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6/9/2024 11:34am

these are the races that make you an all-timer. Jett was bloodied up, sorta against the ropes, his nerves were surely getting to him, and then he goes and Chase lets him lay the wood to him. THIS was Chase's chance. Yes, he almost got it in Moto 2...but he pulled a "sexton" and tucked the front. Unfortunate to say the least. 

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these are the races that make you an all-timer. Jett was bloodied up, sorta against the ropes, his nerves were surely getting to him, and then...

these are the races that make you an all-timer. Jett was bloodied up, sorta against the ropes, his nerves were surely getting to him, and then he goes and Chase lets him lay the wood to him. THIS was Chase's chance. Yes, he almost got it in Moto 2...but he pulled a "sexton" and tucked the front. Unfortunate to say the least. 

Lucky for us we have 8 more rounds to watch.

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Sexton seems worse than Reed was at bike setup, and that's saying something. Huge fan of both by the way, but at least Reed seemed to (on a few occasions) just say "it's on me."

Also, huge speculation, but Sexton seems picky AND doesn't seem to know exactly what he's after. Whereas Reed always seemed very knowledgeable of each part of the bike and what direction to go.

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Honestly, I thought his bike looked like shit last weekend and he rode through it like a boss.  Again today, it just doesn't look like its...

Honestly, I thought his bike looked like shit last weekend and he rode through it like a boss.  Again today, it just doesn't look like its working to keep the power to the ground.

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How many years can we blame the bike for looking bad? He gave Honda a shit rep and then all of a sudden the Honda was...

How many years can we blame the bike for looking bad? He gave Honda a shit rep and then all of a sudden the Honda was great when another rider jumped on it. Now it’s the KTM that looks bad under him, see the pattern here?

His bike doesn’t look good at all to me and that is his own fault. His setup just looks shall we say twitchy in the front and dead in the rear? It doesn’t look balanced by any means and the Hondas and Justin Coopers Yamaha looked good this weekend. You saw compliance in the front and rear and not much pitch. Very controlled and steady.  But Colorado isn’t exactly Chases best style of track either. It isn’t over by any means but I am expecting a Jett and Hunter runaway at high point. Lots of tight turns and technical sections. When we open up again I expect Chase to come back into the window of challenging for wins. 

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His bike doesn’t look good at all to me and that is his own fault. His setup just looks shall we say twitchy in the front...

His bike doesn’t look good at all to me and that is his own fault. His setup just looks shall we say twitchy in the front and dead in the rear? It doesn’t look balanced by any means and the Hondas and Justin Coopers Yamaha looked good this weekend. You saw compliance in the front and rear and not much pitch. Very controlled and steady.  But Colorado isn’t exactly Chases best style of track either. It isn’t over by any means but I am expecting a Jett and Hunter runaway at high point. Lots of tight turns and technical sections. When we open up again I expect Chase to come back into the window of challenging for wins. 

I have said it multiple times before and i’ll say it again.

 

I don’t read in to how the bikes look so much because the rider can cause it to look both good and bad.

Chase ride the bike super hard with little to none finesse. Just bulldogs it around hitting each bump with full force.

No bike will look as good doing that when you compare it to Jett’s bike that has the smoothest most perfect rider on top of it that tip-toe around the track.

Chase stand with his legs a little further forward on the bike and looks kind of cramped compared to Jett, and putting all that weight on the front (with the combination of his bulldog style) don’t make it easy on the bike so he won’t allow it to work as good as it can.

 

So looking at how a bike suspension works/act i look at the riders style before i look on the bike. Sometimes it’s not the bikes fault that the suspension don’t work as good as it should. 


During the broadcast yesterday James talked about how good Vialles bike looked compared to Deegan, but he never talked about that Deegan rode around on the revlimiter like a amateur and Vialle used the right RPM’s of the engine, searching for traction and smooth lines. Riding like that will make the bike look better..

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Zycki11 wrote:
His bike doesn’t look good at all to me and that is his own fault. His setup just looks shall we say twitchy in the front...

