Bench Racing | Southwick National Main Races

6/29/2024 1:25pm

I’m sorry but those Austrian bikes look like shit. Bouncing all over the place and not in a controlled way. Every one the last few years.

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6/29/2024 1:25pm

Hope Chase can pull off another Jekyll and Hyde so we have an interesting moto 2

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Tumic wrote:

Well, he has not been him self since he left France. 
 

A two time world champion should not get rubber legs on this track.

64smoker wrote:
Not making any excuses ( I couldn’t care who wins, as long as we see good racing )  but them Austrian bikes in the USA look...

Not making any excuses ( I couldn’t care who wins, as long as we see good racing )  but them Austrian bikes in the USA look shit outdoors  compared to the rest , who was the last rider to go well on one ?

crusty_xx wrote:
I think Zacho was the last guy to make a husky or ktm work outdoors. In 2017. Since then I don't think anybody has even been...

I think Zacho was the last guy to make a husky or ktm work outdoors. In 2017. Since then I don't think anybody has even been too 5 in points on one 

Exactly and they’ve got double the riders of any other team to 

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6/29/2024 1:26pm

I hope Barcia can get healed up quickly. The series is more exciting with him at his best.

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6/29/2024 1:26pm
64smoker wrote:
Not making any excuses ( I couldn’t care who wins, as long as we see good racing )  but them Austrian bikes in the USA look...

Not making any excuses ( I couldn’t care who wins, as long as we see good racing )  but them Austrian bikes in the USA look shit outdoors  compared to the rest , who was the last rider to go well on one ?

crusty_xx wrote:
I think Zacho was the last guy to make a husky or ktm work outdoors. In 2017. Since then I don't think anybody has even been...

I think Zacho was the last guy to make a husky or ktm work outdoors. In 2017. Since then I don't think anybody has even been too 5 in points on one 

tomlopez wrote:

ZachO did it again on the 450 in 2020.

Yeah that's a different bike 

6/29/2024 1:26pm
devotid wrote:
Lappers had NOTHING to do with the reason Vialle lost. You MUST get by lappers to win and he just doesnt have any fight in him...

Lappers had NOTHING to do with the reason Vialle lost. You MUST get by lappers to win and he just doesnt have any fight in him. Just doing a bunch of fast laps doesnt win championships. 

Yes almost landing on a lapper and suddenly losing 5 seconds did nothing. 

devotid wrote:

Are you proving my point for me? 

 

Thanks?

No, you’re brain dead.

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6/29/2024 1:27pm
64smoker wrote:
I think the positive changes they have make are for supercross and the bikes suffered outdoors , understandable ad so is  where the money is...

I think the positive changes they have make are for supercross and the bikes suffered outdoors , understandable ad so is  where the money is , but it’s no coincidence who’s gone to the ktm team recently and performed ? 

Another thing is beside Vialle that is a world champ, when was the last time the austrian US teams had top tier riders?.

They have sexton now and he performs about the same as he did on the Honda. 
 

For many years the best riders have been on Star or Honda bikes. 

 

Put Haiden or Jett on a KTM and im confident that they will win on that bike to.

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6/29/2024 1:29pm
Tumic wrote:

Well, he has not been him self since he left France. 
 

A two time world champion should not get rubber legs on this track.

vdrsnk04 wrote:

Must be why he beat Deeg’s for the SX title this year…

tomlopez wrote:
In 5 years, nobody will give two shits about that regional title that he won by 4 points... Deegan's performance in a real national series this...

In 5 years, nobody will give two shits about that regional title that he won by 4 points... Deegan's performance in a real national series this season is going down for the ages.

I thought SX was over MX?

I see Americans telling Euros to come over all the time, for the real test! 

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tomlopez wrote:

Chase ain't the best sand rider. Got worked by Jett last year at Southwick, and didn't compete with Tomac in 2022 here either.

Looks like Chase is working the bike side to side losing traction instead of staying centered off the rear seat.

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vdrsnk04 wrote:

I hope Barcia can get healed up quickly. The series is more exciting with him at his best.

fax! I will always remember the battles with dunge wht was it ‘15 outdoors 🤔 good times 👌🏾

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6/29/2024 1:31pm
64smoker wrote:
I think the positive changes they have make are for supercross and the bikes suffered outdoors , understandable ad so is  where the money is...

I think the positive changes they have make are for supercross and the bikes suffered outdoors , understandable ad so is  where the money is , but it’s no coincidence who’s gone to the ktm team recently and performed ? 

