2025 Silly Season.

Spoonguy
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Motofinne wrote:
Gavin Towers is 20 years old (or at least turning 20 this year). I would've been shocked if Star would've actually signed him to a pro...

Gavin Towers is 20 years old (or at least turning 20 this year). I would've been shocked if Star would've actually signed him to a pro deal.

I doubt he is any better than Jack Chambers and he is 15th in the points at the moment in MX2.

 

Am I wrong, but Chambers has a pretty weak bike, doesn't he? You need a Yamaha or Austrian bike in Europe to be competitive in the MX2 class the other bikes just don't have the HP.

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Motofinne
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Motofinne wrote:
Gavin Towers is 20 years old (or at least turning 20 this year). I would've been shocked if Star would've actually signed him to a pro...

Gavin Towers is 20 years old (or at least turning 20 this year). I would've been shocked if Star would've actually signed him to a pro deal.

I doubt he is any better than Jack Chambers and he is 15th in the points at the moment in MX2.

 

Spoonguy wrote:
Am I wrong, but Chambers has a pretty weak bike, doesn't he? You need a Yamaha or Austrian bike in Europe to be competitive in the...

Am I wrong, but Chambers has a pretty weak bike, doesn't he? You need a Yamaha or Austrian bike in Europe to be competitive in the MX2 class the other bikes just don't have the HP.

Plenty of other riders that are on weaker or similar equipment. Chambers is on Dixon Kawasaki, and Dixon bikes have never been slow (just a bit unreliable).

But sure, he is down on equipment compared to the top factory Austrian bikes. There are differences between the factory Austrian bikes, Lewis hinted in a podcast that not all riders are on the same top spec 250 bikes.

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ML512 wrote:

Lewis mentioned the Towers thing last week on our MXGP pod. It was in the works before Bennistant's injury, after they moved Bonacorsi up

MX Guy wrote:

ML, where are you at on the TLD Ducati possibility?

In Europe Ducati is pretty ruthless on the fact that everything needs to be as uniform as possible. Look at their WSKB/MotoGP/MXGP team and even the liveries from national support teams need to be very uniform.

That is what they told me and that makes following rumors a little more believable. HEP (pushed by progressive because advertising with a Ducati looks good), WarHorse Racing (USA SBK) and possibly a flat track team would "merge": read get all under the uniform banner with same sponsors and stuff. The flat track is a little in doubt but some sponsors are pushing because it's such a big part of American moto culture. But this is a rumor don't pin me on it.

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Spoonguy wrote:

Justin Cooper to Husky? Hope it is long term with a lot of money, that team has been a career killer since Osborne left.

No Ferrandis to husky then?

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5/23/2024 8:55am

Who and what are the Coenen Brothers and where are they from ? 

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5/23/2024 9:44am
mb60 wrote:

Who and what are the Coenen Brothers and where are they from ? 

Hot prospects from Belgium racing in MX2 that have expressed the desire to race in the U.S.

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5/23/2024 2:48pm Edited Date/Time 5/23/2024 2:48pm
dan22 wrote:

holy heck Michael - can you verify any of the Coenen brothers to HRC bit?

Kind of weird move, if you ask me!

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5/23/2024 3:44pm
mb60 wrote:

Who and what are the Coenen Brothers and where are they from ? 

HuskyEd wrote:

Hot prospects from Belgium racing in MX2 that have expressed the desire to race in the U.S.

I keep waiting for them to stop hitting the ground and string together any kind of consistency, especially sasha, who seems to have a tick less speed than his brother.

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5/24/2024 5:14am Edited Date/Time 5/24/2024 5:15am
mb60 wrote:

Who and what are the Coenen Brothers and where are they from ? 

They're the filmmakers that made The Big Lebowski. From Minnesota I think.

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5/24/2024 8:07am
mb60 wrote:

Who and what are the Coenen Brothers and where are they from ? 

They're the filmmakers that made The Big Lebowski. From Minnesota I think.

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Who will pick up Cole Davies? Because if you're scaling down as KTM Group you should sign the best! Because before you know Husqvarna and GasGas are some pathetic stepchild treated brands.

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MXMattii wrote:
Who will pick up Cole Davies? Because if you're scaling down as KTM Group you should sign the best! Because before you know Husqvarna and GasGas...

Who will pick up Cole Davies? Because if you're scaling down as KTM Group you should sign the best! Because before you know Husqvarna and GasGas are some pathetic stepchild treated brands.

PC should just bring up Drew Adams and sign Cole Davies too. Change it up and have some new rookies. RV, Stroupe, DeanO, AC, Forkner all won as rookies. Bring some fresh blood in. I like that Cole Davies kid, he lives in my brothers neighborhood and he ran into Davies while he was pressure washing his bike and let him know we’ve been rooting for him in his futures races. Kid was also rockin the mullet, pretty hard not to root for him 

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5/24/2024 3:11pm

I admire the KTM group. They live in reality and recognize the economic environment and adhere to a budget.

It doesn't feel good but I like that they operate with open eyes.

