Statement from Rich Taylor (LACR Lawsuit)

Regis wrote:

  This whole thing stinks only because KOOKsey with 1/3 facts right created a click bait title and video that got everyone riled up by painting...

 

This whole thing stinks only because KOOKsey with 1/3 facts right created a click bait title and video that got everyone riled up by painting a grossly false picture about cheating, signed waivers, cross dressing and calling rich names, claiming it was a Loretta’s qualifier (because of his hate for mxsports) only to release an edited video and then a follow up calling rich out to debate “the bad guy” (to only help this views) and drag his entire family by posting photos of them.

I won’t debate anyone on their feeling on the facts and the bottom line is the track was sued so people will have the right to feel the way they do. However, having known rich for over 30 years and his history as a rider, a friend, an industry insider and supporter I just wish the correct facts were presented for people to make their determination. Nobody is going to do that because they won’t take the time to read and find out before seeing the video.
 

We read threads all the time about tracks, accidents and flaggers where people continually call for change for safety. Rich did something about it and the track, which is still open will now think twice about safety. Rich did something that will have a track thinking safety first. To try to look at perfectly groomed photos of the turn in question and make a determination is laughable.  Many factors of that day and the condition need to be taken into consideration to to determine the legitimacy of a case being brought.  I’ll take Rich’s assertion over anyone in here and ESPECIALLY the industry self proclaimed bad guy KOOKSEY. The guy who tells people to burn their EKS goggles and then immediately pushes one his only sponsors, a goggle company as a replacement.  

This is stuff happens all the time to tracks everywhere.  KOOKSEY could have picked any one of this situations to make a video bit he didn’t because this time he could USE someone for clicks and people came with pitchforks. 

Now, I expect the thread keeper Nathaniel who is heavily invested in this thread to reply to this comment and tell me I’m wrong….. 5…4….3…2….

 

yak651 wrote:

So confused, so you argue in one case that it can’t be a tracks fault yet in this case because your friend Rich sued it was...

So confused, so you argue in one case that it can’t be a tracks fault yet in this case because your friend Rich sued it was a good thing because now the track will keep safety in mind??? 

Regis wrote:

Nope… Personally, I am on the side of knowing I take the risk every time I enter a track. My choice, my responsibility.  However, having known...

Nope…

Personally, I am on the side of knowing I take the risk every time I enter a track. My choice, my responsibility. 

However, having known Rich….  It had to be a grossly negligent situation. He’s been around longer than anyone and hasn’t done this before. Like I said everyone is entitled to make an opinion based on wether you believe a track should ever be sued. I’m fine with that.

I just wish the correct facts and situation were brought to the Vital jury. They weren’t.  A heavily formed hit piece was made with lots of facts and information wrong.  This was done on purpose to drag Rich and his family first to make them look as liars, cheats and bad people. Which, ultimately tainted Rich and families reputation before people could make up their own minds. 

Regis wrote:

Do you truly have all the facts?  Have you talked with Rich? Were you there? Have you ridden the track? Did you ride it the day...

Do you truly have all the facts? 

Have you talked with Rich? Were you there? Have you ridden the track? Did you ride it the day in question? 
you don’t have ll the facts. Neither do I.

if you are going to try to compare my bias to KOOKsey then you need to at least know what you are talking about it. Don’t compare me to him.

The only fact I have is the type of person rich is.  You don’t keep being friends with someone for 30 years if they aren’t solid people.

But-  you are 100 correct.  I should refrain from posting. 👊🏼

 

LungButter wrote:

The facts we know are.... Rich signed his kid up to race.  He did so without knowing if the track was what he would consider "safe". ...

The facts we know are....

Rich signed his kid up to race. 

He did so without knowing if the track was what he would consider "safe". 

Rich's kid crashed at the end of the day after many motos had already been raced and his kid had already raced on the track that day.

Rich's kid got hurt after getting out of control on an obstacle that had been raced on hundreds (maybe even thousands) of times that day. 

Rich got mad that his kid got hurt on an obstacle that he let him race on but didn't know about. 

Rich sued the track for being unsafe.

So, given those facts, what are we left to think? 

I think that Rich shoulda taken some responsibility for having his head up his ass all day and letting his kid race a track that he considered unsafe.  Instead of doing that, he sued because he was too big of a dumb fuck to notice the track wasn't what he would consider safe.

What did I miss?

And for the record, I never watched the Krooksey video, I was on Team Rich until he came out and admitted that he sued the track himself instead of taking responsibility for being a shitty parent and putting his kid in a situation he deemed unsafe.

 

Regis wrote:

Do you truly have all the facts?  Have you talked with Rich? Were you there? Have you ridden the track? Did you ride it the day...

Do you truly have all the facts? 

Have you talked with Rich? Were you there? Have you ridden the track? Did you ride it the day in question? 
you don’t have ll the facts. Neither do I.

if you are going to try to compare my bias to KOOKsey then you need to at least know what you are talking about it. Don’t compare me to him.