Tumic wrote:
Another thing is beside Vialle that is a world champ, when was the last time the austrian US teams had top tier riders?. They have sexton...

Another thing is beside Vialle that is a world champ, when was the last time the austrian US teams had top tier riders?.

They have sexton now and he performs about the same as he did on the Honda. 
 

For many years the best riders have been on Star or Honda bikes. 

 

Put Haiden or Jett on a KTM and im confident that they will win on that bike to.

Daniel Blaire just said on a pulp video that KTM wasn't willing to get anywhere close to the deal that Star is giving Cole Davies for development. I don't think it should be surprising that they aren't getting the talent or the results if they aren't putting in the resources.

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6/29/2024 1:31pm

does Vialle run air forks?

6/29/2024 1:33pm
vdrsnk04 wrote:

Must be why he beat Deeg’s for the SX title this year…

tomlopez wrote:
In 5 years, nobody will give two shits about that regional title that he won by 4 points... Deegan's performance in a real national series this...

In 5 years, nobody will give two shits about that regional title that he won by 4 points... Deegan's performance in a real national series this season is going down for the ages.

VHM wrote:

I thought SX was over MX?

I see Americans telling Euros to come over all the time, for the real test! 

Tom’s title is a big deal. If he never won anything else in America it would be a bummer. Everyone in the top 10-15 in 450 is regional title holder, or at close to it.

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Need to ban start maps, devices, grates

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6/29/2024 1:35pm
64smoker wrote:
I think the positive changes they have make are for supercross and the bikes suffered outdoors , understandable ad so is  where the money is...

I think the positive changes they have make are for supercross and the bikes suffered outdoors , understandable ad so is  where the money is , but it’s no coincidence who’s gone to the ktm team recently and performed ? 

Tumic wrote:
Another thing is beside Vialle that is a world champ, when was the last time the austrian US teams had top tier riders?. They have sexton...

Another thing is beside Vialle that is a world champ, when was the last time the austrian US teams had top tier riders?.

They have sexton now and he performs about the same as he did on the Honda. 
 

For many years the best riders have been on Star or Honda bikes. 

 

Put Haiden or Jett on a KTM and im confident that they will win on that bike to.

HunterE38 wrote:
Daniel Blaire just said on a pulp video that KTM wasn't willing to get anywhere close to the deal that Star is giving Cole Davies for...

Daniel Blaire just said on a pulp video that KTM wasn't willing to get anywhere close to the deal that Star is giving Cole Davies for development. I don't think it should be surprising that they aren't getting the talent or the results if they aren't putting in the resources.

Exactly I don’t understand why but that teams been a failure in motocross for a long time now 

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6/29/2024 1:36pm

chase trying too hard , but he kinda have too lol 

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6/29/2024 1:37pm
GD2 wrote:
450 Moto 1

450 Moto 1

Barcia 6th with the knee.  Let’s go riding anyway.

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6/29/2024 1:38pm

Holy shit Hunter is hauling after finish line. 

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6/29/2024 1:38pm

Sexton likely getting docked for that off track move 

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6/29/2024 1:41pm

Krestinov! I remember watching him 15 years ago ? How old is he now anyone know ?

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6/29/2024 1:44pm

does freddie noren just suck?

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mtbkris2 wrote:

Fans flipping off riders, classy

I’ve been seeing that flipping the finger stuff at Southwick for years.  It was here a guy was yelling bad things at Stew standing next to his parents.

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6/29/2024 1:46pm

did peacock just take a shit for anyone else?

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6/29/2024 1:47pm
Narwhal wrote:

did peacock just take a shit for anyone else?

Negative Ghost rider

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dhp_mma94 wrote:

chase trying too hard , but he kinda have too lol 

Sand is just are not Chase's deal. He's always struggled with it, even sand sections in supercross.

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crusty_xx wrote:
I think Zacho was the last guy to make a husky or ktm work outdoors. In 2017. Since then I don't think anybody has even been...

I think Zacho was the last guy to make a husky or ktm work outdoors. In 2017. Since then I don't think anybody has even been too 5 in points on one 

tomlopez wrote:

ZachO did it again on the 450 in 2020.

crusty_xx wrote:

Yeah that's a different bike 

You just said Ktm or Husky...

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64smoker wrote:

Krestinov! I remember watching him 15 years ago ? How old is he now anyone know ?

Turns 34 in August. 

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6/29/2024 1:51pm

Hunter and Jett 3 seconds faster than Chase last lap

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Overcusser wrote:

pretty surprising Vialle is so inconsistent outdoors. 

Vialle won here last year and nearly did again this time.

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