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Cole Davies to star is what I heard. 

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Bow977 wrote:

Cole Davies to star is what I heard. 

I believe he'll be riding Star's amateur program 

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McElrath to the madd Kawasaki team. What a strange run his career has taken since he was battling for wins and the championship at star 2020. 

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7/12/2024 1:01pm Edited Date/Time 7/15/2024 9:21am

(New contracts)

Honda HRC:
250: Shimoda, Hymas
450: Jett/Hunter Lawrence

Monster Energy Kawasaki: Anderson, (Prado)

Pro-Circuit Kawasaki: McAdoo, Kitchen, Hammaker, Forkner (Marchbanks) **Masterpool?

Star Racing Yamaha:
250: Deegan, Thrasher, Bennick, (Mosiman, Brown, Anstie)
450: Tomac, Webb, Cooper

Triumph: Savatgy, Swoll, (Smith, Robertson)

RedBull KTM:
250: Vialle, Beaumer
450: Sexton, Plessinger

RockStar Husky:
250: Hampshire, Cochran
450: Stewart

GasGas:
250: DiFrancesco
450: Barcia

Firepower Honda:
250: (Mumford)

H.E.P. Suzuki: Roczen **Craig?

Twisted Tea Suzuki: Chisholm, McElrath (Nichols)

Beta 450: Bloss

Club MX Yamaha: 250: Schock, (Vohland)

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7/12/2024 1:04pm

Forkner?

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7/12/2024 1:56pm Edited Date/Time 7/12/2024 1:59pm
Flatliner wrote:

Forkner?

You must be joking...

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ML512
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Rosso391 wrote:
(New contracts) Honda HRC: 250: Shimoda, Hymas 450: Jett/Hunter Lawrence Monster Energy Kawasaki: Anderson, (Prado) Pro-Circuit Kawasaki: McAdoo, Kitchen, Hammaker, Forkner (Marchbanks) **Masterpool? Star Racing Yamaha...

(New contracts)

Honda HRC:
250: Shimoda, Hymas
450: Jett/Hunter Lawrence

Monster Energy Kawasaki: Anderson, (Prado)

Pro-Circuit Kawasaki: McAdoo, Kitchen, Hammaker, Forkner (Marchbanks) **Masterpool?

Star Racing Yamaha:
250: Deegan, Thrasher, Bennick, (Mosiman, Brown, Anstie)
450: Tomac, Webb, Cooper

Triumph: Savatgy, Swoll, (Smith, Robertson)

RedBull KTM:
250: Vialle, Beaumer
450: Sexton, Plessinger

RockStar Husky:
250: Hampshire, Cochran
450: Stewart

GasGas:
250: DiFrancesco
450: Barcia

Firepower Honda:
250: (Mumford)

H.E.P. Suzuki: Roczen **Craig?

Twisted Tea Suzuki: Chisholm, McElrath (Nichols)

Beta 450: Bloss

Club MX Yamaha: 250: Schock, (Vohland)

Vohland to Club, Robertson to Triumph.

Reynolds doesn’t have a Club contract for 2025.

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7/12/2024 2:34pm
Rosso391 wrote:
(New contracts) Honda HRC: 250: Shimoda, Hymas 450: Jett/Hunter Lawrence Monster Energy Kawasaki: Anderson, (Prado) Pro-Circuit Kawasaki: McAdoo, Kitchen, Hammaker, Forkner (Marchbanks) **Masterpool? Star Racing Yamaha...

(New contracts)

Honda HRC:
250: Shimoda, Hymas
450: Jett/Hunter Lawrence

Monster Energy Kawasaki: Anderson, (Prado)

Pro-Circuit Kawasaki: McAdoo, Kitchen, Hammaker, Forkner (Marchbanks) **Masterpool?

Star Racing Yamaha:
250: Deegan, Thrasher, Bennick, (Mosiman, Brown, Anstie)
450: Tomac, Webb, Cooper

Triumph: Savatgy, Swoll, (Smith, Robertson)

RedBull KTM:
250: Vialle, Beaumer
450: Sexton, Plessinger

RockStar Husky:
250: Hampshire, Cochran
450: Stewart

GasGas:
250: DiFrancesco
450: Barcia

Firepower Honda:
250: (Mumford)

H.E.P. Suzuki: Roczen **Craig?

Twisted Tea Suzuki: Chisholm, McElrath (Nichols)

Beta 450: Bloss

Club MX Yamaha: 250: Schock, (Vohland)

ML512 wrote:

Vohland to Club, Robertson to Triumph.

Reynolds doesn’t have a Club contract for 2025.

Reynolds to triumph ?

7/12/2024 2:35pm
Rosso391 wrote:
(New contracts) Honda HRC: 250: Shimoda, Hymas 450: Jett/Hunter Lawrence Monster Energy Kawasaki: Anderson, (Prado) Pro-Circuit Kawasaki: McAdoo, Kitchen, Hammaker, Forkner (Marchbanks) **Masterpool? Star Racing Yamaha...