The only fact I have is the type of person rich is.  You don’t keep being friends with someone for 30 years if they aren’t solid people.

But-  you are 100 correct.  I should refrain from posting. 👊🏼

 

LungButter wrote:

The facts we know are.... Rich signed his kid up to race.  He did so without knowing if the track was what he would consider "safe". ...

The facts we know are....

Rich signed his kid up to race. 

He did so without knowing if the track was what he would consider "safe". 

Rich's kid crashed at the end of the day after many motos had already been raced and his kid had already raced on the track that day.

Rich's kid got hurt after getting out of control on an obstacle that had been raced on hundreds (maybe even thousands) of times that day. 

Rich got mad that his kid got hurt on an obstacle that he let him race on but didn't know about. 

Rich sued the track for being unsafe.

So, given those facts, what are we left to think? 

I think that Rich shoulda taken some responsibility for having his head up his ass all day and letting his kid race a track that he considered unsafe.  Instead of doing that, he sued because he was too big of a dumb fuck to notice the track wasn't what he would consider safe.

What did I miss?

And for the record, I never watched the Krooksey video, I was on Team Rich until he came out and admitted that he sued the track himself instead of taking responsibility for being a shitty parent and putting his kid in a situation he deemed unsafe.

 

Nathaniel129 wrote:

I also believe the corner and berm still exists, right? So you'd think, IF safety was his prime concern, the settlement would include some sort of...

I also believe the corner and berm still exists, right?

So you'd think, IF safety was his prime concern, the settlement would include some sort of provision that the corner be changed. If I'm wrong on that, whatever, BUT my point is the ultimate outcome of this APPEARS to be....

Rich himself sued, got a settlement, and went on his way. If safety of the riders was a concern you'd think he would do something other than filing a lawsuit without any public statement of WHY to bring awareness to this apparently grossly negligent safety issue. 

Instead, they got a significant amount of money, and the kid who actually got hurt is now fully recovered and bombing around on mountain bikes. 

Where is the improvement to track safety and awareness? Maybe I'm being ignorant here, but I don't see ANY benefit to anyone other than Rich and his kid. 

LungButter wrote:

The facts we know are.... Rich signed his kid up to race.  He did so without knowing if the track was what he would consider "safe". ...

The facts we know are....

Rich signed his kid up to race. 

He did so without knowing if the track was what he would consider "safe". 

Rich's kid crashed at the end of the day after many motos had already been raced and his kid had already raced on the track that day.

Rich's kid got hurt after getting out of control on an obstacle that had been raced on hundreds (maybe even thousands) of times that day. 

Rich got mad that his kid got hurt on an obstacle that he let him race on but didn't know about. 

Rich sued the track for being unsafe.

So, given those facts, what are we left to think? 

I think that Rich shoulda taken some responsibility for having his head up his ass all day and letting his kid race a track that he considered unsafe.  Instead of doing that, he sued because he was too big of a dumb fuck to notice the track wasn't what he would consider safe.

What did I miss?

And for the record, I never watched the Krooksey video, I was on Team Rich until he came out and admitted that he sued the track himself instead of taking responsibility for being a shitty parent and putting his kid in a situation he deemed unsafe.

 

Nathaniel129 wrote:

I also believe the corner and berm still exists, right? So you'd think, IF safety was his prime concern, the settlement would include some sort of...

I also believe the corner and berm still exists, right?

So you'd think, IF safety was his prime concern, the settlement would include some sort of provision that the corner be changed. If I'm wrong on that, whatever, BUT my point is the ultimate outcome of this APPEARS to be....

Rich himself sued, got a settlement, and went on his way. If safety of the riders was a concern you'd think he would do something other than filing a lawsuit without any public statement of WHY to bring awareness to this apparently grossly negligent safety issue. 

Instead, they got a significant amount of money, and the kid who actually got hurt is now fully recovered and bombing around on mountain bikes. 

Where is the improvement to track safety and awareness? Maybe I'm being ignorant here, but I don't see ANY benefit to anyone other than Rich and his kid. 

avidchimp wrote:

That whole section has been reworked multiple times since then.

Regis wrote:

That’s fine,  but sincerely I am not just having a conversation with you.  It’s a thread that’s had thousands of views and countless replies.  I said...

