired. Has to be a reason they didn't fire immediately. Not as a "conspiracy" but maybe a failure of SOP or scene management?

kbsci wrote:
This is far from my wheelhouse, but I read a thought that the snipers photographed may have been looking further away than the shooter was. A...

This is far from my wheelhouse, but I read a thought that the snipers photographed may have been looking further away than the shooter was. A supporting argument was that the sniper looked up, out of the scope, after the first incoming shot. It looks to me like they never fired at all and that the shooter was killed by someone else.

They surely have green light to engage someone who is a threat. My total guess is he was making sure it wasn't one of their own guys first. Probably boggles the mind that bad guy can get that close. 

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I'm angry.... what is becoming of the country I love? I remember when Regan was shot, I was 11 and was angry. How scared is the...

I'm angry.... what is becoming of the country I love? I remember when Regan was shot, I was 11 and was angry. How scared is the left that they are doing this shit? The left is full of anger and violence,  remember the summer of peace? I might be rambling but it's because I'm angry!!!!

Desperate people do desperate things…

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Just saw a different video of sniper and does look like he had scope looking much farther down range, looked up to locate him, and when he went back to the scope at the very end of the video clip it looked like he had to drop muzzle quite a bit to get on target. Makes sense really, snipers aren't thinking about the threat 100 yards out... that's supposed to be other people's job. He was probably scanning tree lines and buildings well beyond where the shot came from. 

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AZ35 wrote:
The video of the counter snipers, it does appear they hesitated until after the shooting started. I wonder if the protocol was they had to get...

The video of the counter snipers, it does appear they hesitated until after the shooting started.

I wonder if the protocol was they had to get the "green light" from the event commander before firing? Or that they could only fire if fired upon?

Can't understand why else they would not have just taken him out instantly. The crowd saw the guy and was yelling, the counter snipers probably could not hear the crowd but it had to come over their communications there was a sniper. Only seconds to act but they still hesitated until shots were fired. Has to be a reason they didn't fire immediately. Not as a "conspiracy" but maybe a failure of SOP or scene management?

That's my take. Maybe even also a communications lapse between feds and locals. No doubt there will be adjustments to SOPs going forward.

7/14/2024 12:39pm
JAFO92 wrote:

So,  is Biden gonna come and do a presser denouncing this?  

I wont hold my breath.

 

jjavaman wrote:

Wasn’t trump mocking pelosi’s husband when he got attacked? Biden has already denounced it

kbsci wrote:

People here love to share their disgust about things they imagine Biden or other Democrats could do, while ignoring the things Trump has actually done. 

you are one amazingly sick individual to take THIS moment to say "Yeah, but Trump did...." and you are all that is wrong with politics. Oh, and you're a complete fucking pussy. 

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jjavaman wrote:

Wasn’t trump mocking pelosi’s husband when he got attacked? Biden has already denounced it

kbsci wrote:

People here love to share their disgust about things they imagine Biden or other Democrats could do, while ignoring the things Trump has actually done. 

you are one amazingly sick individual to take THIS moment to say "Yeah, but Trump did...." and you are all that is wrong with politics. Oh...

you are one amazingly sick individual to take THIS moment to say "Yeah, but Trump did...." and you are all that is wrong with politics. Oh, and you're a complete fucking pussy. 

Well he lives in Virginia, so chances are he is quite literally part of the problem. 😂

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jjavaman wrote:

Wasn’t trump mocking pelosi’s husband when he got attacked? Biden has already denounced it

kbsci wrote:

People here love to share their disgust about things they imagine Biden or other Democrats could do, while ignoring the things Trump has actually done. 

you are one amazingly sick individual to take THIS moment to say "Yeah, but Trump did...." and you are all that is wrong with politics. Oh...

you are one amazingly sick individual to take THIS moment to say "Yeah, but Trump did...." and you are all that is wrong with politics. Oh, and you're a complete fucking pussy. 

Well, people are taking this moment to lay blame at the feet of democrats, liberals, etc., before any hard evidence has been presented. Perhaps we should let things gestate at least 24 hours before…ah, who am I kidding?  Non-Moto exists to fan flames…

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kbsci wrote:

People here love to share their disgust about things they imagine Biden or other Democrats could do, while ignoring the things Trump has actually done. 

you are one amazingly sick individual to take THIS moment to say "Yeah, but Trump did...." and you are all that is wrong with politics. Oh...

you are one amazingly sick individual to take THIS moment to say "Yeah, but Trump did...." and you are all that is wrong with politics. Oh, and you're a complete fucking pussy. 

LoudLove wrote:
Well, people are taking this moment to lay blame at the feet of democrats, liberals, etc., before any hard evidence has been presented. Perhaps we should...

Well, people are taking this moment to lay blame at the feet of democrats, liberals, etc., before any hard evidence has been presented. Perhaps we should let things gestate at least 24 hours before…ah, who am I kidding?  Non-Moto exists to fan flames…

For how long have the Democrats/Liberals/Left proclaimed Trump a "threat to Democracy" or a "threat to the nation's existence", etc?

It's not a stretch that this person took them literally and acted upon it. 

And yet so far none have owned up and stated that maybe they were taking it too far. 

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you are one amazingly sick individual to take THIS moment to say "Yeah, but Trump did...." and you are all that is wrong with politics. Oh...

you are one amazingly sick individual to take THIS moment to say "Yeah, but Trump did...." and you are all that is wrong with politics. Oh, and you're a complete fucking pussy. 

LoudLove wrote:
Well, people are taking this moment to lay blame at the feet of democrats, liberals, etc., before any hard evidence has been presented. Perhaps we should...

