“New” 96 CR250 marketplace find

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This popped up on Facebook in Aus - yep, certainly pricey - roughly converts to 27k usd - see a few 2007 models advertised from time to time, but these must be pretty rare? 

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 I''d have to see more pictures of that crate 

The front axle hold down is missing, the bent stand under the engine, footpeg holdowns not on the pegs. The rotor cover should be in a box, not zip tied to the wheel. 

 

And I'm not 100% sure Honda was using these crates in 1996, most stuff was wood then. 

Not saying it's not real, but people have faked crates in the past 

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Would be great to take it out and ride it. These bikes were good.

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Farmer J wrote:

Would be great to take it out and ride it. These bikes were good.

You'd have to spend more money then it's ever going to be worth to ride it 

The brake system and cooling system are fried, Tires dry rotted, bearings seized, cylinder probably rusted, suspension seized. 

Every time one of these show up I wonder what the plan is with it, they would make a great display but riding it would be so much work 

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HonTech23 wrote:
You'd have to spend more money then it's ever going to be worth to ride it  The brake system and cooling system are fried, Tires dry...

You'd have to spend more money then it's ever going to be worth to ride it 

The brake system and cooling system are fried, Tires dry rotted, bearings seized, cylinder probably rusted, suspension seized. 

Every time one of these show up I wonder what the plan is with it, they would make a great display but riding it would be so much work 

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6/20/2024 8:10pm Edited Date/Time 6/20/2024 8:11pm
HonTech23 wrote:
You'd have to spend more money then it's ever going to be worth to ride it  The brake system and cooling system are fried, Tires dry...

You'd have to spend more money then it's ever going to be worth to ride it 

The brake system and cooling system are fried, Tires dry rotted, bearings seized, cylinder probably rusted, suspension seized. 

Every time one of these show up I wonder what the plan is with it, they would make a great display but riding it would be so much work 

16 years of dealership experience I've seen brake systems destroyed after only 10 years of neglect let alone 28.

I've seen cooling systems plugged solid after being neglected for a decade on bikes people were riding.

Bikes that have sat in crates for just 5 years with rusted fork springs that were in forks covered in fork oil 

These things were full of all fluids except Fuel when shipped to dealers, so that crap has been inside these system destroying everything for almost 3 decades now. Just by the way the crate looks you can tell everything steel not covered in oil has rusted. 

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6/20/2024 8:37pm

crazy perspective, makes total sense, just never occurred to me how much decay went down. i think it shipped new, must still be new. but yea, damn near everything needs gone through. 

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HonTech23 wrote:
 I''d have to see more pictures of that crate  The front axle hold down is missing, the bent stand under the engine, footpeg holdowns not on...

 I''d have to see more pictures of that crate 

The front axle hold down is missing, the bent stand under the engine, footpeg holdowns not on the pegs. The rotor cover should be in a box, not zip tied to the wheel. 

 

And I'm not 100% sure Honda was using these crates in 1996, most stuff was wood then. 

Not saying it's not real, but people have faked crates in the past 

Interesting.

I worked at a Honda dealership in the '80s and never once saw a wooden crate; everything was steel and screwed together, same type as the one in the photo. We used to have buckets full of the 6mm x1.00 crate screws and nuts we saved from disassembly and the crates were saved for salvage.

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HonTech23 wrote:
 I''d have to see more pictures of that crate  The front axle hold down is missing, the bent stand under the engine, footpeg holdowns not on...

 I''d have to see more pictures of that crate 

The front axle hold down is missing, the bent stand under the engine, footpeg holdowns not on the pegs. The rotor cover should be in a box, not zip tied to the wheel. 

 

And I'm not 100% sure Honda was using these crates in 1996, most stuff was wood then. 

Not saying it's not real, but people have faked crates in the past 

Interesting. I worked at a Honda dealership in the '80s and never once saw a wooden crate; everything was steel and screwed together, same type as...

Interesting.