That’s fine,  but sincerely I am not just having a conversation with you.  It’s a thread that’s had thousands of views and countless replies. 
I said your name, just poking because you have had a response or comment ALOT in this thread. 
 

and NO, I am not like KOOKSEY. You have not watched the videos as you have stated.  His videos were originally chalked full of lies, mis-information and bashing that can be fact checked.  Not opinions. The whole first part of his videos were Rich and family bashing setting them up as liars, cheats and scumbags (word he actually used) BEFORE he got to the point of Rich’s suit. He then took the video down and re-edited it. He constantly says in his videos “he’s heard”, “he may be wrong” , “well I got some things wrong”. 
 

dude, if you are going to compare my “bias” to his,  at least watch and understand what he said and how he went about it compared to me. Then understand he took some of the false stuff out of his videos hours later.  
 

for a fact, I know rich better than some click baiting scum with an agenda. I understand people will base opinion of rich solely on the fact he brought a case against a track and if that’s the only determining factor of how you feel about him, fine.

I am here to have Rich’s back as a human a friend and a person. I can sit here and this I will never sue a track, I’ve ridden 42 years and still don’t think I ever will.  But like Rich, if I chose to do so it’s going to be because I feel it’s damn well warranted.

Nathaniel129 wrote:

My point is your opinion is influenced by 30 years of friendship, and some others have been influenced by a crazy click-hungry fool. If I had...

My point is your opinion is influenced by 30 years of friendship, and some others have been influenced by a crazy click-hungry fool.

If I had a friend involved in something like this, I would try to stay out of the public discussion on it because no matter what you THINK, your opinion is biased. Just the facts of life. If it was my friend I know I probably wouldn't be able to be impartial.

There are crazies on both sides of this discussion, but I think there are plenty of people in the middle who are just going on facts and not the click-bait nonsense. Just don't lump everyone who disagrees with you into THAT category.

And no I won't watch his videos. Why would I want to watch a bunch of lies, according to you? I'll keep forming my opinion on the facts. 

Regis wrote:

Do you truly have all the facts?  Have you talked with Rich? Were you there? Have you ridden the track? Did you ride it the day...

Do you truly have all the facts? 

Have you talked with Rich? Were you there? Have you ridden the track? Did you ride it the day in question? 
you don’t have ll the facts. Neither do I.

if you are going to try to compare my bias to KOOKsey then you need to at least know what you are talking about it. Don’t compare me to him.

The only fact I have is the type of person rich is.  You don’t keep being friends with someone for 30 years if they aren’t solid people.

But-  you are 100 correct.  I should refrain from posting. 👊🏼

 

Regis wrote:

  This whole thing stinks only because KOOKsey with 1/3 facts right created a click bait title and video that got everyone riled up by painting...

 

This whole thing stinks only because KOOKsey with 1/3 facts right created a click bait title and video that got everyone riled up by painting a grossly false picture about cheating, signed waivers, cross dressing and calling rich names, claiming it was a Loretta’s qualifier (because of his hate for mxsports) only to release an edited video and then a follow up calling rich out to debate “the bad guy” (to only help this views) and drag his entire family by posting photos of them.

I won’t debate anyone on their feeling on the facts and the bottom line is the track was sued so people will have the right to feel the way they do. However, having known rich for over 30 years and his history as a rider, a friend, an industry insider and supporter I just wish the correct facts were presented for people to make their determination. Nobody is going to do that because they won’t take the time to read and find out before seeing the video.
 

We read threads all the time about tracks, accidents and flaggers where people continually call for change for safety. Rich did something about it and the track, which is still open will now think twice about safety. Rich did something that will have a track thinking safety first. To try to look at perfectly groomed photos of the turn in question and make a determination is laughable.  Many factors of that day and the condition need to be taken into consideration to to determine the legitimacy of a case being brought.  I’ll take Rich’s assertion over anyone in here and ESPECIALLY the industry self proclaimed bad guy KOOKSEY. The guy who tells people to burn their EKS goggles and then immediately pushes one his only sponsors, a goggle company as a replacement.  

This is stuff happens all the time to tracks everywhere.  KOOKSEY could have picked any one of this situations to make a video bit he didn’t because this time he could USE someone for clicks and people came with pitchforks. 

Now, I expect the thread keeper Nathaniel who is heavily invested in this thread to reply to this comment and tell me I’m wrong….. 5…4….3…2….

 

LouisianaMotocross wrote:

 Embarrassing take that is clearly biased because you have known him for 30 years.    because we want rider safety we should be happy the rich...

 Embarrassing take that is clearly biased because you have known him for 30 years. 
 

because we want rider safety we should be happy the rich “did something about it”. How about rich realizes the track isn’t safe and doesn’t provide them his business anymore? Clown take. 

Regis wrote:

All am saying is you can’t have your cake and eat it too.  Yes I’ve known Rich for years and know his character better than lies spewed...

All am saying is you can’t have your cake and eat it too. 

Yes I’ve known Rich for years and know his character better than lies spewed by KooKsey and the lies ultimately spread in the original thread about this based on the videos. 
I said in my post above, I understand the disdain people have solely based on a case being brought. 
 

His character was assasinated in those videos as a liar, a cheat and called a scumbag and then slightly retracted (silently) with an edited video. But the damage was done. So I’m here to say he isn’t a liar, cheat or scumbag.  He’s done more for this industry then anyone practically combined and for him to bring a case means it has validity and should be at the minimum considered as such.