(New contracts)

Honda HRC:
250: Shimoda, Hymas
450: Jett/Hunter Lawrence

Monster Energy Kawasaki: Anderson, (Prado)

Pro-Circuit Kawasaki: McAdoo, Kitchen, Hammaker, Forkner (Marchbanks) **Masterpool?

Star Racing Yamaha:
250: Deegan, Thrasher, Bennick, (Mosiman, Brown, Anstie)
450: Tomac, Webb, Cooper

Triumph: Savatgy, Swoll, (Smith, Robertson)

RedBull KTM:
250: Vialle, Beaumer
450: Sexton, Plessinger

RockStar Husky:
250: Hampshire, Cochran
450: Stewart

GasGas:
250: DiFrancesco
450: Barcia

Firepower Honda:
250: (Mumford)

H.E.P. Suzuki: Roczen **Craig?

Twisted Tea Suzuki: Chisholm, McElrath (Nichols)

Beta 450: Bloss

Club MX Yamaha: 250: Schock, (Vohland)

ML512 wrote:

Vohland to Club, Robertson to Triumph.

Reynolds doesn’t have a Club contract for 2025.

Thank you. Trying to get all the rumors straight.

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Rosso391 wrote:
(New contracts) Honda HRC: 250: Shimoda, Hymas 450: Jett/Hunter Lawrence Monster Energy Kawasaki: Anderson, (Prado) Pro-Circuit Kawasaki: McAdoo, Kitchen, Hammaker, Forkner (Marchbanks) **Masterpool? Star Racing Yamaha...

(New contracts)

Honda HRC:
250: Shimoda, Hymas
450: Jett/Hunter Lawrence

Monster Energy Kawasaki: Anderson, (Prado)

Pro-Circuit Kawasaki: McAdoo, Kitchen, Hammaker, Forkner (Marchbanks) **Masterpool?

Star Racing Yamaha:
250: Deegan, Thrasher, Bennick, (Mosiman, Brown, Anstie)
450: Tomac, Webb, Cooper

Triumph: Savatgy, Swoll, (Smith, Robertson)

RedBull KTM:
250: Vialle, Beaumer
450: Sexton, Plessinger

RockStar Husky:
250: Hampshire, Cochran
450: Stewart

GasGas:
250: DiFrancesco
450: Barcia

Firepower Honda:
250: (Mumford)

H.E.P. Suzuki: Roczen **Craig?

Twisted Tea Suzuki: Chisholm, McElrath (Nichols)

Beta 450: Bloss

Club MX Yamaha: 250: Schock, (Vohland)

ML512 wrote:

Vohland to Club, Robertson to Triumph.

Reynolds doesn’t have a Club contract for 2025.

NSP139 wrote:

Reynolds to triumph ?

No, Triumph is full. They have four riders, but because of Savatgy's unknown status for 2025 250 Supercross, they're also talking about bringing their MX2 rider Mikkel Haarup over. He ages out of MX2 this year and their MXGP program doesn't start until 2026 now.

So the team will be Swoll, Robertson, Smith, Savatgy (unless he opts out of his contract), and possibly Haarup.

Reynolds hasn't shown enough to get back onto a factory spot.

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Flatliner wrote:

Forkner?

Rosso391 wrote:

You must be joking...

Likely to stay at PC.

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ML512
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Rosso391 wrote:
(New contracts) Honda HRC: 250: Shimoda, Hymas 450: Jett/Hunter Lawrence Monster Energy Kawasaki: Anderson, (Prado) Pro-Circuit Kawasaki: McAdoo, Kitchen, Hammaker, Forkner (Marchbanks) **Masterpool? Star Racing Yamaha...

(New contracts)

Honda HRC:
250: Shimoda, Hymas
450: Jett/Hunter Lawrence

Monster Energy Kawasaki: Anderson, (Prado)

Pro-Circuit Kawasaki: McAdoo, Kitchen, Hammaker, Forkner (Marchbanks) **Masterpool?

Star Racing Yamaha:
250: Deegan, Thrasher, Bennick, (Mosiman, Brown, Anstie)
450: Tomac, Webb, Cooper

Triumph: Savatgy, Swoll, (Smith, Robertson)

RedBull KTM:
250: Vialle, Beaumer
450: Sexton, Plessinger

RockStar Husky:
250: Hampshire, Cochran
450: Stewart

GasGas:
250: DiFrancesco
450: Barcia

Firepower Honda:
250: (Mumford)

H.E.P. Suzuki: Roczen **Craig?

Twisted Tea Suzuki: Chisholm, McElrath (Nichols)

Beta 450: Bloss

Club MX Yamaha: 250: Schock, (Vohland)

Masterpool doesn't have a contract for PC, yet...and unsure if it'll materialize. But he has some sort of offer from Club.

Craig is closer to getting a deal done with HEP than Ferrandis is to getting a new deal done with Phoenix. I only mean that from the fact they haven't really sat down to figure it out from what I'm aware. 

 

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7/12/2024 2:42pm

I really hoped Vohland would get another chance with PC, he looked really good on it.

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