I worked at a Honda dealership in the '80s and never once saw a wooden crate; everything was steel and screwed together, same type as the one in the photo. We used to have buckets full of the 6mm x1.00 crate screws and nuts we saved from disassembly and the crates were saved for salvage.

I remember seeing old setup instructions for Goldwings in wood crates and the older guys at my 1st dealership told me atvs use to come in them as well. 

Everything has been metal or returnable since I started (2008) except for the Navi and the XR150, there packed in cardboard 

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HonTech23 wrote:
 I''d have to see more pictures of that crate  The front axle hold down is missing, the bent stand under the engine, footpeg holdowns not on...

 I''d have to see more pictures of that crate 

The front axle hold down is missing, the bent stand under the engine, footpeg holdowns not on the pegs. The rotor cover should be in a box, not zip tied to the wheel. 

 

And I'm not 100% sure Honda was using these crates in 1996, most stuff was wood then. 

Not saying it's not real, but people have faked crates in the past 

Interesting. I worked at a Honda dealership in the '80s and never once saw a wooden crate; everything was steel and screwed together, same type as...

Interesting.

I worked at a Honda dealership in the '80s and never once saw a wooden crate; everything was steel and screwed together, same type as the one in the photo. We used to have buckets full of the 6mm x1.00 crate screws and nuts we saved from disassembly and the crates were saved for salvage.

HonTech23 wrote:
I remember seeing old setup instructions for Goldwings in wood crates and the older guys at my 1st dealership told me atvs use to come in...

I remember seeing old setup instructions for Goldwings in wood crates and the older guys at my 1st dealership told me atvs use to come in them as well. 

Everything has been metal or returnable since I started (2008) except for the Navi and the XR150, there packed in cardboard 

This was more than 20 years before 2008.

There were some manufacturers that used wood in that timeframe (I believe Kawasaki was one but I worked at that dealership prior to the Honda shop, so it's been a minute) but I don't remember when they transitioned to steel. 

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6/20/2024 10:44pm

ooooh steel frame

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6/20/2024 11:34pm Edited Date/Time 6/22/2024 2:50pm

i’m a buyer at 3200 USD … it isn’t worth more than that 

Edit: ok you nine silly down voters convinced me , i’ll come up to 3250! 

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Farmer J wrote:

Would be great to take it out and ride it. These bikes were good.

HonTech23 wrote:
You'd have to spend more money then it's ever going to be worth to ride it  The brake system and cooling system are fried, Tires dry...

You'd have to spend more money then it's ever going to be worth to ride it 

The brake system and cooling system are fried, Tires dry rotted, bearings seized, cylinder probably rusted, suspension seized. 

Every time one of these show up I wonder what the plan is with it, they would make a great display but riding it would be so much work 

That's a days work man...

Assuming the barrell/waterways are still happy campers.

6/21/2024 12:34am

While all these observations and criticisms are valid, it’s still likely to be the least bastardised example of this bike you are likely to find. 40k ish is what it’s worth to the owner, they are probably hoping a couple of people value it somewhere similar and it escalates to or beyond that number

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While all these observations and criticisms are valid, it’s still likely to be the least bastardised example of this bike you are likely to find. 40k...

While all these observations and criticisms are valid, it’s still likely to be the least bastardised example of this bike you are likely to find. 40k ish is what it’s worth to the owner, they are probably hoping a couple of people value it somewhere similar and it escalates to or beyond that number

Agreed, it's the same with cars, I've sold Mk1 Golfs for more than they sold for new and have a couple of AE86 Corollas right now, insane money for an old 1.6 Toyota...

An example of, arguably, the coolest motocross bike of its era (or ever) in that condition is a collectors item.

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6/21/2024 1:02am
While all these observations and criticisms are valid, it’s still likely to be the least bastardised example of this bike you are likely to find. 40k...