Regis wrote:

Do you truly have all the facts?  Have you talked with Rich? Were you there? Have you ridden the track? Did you ride it the day...

Do you truly have all the facts? 

Have you talked with Rich? Were you there? Have you ridden the track? Did you ride it the day in question? 
you don’t have ll the facts. Neither do I.

if you are going to try to compare my bias to KOOKsey then you need to at least know what you are talking about it. Don’t compare me to him.

The only fact I have is the type of person rich is.  You don’t keep being friends with someone for 30 years if they aren’t solid people.

But-  you are 100 correct.  I should refrain from posting. 👊🏼

 

LungButter wrote:

The facts we know are.... Rich signed his kid up to race.  He did so without knowing if the track was what he would consider "safe". ...

The facts we know are....

Rich signed his kid up to race. 

He did so without knowing if the track was what he would consider "safe". 

Rich's kid crashed at the end of the day after many motos had already been raced and his kid had already raced on the track that day.

Rich's kid got hurt after getting out of control on an obstacle that had been raced on hundreds (maybe even thousands) of times that day. 

Rich got mad that his kid got hurt on an obstacle that he let him race on but didn't know about. 

Rich sued the track for being unsafe.

So, given those facts, what are we left to think? 

I think that Rich shoulda taken some responsibility for having his head up his ass all day and letting his kid race a track that he considered unsafe.  Instead of doing that, he sued because he was too big of a dumb fuck to notice the track wasn't what he would consider safe.

What did I miss?

And for the record, I never watched the Krooksey video, I was on Team Rich until he came out and admitted that he sued the track himself instead of taking responsibility for being a shitty parent and putting his kid in a situation he deemed unsafe.

 

G-man wrote:

Not reading through all 22 pages of this mess, but it is completely wrong that Rich Taylor who is in the industry with his X brand...

Not reading through all 22 pages of this mess, but it is completely wrong that Rich Taylor who is in the industry with his X brand goggles, decided to sue the track and it could possibly be shut down in the future.

One of the reasons I decided to move from California to Arizona was because they shut down two iconic tracks because of lawsuits, Indian dunes and Saddleback park.

Now history repeats itself and the same thing has happened in Arizona. At one point they had nine tracks. Now they have two or three. 😬😡🤬

Regis wrote:

  This whole thing stinks only because KOOKsey with 1/3 facts right created a click bait title and video that got everyone riled up by painting...

 

This whole thing stinks only because KOOKsey with 1/3 facts right created a click bait title and video that got everyone riled up by painting a grossly false picture about cheating, signed waivers, cross dressing and calling rich names, claiming it was a Loretta’s qualifier (because of his hate for mxsports) only to release an edited video and then a follow up calling rich out to debate “the bad guy” (to only help this views) and drag his entire family by posting photos of them.

I won’t debate anyone on their feeling on the facts and the bottom line is the track was sued so people will have the right to feel the way they do. However, having known rich for over 30 years and his history as a rider, a friend, an industry insider and supporter I just wish the correct facts were presented for people to make their determination. Nobody is going to do that because they won’t take the time to read and find out before seeing the video.
 

We read threads all the time about tracks, accidents and flaggers where people continually call for change for safety. Rich did something about it and the track, which is still open will now think twice about safety. Rich did something that will have a track thinking safety first. To try to look at perfectly groomed photos of the turn in question and make a determination is laughable.  Many factors of that day and the condition need to be taken into consideration to to determine the legitimacy of a case being brought.  I’ll take Rich’s assertion over anyone in here and ESPECIALLY the industry self proclaimed bad guy KOOKSEY. The guy who tells people to burn their EKS goggles and then immediately pushes one his only sponsors, a goggle company as a replacement.  

This is stuff happens all the time to tracks everywhere.  KOOKSEY could have picked any one of this situations to make a video bit he didn’t because this time he could USE someone for clicks and people came with pitchforks. 

Now, I expect the thread keeper Nathaniel who is heavily invested in this thread to reply to this comment and tell me I’m wrong….. 5…4….3…2….

 

TAUTOG wrote:

How is suing the track making our sport safer? Multiple people in this thread have ridden the track and said the turn is a non issue...

How is suing the track making our sport safer? Multiple people in this thread have ridden the track and said the turn is a non issue. As long as you use it as a turn and not a jump lol

avidchimp wrote:

Andy, I hear what you're saying, and I agree somewhat, but the thing is we could all understand a little more if this was instigated by...

Andy, I hear what you're saying, and I agree somewhat, but the thing is we could all understand a little more if this was instigated by an insurance company, but to personally sue a track that requires a signed waiver of liability to ride is kinda chickenshit. As mentioned above, a lot of people feel it is Rich, as a parent, that should have been the one to take action if he and Ricky Ryan thought it unsafe to race by not racing. To make the decision to race despite said feelings about safety is 100% on Rich and Zach, not LACR.

