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I think the problem here is that the Star bikes were failing sound checks all day and riders were being docked points after the second moto, but somehow Deegan's bike was not tested because it wasn't "running right". But it did finish, stopped overheating and was revved in celebration last everyone saw
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The bike is in gear when they test, neutral switches haven't been usable for a while because of it. We had our's set to engage in first or second...
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Bikes are in neutral during Sx sound testing on Fridays.
this question is so stupid i almost didnt reply. there is an astronomical difference in a muffler failing a post moto sound test, and a rider failing a drug test. 🤦🏽
I’m not saying that did or didn’t happen but all we have at this point is rumor and hearsay.
not every Star bike was tested so it’s possible that it wasn’t attempted (not saying it wasn’t) hopefully we’ll know at some point. Honestly nobody knows at this point.
Dumping sand down the air box lol
I thought He had cut the track . JT said that he had made a mistake and got back onto the track, and cut it unintentionally . He may have gone to the AMA and told them what happened and that was how JT knows it was unintended. I did not hear an explanation of why people were thinking it was the failed sound test. Maybe because of so many others failing?
Ben Robinson is the rider that had a 205 ish.
Back when the times did not count for anything, there was a local pro I knew that would cut the track to get his name on the print out's. He figured out a spot he was able to cut without being seen. They did not watch for cutting back then since it wasn't going to help You at all. Everybody would always wonder how a guy who was always outside the top 20 at a local race was able to get such a fast lap. One of my buddies that had a legit top10 lap time in the 450 class ( 6, 7 maybe 8th so long ago I can't remember ) was asking him what lines he was taking. Hoping to knock some more time off his laps and he told him.
I’ve seen various team bikes go thru sound & have some silencers pass and some fail. Especially during the 1st few SX races when they’re testing “an assortment” of silencers.
Exhaust companies used to have inserts between the mid pipe and muffler when I raced to pass sound.
Maybe the air horn lunatics were hired by Star so you can't hear their loud ass bikes
"theres an air horn ring inside mx sports"
It's interesting the star bikes are in question for being too loud and I've heard a few riders now in interviews talk about hearing the star bikes coming up from behind them.
Gotcha, I think on the review pod they were saying he lost it for sound but I did hear them mention the track cut on the Pulp show.
So can these bike change maps with the push of a button? What if the map is changed to one that makes the bike not start or run at all or even blow it up? I don't know I am just asking.
That’s the air box noise they can hear. It’s a completely different thing than exhaust. The Yamahas with the air box up front are loud with a lot of air being sucked in.
Why doesn’t the ama require a data logger? Pretty simple to figure out who is playing with sound maps that way.
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This isn’t James Bond with the ejectors seat button lol. Theoretically you can put a map in that is incredibly lean and force a failure but that seems pretty asinine
You're team wasn't "Janky", just under funded. Remember Roosevelt's quote about "the man in the arena".
Wow after listening to pulp last night and Deegan bike not starting after it left the podium is a joke. There wasn’t eyes on the bike the whole time then it magically does not start. This is why there needs to have eyes on the bikes the whole time after the race just like there is in other forms of Motorsports.
I get that it's weird that Deagan's bike mysteriously couldn't start for sound check, be t the kid could be running a damn spark arrestor and he'd still win.
If we have sound test and the number one problem and complaint about tracks is sound. Why do we not lower the sound. Maybe something like utility quad levels. Am I crazy here.
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Only rider that got docked was smith because he failed twice.
Did you not see the smoke it was producing second moto?
This tells me how much of the race you watched, you should have clearly seen the smoke coming out of his bike second moto.
Deeg's bike was venting from the breather tube, not the exhaust. And it stopped after Vialle crashed and he quit abusing the clutch. The last lap it quit smoking and finished, but yes, if it had failed sound he would have been docked points the same as Smith. I do disagree with the rule and think it should be a fine on the team (my opinion) ...but I find it quite interesting that it wouldn't run
Full disclosure, if MY rider was going to lose championship points and the officials left me alone with it ...
On the Moto 60 show Matthes explained it…Smith was penalized because he failed twice, both pre and post race, Deegan passed his test after practice so even if he didn’t pass post race he would not have been docked any points. He also said that Deegan runs a different silencer than the rest of the team…everyone can take their tinfoil hats off and put their torches down now…
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