Well, people are taking this moment to lay blame at the feet of democrats, liberals, etc., before any hard evidence has been presented. Perhaps we should let things gestate at least 24 hours before…ah, who am I kidding?  Non-Moto exists to fan flames…

For how long have the Democrats/Liberals/Left proclaimed Trump a "threat to Democracy" or a "threat to the nation's existence", etc? It's not a stretch that this...

For how long have the Democrats/Liberals/Left proclaimed Trump a "threat to Democracy" or a "threat to the nation's existence", etc?

It's not a stretch that this person took them literally and acted upon it. 

And yet so far none have owned up and stated that maybe they were taking it too far. 

The “threat to democracy” is a campaign slogan fully protected by the 1st Amendment.  Just like the shooter’s access to a rifle was fully protected by the 2nd amendment. 
 

Words didn’t almost take out Trump, a bullet did.  Who’s on board with repressing free speech in exchange for access to firearms?

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This picture has been posted a few times now but what is stated on the bottom was not.

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LoudLove wrote:
The “threat to democracy” is a campaign slogan fully protected by the 1st Amendment.  Just like the shooter’s access to a rifle was fully protected by...

The “threat to democracy” is a campaign slogan fully protected by the 1st Amendment.  Just like the shooter’s access to a rifle was fully protected by the 2nd amendment. 
 

Words didn’t almost take out Trump, a bullet did.  Who’s on board with repressing free speech in exchange for access to firearms?

Not even a good attempt. I mentioned neither the 1st nor 2nd amendments, nor did I question whether they had a right by free speech to use it. 

What I was implying, and always seems to be missed by Liberals, is personal responsibility. 

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This picture has been posted a few times now but what is stated on the bottom was not.

This picture has been posted a few times now but what is stated on the bottom was not.

Give me an H!

Give me an I!

Give me an L!

Give me an L! 

Give me an A!

Give me an .... ahh hell, y'all know where I'm going with this😁😁😁

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This picture has been posted a few times now but what is stated on the bottom was not.

This picture has been posted a few times now but what is stated on the bottom was not.

Looks like a 4chan post.

Not something that I would even begin to take as anything but bullshit.

 

No USSS sniper is going to throw his agency under the bus like that.

 

Though there are many questions to be asked about yesterday. 

Doubtful that we'll hear any of the real answers. 

 

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7/14/2024 1:52pm Edited Date/Time 7/14/2024 1:54pm

If true on the SS not giving the kill order.... that is a nuclear bomb going off. ^^^^^^

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jjavaman wrote:

Wasn’t trump mocking pelosi’s husband when he got attacked? Biden has already denounced it

I have to be honest, when the rent boy you invite to your own house, goes bad, that's funny right there. 

Pelosi trying to be the pillar of the community, while hubby gets his jollies from folk off the streets, is Irony Much. 

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This picture has been posted a few times now but what is stated on the bottom was not.

This picture has been posted a few times now but what is stated on the bottom was not.

Looks like a 4chan post. Not something that I would even begin to take as anything but bullshit.   No USSS sniper is going to throw...

Looks like a 4chan post.

Not something that I would even begin to take as anything but bullshit.

 

No USSS sniper is going to throw his agency under the bus like that.

 

Though there are many questions to be asked about yesterday. 

Doubtful that we'll hear any of the real answers. 

 

 

 

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You can use this event as a reminder and point out that over the top rhetoric about threat to democracy and comparisons to Hitler aren't a great idea without that being taken as blame. It's a reminder everyone needs to hear.

It would be nice if some politicians or their home health aid that runs their social media between diaper changes deleted some old posts and committed themselves to avoiding such language in the future, but I know that's asking a lot. 

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jjavaman wrote:

Wasn’t trump mocking pelosi’s husband when he got attacked? Biden has already denounced it

kbsci wrote:

People here love to share their disgust about things they imagine Biden or other Democrats could do, while ignoring the things Trump has actually done. 

you are one amazingly sick individual to take THIS moment to say "Yeah, but Trump did...." and you are all that is wrong with politics. Oh...

you are one amazingly sick individual to take THIS moment to say "Yeah, but Trump did...." and you are all that is wrong with politics. Oh, and you're a complete fucking pussy. 

I don't know what you think I'm talking about, but I'm referring more to people on this forum than to Donald Trump.

Jeremy A.K. is using something he imagines Joe Biden did to defend something Donald Trump really did do.

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So people were able to get pictures of him lining up the shot and a local police officer climbed up on the roof to confront him but didn't have a gun so retreated back down his ladder right before the shots fired. We are such a joke of a country sometimes. 

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Heres a pic of where the rally was and the X is where the shooter was shot by Secret service https://www.google.com/maps/place/Butler+Farm+Show+Inc./@40.8575283,-79.9711567,555a,35y,90h/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x88337d9afc83da3f:0x92ffe08b085eb97e!8m2!3d40.855805!4d-79.972949!16s%2Fg%2F1tghdst7?entry=ttu  

Heres a pic of where the rally was and the X is where the shooter was shot by Secret service

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Butler+Farm+Show+Inc./@40.8575283,-79…

 

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Which way was the stage looking. It looks like it would probably be in a SSW direction, and if so then it’s incredibly lucky that the...

Which way was the stage looking. It looks like it would probably be in a SSW direction, and if so then it’s incredibly lucky that the bullet only grazed the ear. If Trump’s head were not turned to his right, anything hitting the ear would have also hit his skull. 


 

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I don't know what you think I'm talking about, but I'm referring more to people on this forum than to Donald Trump. Jeremy A.K. is using...

I don't know what you think I'm talking about, but I'm referring more to people on this forum than to Donald Trump.

Jeremy A.K. is using something he imagines Joe Biden did to defend something Donald Trump really did do.

That came across as him defending Trump to you? Very weird. 

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