For the record, that turn was visible from the entire spectator/parking area, and was not even close to unsafe unless something went terribly wrong, which once again, is the riders fault for getting out of shape. It's not like a T-Rex jumped onto the track and made Zach whiskey throttle it.

avidchimp wrote:

Andy, I hear what you're saying, and I agree somewhat, but the thing is we could all understand a little more if this was instigated by...

Andy, I hear what you're saying, and I agree somewhat, but the thing is we could all understand a little more if this was instigated by an insurance company, but to personally sue a track that requires a signed waiver of liability to ride is kinda chickenshit. As mentioned above, a lot of people feel it is Rich, as a parent, that should have been the one to take action if he and Ricky Ryan thought it unsafe to race by not racing. To make the decision to race despite said feelings about safety is 100% on Rich and Zach, not LACR.

For the record, that turn was visible from the entire spectator/parking area, and was not even close to unsafe unless something went terribly wrong, which once again, is the riders fault for getting out of shape. It's not like a T-Rex jumped onto the track and made Zach whiskey throttle it.

Tortuga wrote:

Besides the Cooksey video, seems like a whole lot of speculation going on. Not just this response, but in the whole thread. A couple things; Rich...

Besides the Cooksey video, seems like a whole lot of speculation going on. Not just this response, but in the whole thread. A couple things; Rich never said he brought a case specifically against the track LACR. He said he brought a case on behalf of his son. That's all he said. He also said it wasn't until AFTER his sons accident that he was informed of Rick Ryans comment. Not one of us are sure who or what that case was directed at but once you involve a lawyer they will go after any insurance associated with the race, or the track itself. In a lot of cases, even if you don't want them to.

Also, people who didn't ride the track making assumptions based upon photos that they saw. I rode the track and can say it was a steep drop and a long way down to the water truck path. No, it wasn't a cliff, it was a steep drop. That's all I'm saying, no it didn't stop me from riding - but I was aware of that turn.  Another thing. People saying you can easily see this turn from the parking area. Not really true. If you were parked on the east end of the track near the vet track, yes, you can see it. If you were parked by the starting line where a lot of people park, no you couldn't see it, or at least it wasn't nearly as visible. So, it depends on where you were parked and viewing from. No clue where Rich was viewing from.

 

As already said. Rich has been riding/racing longer than most in this thread. In all the decades and hundreds of tracks he's rode he's never filed a lawsuit. I'm not supporting what he did here, but I doubt he did this looking for a payday.

avidchimp wrote:

The only place you couldn't see that turn from the parking area is if you were behind the scoring tower, but I see what you are...

The only place you couldn't see that turn from the parking area is if you were behind the scoring tower, but I see what you are saying.

It's just a sad fucking deal all around. 

Tortuga wrote:

Besides the Cooksey video, seems like a whole lot of speculation going on. Not just this response, but in the whole thread. A couple things; Rich...

Besides the Cooksey video, seems like a whole lot of speculation going on. Not just this response, but in the whole thread. A couple things; Rich never said he brought a case specifically against the track LACR. He said he brought a case on behalf of his son. That's all he said. He also said it wasn't until AFTER his sons accident that he was informed of Rick Ryans comment. Not one of us are sure who or what that case was directed at but once you involve a lawyer they will go after any insurance associated with the race, or the track itself. In a lot of cases, even if you don't want them to.

Also, people who didn't ride the track making assumptions based upon photos that they saw. I rode the track and can say it was a steep drop and a long way down to the water truck path. No, it wasn't a cliff, it was a steep drop. That's all I'm saying, no it didn't stop me from riding - but I was aware of that turn.  Another thing. People saying you can easily see this turn from the parking area. Not really true. If you were parked on the east end of the track near the vet track, yes, you can see it. If you were parked by the starting line where a lot of people park, no you couldn't see it, or at least it wasn't nearly as visible. So, it depends on where you were parked and viewing from. No clue where Rich was viewing from.

 

As already said. Rich has been riding/racing longer than most in this thread. In all the decades and hundreds of tracks he's rode he's never filed a lawsuit. I'm not supporting what he did here, but I doubt he did this looking for a payday.

G-man wrote:

Not reading through all 22 pages of this mess, but it is completely wrong that Rich Taylor who is in the industry with his X brand...

Not reading through all 22 pages of this mess, but it is completely wrong that Rich Taylor who is in the industry with his X brand goggles, decided to sue the track and it could possibly be shut down in the future.

One of the reasons I decided to move from California to Arizona was because they shut down two iconic tracks because of lawsuits, Indian dunes and Saddleback park.