While all these observations and criticisms are valid, it’s still likely to be the least bastardised example of this bike you are likely to find. 40k ish is what it’s worth to the owner, they are probably hoping a couple of people value it somewhere similar and it escalates to or beyond that number

Richy wrote:
Agreed, it's the same with cars, I've sold Mk1 Golfs for more than they sold for new and have a couple of AE86 Corollas right now...

Agreed, it's the same with cars, I've sold Mk1 Golfs for more than they sold for new and have a couple of AE86 Corollas right now, insane money for an old 1.6 Toyota...

An example of, arguably, the coolest motocross bike of its era (or ever) in that condition is a collectors item.

Wow, well played with the AE86s. Imagine what an undriven one of those would go for now!

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HonTech23 wrote:
 I''d have to see more pictures of that crate  The front axle hold down is missing, the bent stand under the engine, footpeg holdowns not on...

 I''d have to see more pictures of that crate 

The front axle hold down is missing, the bent stand under the engine, footpeg holdowns not on the pegs. The rotor cover should be in a box, not zip tied to the wheel. 

 

And I'm not 100% sure Honda was using these crates in 1996, most stuff was wood then. 

Not saying it's not real, but people have faked crates in the past 

Interesting. I worked at a Honda dealership in the '80s and never once saw a wooden crate; everything was steel and screwed together, same type as...

Interesting.

I worked at a Honda dealership in the '80s and never once saw a wooden crate; everything was steel and screwed together, same type as the one in the photo. We used to have buckets full of the 6mm x1.00 crate screws and nuts we saved from disassembly and the crates were saved for salvage.

HonTech23 wrote:
I remember seeing old setup instructions for Goldwings in wood crates and the older guys at my 1st dealership told me atvs use to come in...

I remember seeing old setup instructions for Goldwings in wood crates and the older guys at my 1st dealership told me atvs use to come in them as well. 

Everything has been metal or returnable since I started (2008) except for the Navi and the XR150, there packed in cardboard 

I was at Honda all through the 90s and all bikes assembled in the US (Ohio) came in wooden crates, motocrossers made in Japan came in those. Yes the crate is damaged, and the brake fluid would be brown, but unless moisture got into the systems it's fine.

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Interesting. I worked at a Honda dealership in the '80s and never once saw a wooden crate; everything was steel and screwed together, same type as...

Interesting.

I worked at a Honda dealership in the '80s and never once saw a wooden crate; everything was steel and screwed together, same type as the one in the photo. We used to have buckets full of the 6mm x1.00 crate screws and nuts we saved from disassembly and the crates were saved for salvage.

HonTech23 wrote:
I remember seeing old setup instructions for Goldwings in wood crates and the older guys at my 1st dealership told me atvs use to come in...

I remember seeing old setup instructions for Goldwings in wood crates and the older guys at my 1st dealership told me atvs use to come in them as well. 

Everything has been metal or returnable since I started (2008) except for the Navi and the XR150, there packed in cardboard 

OldTech wrote:
I was at Honda all through the 90s and all bikes assembled in the US (Ohio) came in wooden crates, motocrossers made in Japan came in...

I was at Honda all through the 90s and all bikes assembled in the US (Ohio) came in wooden crates, motocrossers made in Japan came in those. Yes the crate is damaged, and the brake fluid would be brown, but unless moisture got into the systems it's fine.

Thats why brake fluid needs changed every 2 or so years, water gets in the system even though it's "sealed" due to brake fluid being hygroscopic. 

Not only that but 28 year old brake fluid is not good for seals and I'd bet the caliper pistons are pretty stuck and the master cylinder isn't looking great either 

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6/21/2024 5:34am Edited Date/Time 6/21/2024 5:35am

If I buy it do I have to pay the set up fee too?

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HonTech23 wrote:
I remember seeing old setup instructions for Goldwings in wood crates and the older guys at my 1st dealership told me atvs use to come in...

I remember seeing old setup instructions for Goldwings in wood crates and the older guys at my 1st dealership told me atvs use to come in them as well. 