Now history repeats itself and the same thing has happened in Arizona. At one point they had nine tracks. Now they have two or three. 😬😡🤬

Regis wrote:

  This whole thing stinks only because KOOKsey with 1/3 facts right created a click bait title and video that got everyone riled up by painting...

 

This whole thing stinks only because KOOKsey with 1/3 facts right created a click bait title and video that got everyone riled up by painting a grossly false picture about cheating, signed waivers, cross dressing and calling rich names, claiming it was a Loretta’s qualifier (because of his hate for mxsports) only to release an edited video and then a follow up calling rich out to debate “the bad guy” (to only help this views) and drag his entire family by posting photos of them.

I won’t debate anyone on their feeling on the facts and the bottom line is the track was sued so people will have the right to feel the way they do. However, having known rich for over 30 years and his history as a rider, a friend, an industry insider and supporter I just wish the correct facts were presented for people to make their determination. Nobody is going to do that because they won’t take the time to read and find out before seeing the video.
 

We read threads all the time about tracks, accidents and flaggers where people continually call for change for safety. Rich did something about it and the track, which is still open will now think twice about safety. Rich did something that will have a track thinking safety first. To try to look at perfectly groomed photos of the turn in question and make a determination is laughable.  Many factors of that day and the condition need to be taken into consideration to to determine the legitimacy of a case being brought.  I’ll take Rich’s assertion over anyone in here and ESPECIALLY the industry self proclaimed bad guy KOOKSEY. The guy who tells people to burn their EKS goggles and then immediately pushes one his only sponsors, a goggle company as a replacement.  

This is stuff happens all the time to tracks everywhere.  KOOKSEY could have picked any one of this situations to make a video bit he didn’t because this time he could USE someone for clicks and people came with pitchforks. 

Now, I expect the thread keeper Nathaniel who is heavily invested in this thread to reply to this comment and tell me I’m wrong….. 5…4….3…2….

 

truck wrote:

Why the NDA and desire to keep this quiet if it's about safety and improving the overall sport? If you believe you are doing the right...

Why the NDA and desire to keep this quiet if it's about safety and improving the overall sport? If you believe you are doing the right thing, why not tell people about it? How does making a track spend more money on insurance premiums promote safety? 

Regis wrote:

  This whole thing stinks only because KOOKsey with 1/3 facts right created a click bait title and video that got everyone riled up by painting...

 

This whole thing stinks only because KOOKsey with 1/3 facts right created a click bait title and video that got everyone riled up by painting a grossly false picture about cheating, signed waivers, cross dressing and calling rich names, claiming it was a Loretta’s qualifier (because of his hate for mxsports) only to release an edited video and then a follow up calling rich out to debate “the bad guy” (to only help this views) and drag his entire family by posting photos of them.

I won’t debate anyone on their feeling on the facts and the bottom line is the track was sued so people will have the right to feel the way they do. However, having known rich for over 30 years and his history as a rider, a friend, an industry insider and supporter I just wish the correct facts were presented for people to make their determination. Nobody is going to do that because they won’t take the time to read and find out before seeing the video.
 

We read threads all the time about tracks, accidents and flaggers where people continually call for change for safety. Rich did something about it and the track, which is still open will now think twice about safety. Rich did something that will have a track thinking safety first. To try to look at perfectly groomed photos of the turn in question and make a determination is laughable.  Many factors of that day and the condition need to be taken into consideration to to determine the legitimacy of a case being brought.  I’ll take Rich’s assertion over anyone in here and ESPECIALLY the industry self proclaimed bad guy KOOKSEY. The guy who tells people to burn their EKS goggles and then immediately pushes one his only sponsors, a goggle company as a replacement.  

This is stuff happens all the time to tracks everywhere.  KOOKSEY could have picked any one of this situations to make a video bit he didn’t because this time he could USE someone for clicks and people came with pitchforks. 

Now, I expect the thread keeper Nathaniel who is heavily invested in this thread to reply to this comment and tell me I’m wrong….. 5…4….3…2….

 

truck wrote:

Why the NDA and desire to keep this quiet if it's about safety and improving the overall sport? If you believe you are doing the right...

Why the NDA and desire to keep this quiet if it's about safety and improving the overall sport? If you believe you are doing the right thing, why not tell people about it? How does making a track spend more money on insurance premiums promote safety? 

GrapeApe wrote:

The confidentiality clause would be required by the Defendants' insurers. They don't like people finding out how much they pay. In this case their client screwed...

The confidentiality clause would be required by the Defendants' insurers. They don't like people finding out how much they pay. In this case their client screwed them by blabbing to Cooksey, and once they found out he edited that out of his video.

truck wrote:

Why the NDA and desire to keep this quiet if it's about safety and improving the overall sport? If you believe you are doing the right...

Why the NDA and desire to keep this quiet if it's about safety and improving the overall sport? If you believe you are doing the right thing, why not tell people about it? How does making a track spend more money on insurance premiums promote safety? 

GrapeApe wrote:

The confidentiality clause would be required by the Defendants' insurers. They don't like people finding out how much they pay. In this case their client screwed...

The confidentiality clause would be required by the Defendants' insurers. They don't like people finding out how much they pay. In this case their client screwed them by blabbing to Cooksey, and once they found out he edited that out of his video.

Nathaniel129 wrote:

Just an FYI, you're responding to an actual lawyer...

GrapeApe wrote:

The confidentiality clause would be required by the Defendants' insurers. They don't like people finding out how much they pay. In this case their client screwed...

The confidentiality clause would be required by the Defendants' insurers. They don't like people finding out how much they pay. In this case their client screwed them by blabbing to Cooksey, and once they found out he edited that out of his video.

Nathaniel129 wrote:

Just an FYI, you're responding to an actual lawyer...

GrapeApe wrote:

He has consistently butchered legal concepts in this thread, I would be surprised to learn he's a lawyer. I seem to remember him saying he's a...

He has consistently butchered legal concepts in this thread, I would be surprised to learn he's a lawyer. I seem to remember him saying he's a doctor.

ML512 wrote:

Here is a statement from Rich Taylor regarding the LACR lawsuit... Rich Taylor - "Dear Motocross Family: Thank you so much for all the love and...

Here is a statement from Rich Taylor regarding the LACR lawsuit...

Rich Taylor - "Dear Motocross Family: Thank you so much for all the love and support you have shown us despite the widespread speculation surrounding our family and company in the last days. The hundreds of calls and texts showing your continued support, especially from friends and industry professionals, mean more than any of you will ever know. While what we are allowed to say is limited at this point, I hope to provide some clarity about the false information that has been spread. Did we bring a case on behalf of my son? Yes, I did, and trust me, this was not to benefit me or my company. It was what was right for my son under the circumstances.

I started my motocross journey at the young age of 10. Just like most of you, I had a dream of becoming a professional racer. I quickly worked my way up the ladder and turned pro when I was 16. Since that time, I have been fortunate enough to race all over the world, riding in some of the most unique, beautiful, crazy, and challenging tracks. I can genuinely say that I devoted my entire life to our sport, including racing, testing, and developing motorcycles and products for over 40 years.

More than 7 years ago, my son got seriously hurt under circumstances that were far beyond the “norm” for our sport. He fell more than a two-story drop on the backside of a highspeed bowl turn during his last moto of the day at an AMA-sanctioned Road to Mammoth race. From the fall, my son broke 28 bones, including his pelvis, back, sacrum, both arms, both legs, ankles, feet, and ribs, punctured a lung, and tore his internals, which caused severe bleeding and required blood transfusions. In the days, months, and years following the crash, my son had to undergo many surgeries and will continue to have lifelong internal issues.

After his injury, a former Daytona Supercross winner reached out to us and told us that he informed people on the very morning of the race that the backside of the turn where this occurred was very dangerous and needed to be changed (he even filed a declaration with the Court stating so under oath). I unfortunately did not know this prior to the crash or that the area where my son crashed even existed. It was not until I was on the back side of the turn tending to my son that I saw the drop and started yelling at the people around me about why something like that would even be allowed to exist on a track . An injury report from that day, which is mandated and is on record with the AMA describes the extent of the injuries my Son received and corroborates how my son fell 30 feet onto the flat ground. Had my son crashed on the big triple or in the whoops or anywhere on the actual racetrack and suRered the same type of injuries, we would not be here. Those types of crashes are part of our sport. This was not.

The attorney filed the case on my minor son’s behalf and I was named as his guardian. The Judge considered both side’s evidence/arguments and allowed my son’s case to go forward, which eventually led to it being settled without a trial. I am sure that you all know that my son only gets a portion of what the case settles for since seven years worth of attorneys’ fees, out-of-pocket expenses, along with medical bills/insurance reimbursement have to be paid.

In summary, my son raced, was severely injured, and went to the hospital. I did not attempt to suit up and
pretend to be my son. He crashed in his last moto of the day and the race results prove that. Fortunately,
today the track is not closed and I have friends who ride there every week who say it’s better than ever.
I want you all to know that we love and will always love the sport and do all that we can to make sure that we promote its continued safety for everyone, including riders. Misinformation and untruths do nothing but
tarnish our industry. On behalf of my family and I, I thank you again for your continued support and hope we all strive to make our industry better and safer.
Sincerely
RT"

Regis wrote:

Do you truly have all the facts?  Have you talked with Rich? Were you there? Have you ridden the track? Did you ride it the day...

Do you truly have all the facts? 

Have you talked with Rich? Were you there? Have you ridden the track? Did you ride it the day in question? 
you don’t have ll the facts. Neither do I.

if you are going to try to compare my bias to KOOKsey then you need to at least know what you are talking about it. Don’t compare me to him.