Everything has been metal or returnable since I started (2008) except for the Navi and the XR150, there packed in cardboard 

OldTech wrote:
I was at Honda all through the 90s and all bikes assembled in the US (Ohio) came in wooden crates, motocrossers made in Japan came in...

I was at Honda all through the 90s and all bikes assembled in the US (Ohio) came in wooden crates, motocrossers made in Japan came in those. Yes the crate is damaged, and the brake fluid would be brown, but unless moisture got into the systems it's fine.

HonTech23 wrote:
Thats why brake fluid needs changed every 2 or so years, water gets in the system even though it's "sealed" due to brake fluid being hygroscopic. ...

Thats why brake fluid needs changed every 2 or so years, water gets in the system even though it's "sealed" due to brake fluid being hygroscopic. 

Not only that but 28 year old brake fluid is not good for seals and I'd bet the caliper pistons are pretty stuck and the master cylinder isn't looking great either 

I get it, went to Honda school too. The brake system attracts water through heat cycles, opening the cap, or storage in a swamp. I am positive I would ride that thing, and could get it going for you.

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6/21/2024 5:45am Edited Date/Time 6/21/2024 5:45am

In 84 I uncrated my own CR 250. 
if I remember right it was a steel crate. 

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6/21/2024 6:11am

My '95 CR125 and '96 CR250 were my 2 favorite bikes of that era. 

6/21/2024 6:13am

Honda Cr500 crate  90s. Been in my barn 20 years+ Sold a 96 CR500 years back to a guy in South Africa needed a shipping crate to send it. Local Honda dealer had them stacked for scrap told me to take what I wanted. Grabbed an extra  and here it is today. They were steel. Should put it on market place for 10k I know what I got no low ballers LOL!!!!!

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Every Honda crate that comes through our door looks like that, condition-wise.  We see a lot of units damaged in shipping, especially Austrian stuff.  The manufacturers crates are not sturdy enough for modern shipping methods.  The shipping companies don't give a fuck about the job they do.

6/21/2024 7:15am

The rear brakes have been used. Can see that clear as day.

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6/21/2024 1:59pm
HonTech23 wrote:
You'd have to spend more money then it's ever going to be worth to ride it  The brake system and cooling system are fried, Tires dry...

You'd have to spend more money then it's ever going to be worth to ride it 

The brake system and cooling system are fried, Tires dry rotted, bearings seized, cylinder probably rusted, suspension seized. 

Every time one of these show up I wonder what the plan is with it, they would make a great display but riding it would be so much work 

I bet you went to MMI Laughing 

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6/21/2024 7:42pm Edited Date/Time 6/22/2024 1:45pm

I’ll let mine go for $10K. Smoking deal if I do say myself…..

BTW… There are some silly good responses in this thread. Funny stuff.


Forgot to show the right side. Shameful self promotion.

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6/22/2024 1:21pm
TooOld4WFO wrote:
I’ll let mine go for $10K. Smoking deal if I do say myself….. BTW… There are some silly good responses in this thread. Funny stuff. Forgot...

I’ll let mine go for $10K. Smoking deal if I do say myself…..

BTW… There are some silly good responses in this thread. Funny stuff.


Forgot to show the right side. Shameful self promotion.

10K is a good deal for someone who's looking for that bike.  You probably could have sold it for 15k+ during covid.

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1/31/2025 6:52pm

To everyone critical of the authenticity of this bike and its crate:

I believe this is a bike I purchased in 2018 in Cleveland Ohio, from a collector who had the bike stored in  his basement fully assembled.

I purchased the bike for a friend in Australia, I put it into a 2018 CRF450R crate and sent it to Australia.

During the shipment the crate was dropped and the stock pipe got a small dent/scratch.

I’ll reach out to find more info but I believe this is the one.

Photo below is bike at Wiseco where my good friends there allowed me to use their dock for crating and freight pick up.

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1/31/2025 6:52pm
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McGrath rode the 1993 frame, not the 1996, but the decals will sell the bike!

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