The only fact I have is the type of person rich is.  You don’t keep being friends with someone for 30 years if they aren’t solid people.

But-  you are 100 correct.  I should refrain from posting. 👊🏼

 

Regis wrote:

Do you truly have all the facts?  Have you talked with Rich? Were you there? Have you ridden the track? Did you ride it the day...

Do you truly have all the facts? 

Have you talked with Rich? Were you there? Have you ridden the track? Did you ride it the day in question? 
you don’t have ll the facts. Neither do I.

if you are going to try to compare my bias to KOOKsey then you need to at least know what you are talking about it. Don’t compare me to him.

The only fact I have is the type of person rich is.  You don’t keep being friends with someone for 30 years if they aren’t solid people.

But-  you are 100 correct.  I should refrain from posting. 👊🏼

 

Adam43 wrote:

Your positive feelings about Rich, which is your only argument here, is part of why this generates such disgust. Someone of his stature, experience and background...

Your positive feelings about Rich, which is your only argument here, is part of why this generates such disgust.

Someone of his stature, experience and background fully understands how these type of actions are cancerous to the sport he has spent his life in and earns his living from - and chose to do this anyway.

We expected better from him. 

ML512 wrote:

Here is a statement from Rich Taylor regarding the LACR lawsuit... Rich Taylor - "Dear Motocross Family: Thank you so much for all the love and...

Here is a statement from Rich Taylor regarding the LACR lawsuit...

Rich Taylor - "Dear Motocross Family: Thank you so much for all the love and support you have shown us despite the widespread speculation surrounding our family and company in the last days. The hundreds of calls and texts showing your continued support, especially from friends and industry professionals, mean more than any of you will ever know. While what we are allowed to say is limited at this point, I hope to provide some clarity about the false information that has been spread. Did we bring a case on behalf of my son? Yes, I did, and trust me, this was not to benefit me or my company. It was what was right for my son under the circumstances.

I started my motocross journey at the young age of 10. Just like most of you, I had a dream of becoming a professional racer. I quickly worked my way up the ladder and turned pro when I was 16. Since that time, I have been fortunate enough to race all over the world, riding in some of the most unique, beautiful, crazy, and challenging tracks. I can genuinely say that I devoted my entire life to our sport, including racing, testing, and developing motorcycles and products for over 40 years.

More than 7 years ago, my son got seriously hurt under circumstances that were far beyond the “norm” for our sport. He fell more than a two-story drop on the backside of a highspeed bowl turn during his last moto of the day at an AMA-sanctioned Road to Mammoth race. From the fall, my son broke 28 bones, including his pelvis, back, sacrum, both arms, both legs, ankles, feet, and ribs, punctured a lung, and tore his internals, which caused severe bleeding and required blood transfusions. In the days, months, and years following the crash, my son had to undergo many surgeries and will continue to have lifelong internal issues.

After his injury, a former Daytona Supercross winner reached out to us and told us that he informed people on the very morning of the race that the backside of the turn where this occurred was very dangerous and needed to be changed (he even filed a declaration with the Court stating so under oath). I unfortunately did not know this prior to the crash or that the area where my son crashed even existed. It was not until I was on the back side of the turn tending to my son that I saw the drop and started yelling at the people around me about why something like that would even be allowed to exist on a track . An injury report from that day, which is mandated and is on record with the AMA describes the extent of the injuries my Son received and corroborates how my son fell 30 feet onto the flat ground. Had my son crashed on the big triple or in the whoops or anywhere on the actual racetrack and suRered the same type of injuries, we would not be here. Those types of crashes are part of our sport. This was not.

The attorney filed the case on my minor son’s behalf and I was named as his guardian. The Judge considered both side’s evidence/arguments and allowed my son’s case to go forward, which eventually led to it being settled without a trial. I am sure that you all know that my son only gets a portion of what the case settles for since seven years worth of attorneys’ fees, out-of-pocket expenses, along with medical bills/insurance reimbursement have to be paid.

In summary, my son raced, was severely injured, and went to the hospital. I did not attempt to suit up and
pretend to be my son. He crashed in his last moto of the day and the race results prove that. Fortunately,
today the track is not closed and I have friends who ride there every week who say it’s better than ever.
I want you all to know that we love and will always love the sport and do all that we can to make sure that we promote its continued safety for everyone, including riders. Misinformation and untruths do nothing but
tarnish our industry. On behalf of my family and I, I thank you again for your continued support and hope we all strive to make our industry better and safer.
Sincerely
RT"

LungButter wrote:

@RandomUserName

Did you miss this post?

VL13 wrote:

If his name wasn’t Rich Taylor, if it were Rich “RC16” Cain perhaps it would be seen differently.    The people justifying this have me truly...

If his name wasn’t Rich Taylor, if it were Rich “RC16” Cain perhaps it would be seen differently. 
 

The people justifying this have me truly, SMDH.