His bike doesn’t look good at all to me and that is his own fault. His setup just looks shall we say twitchy in the front and dead in the rear? It doesn’t look balanced by any means and the Hondas and Justin Coopers Yamaha looked good this weekend. You saw compliance in the front and rear and not much pitch. Very controlled and steady.  But Colorado isn’t exactly Chases best style of track either. It isn’t over by any means but I am expecting a Jett and Hunter runaway at high point. Lots of tight turns and technical sections. When we open up again I expect Chase to come back into the window of challenging for wins. 

Cooper looked great. If he figures out the last 10 minutes or so, he'll get some wins 

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Zycki11 wrote:
His bike doesn’t look good at all to me and that is his own fault. His setup just looks shall we say twitchy in the front...

His bike doesn’t look good at all to me and that is his own fault. His setup just looks shall we say twitchy in the front and dead in the rear? It doesn’t look balanced by any means and the Hondas and Justin Coopers Yamaha looked good this weekend. You saw compliance in the front and rear and not much pitch. Very controlled and steady.  But Colorado isn’t exactly Chases best style of track either. It isn’t over by any means but I am expecting a Jett and Hunter runaway at high point. Lots of tight turns and technical sections. When we open up again I expect Chase to come back into the window of challenging for wins. 

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I have said it multiple times before and i’ll say it again.   I don’t read in to how the bikes look so much because the...

I have said it multiple times before and i’ll say it again.

 

I don’t read in to how the bikes look so much because the rider can cause it to look both good and bad.

Chase ride the bike super hard with little to none finesse. Just bulldogs it around hitting each bump with full force.

No bike will look as good doing that when you compare it to Jett’s bike that has the smoothest most perfect rider on top of it that tip-toe around the track.

Chase stand with his legs a little further forward on the bike and looks kind of cramped compared to Jett, and putting all that weight on the front (with the combination of his bulldog style) don’t make it easy on the bike so he won’t allow it to work as good as it can.

 

So looking at how a bike suspension works/act i look at the riders style before i look on the bike. Sometimes it’s not the bikes fault that the suspension don’t work as good as it should. 


During the broadcast yesterday James talked about how good Vialles bike looked compared to Deegan, but he never talked about that Deegan rode around on the revlimiter like a amateur and Vialle used the right RPM’s of the engine, searching for traction and smooth lines. Riding like that will make the bike look better..

It makes a vast difference with setup. Gap the rider rides affects the setup and the setup is geared around how the rider rides. I watch both rider and bike as well. Chases technique is very good. He may be over the front more but so is Hunter and he doesn’t hop through the bumps like Jett either. They also have basically the same setup. In the end, riders have to adjust and that’s the name of the game. 

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Zycki11 wrote:
His bike doesn’t look good at all to me and that is his own fault. His setup just looks shall we say twitchy in the front...

His bike doesn’t look good at all to me and that is his own fault. His setup just looks shall we say twitchy in the front and dead in the rear? It doesn’t look balanced by any means and the Hondas and Justin Coopers Yamaha looked good this weekend. You saw compliance in the front and rear and not much pitch. Very controlled and steady.  But Colorado isn’t exactly Chases best style of track either. It isn’t over by any means but I am expecting a Jett and Hunter runaway at high point. Lots of tight turns and technical sections. When we open up again I expect Chase to come back into the window of challenging for wins. 

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Cooper looked great. If he figures out the last 10 minutes or so, he'll get some wins 

Yeah I wonder if the pace was just a hair much still. But you have to run your best and see where the cards land. He has speed but needs to maintain like you said that last 10min of intensity which leads me to believe the pace was just a hair high to keep. He is going to get better with that confidence for sure

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Zycki11 wrote:
Yeah I wonder if the pace was just a hair much still. But you have to run your best and see where the cards land. He...

Yeah I wonder if the pace was just a hair much still. But you have to run your best and see where the cards land. He has speed but needs to maintain like you said that last 10min of intensity which leads me to believe the pace was just a hair high to keep. He is going to get better with that confidence for sure

This has been his way of riding all his pro career, and the thing we saw yesterday we have seen plenty of times in the 250 class to where the Lawrence brothers often manage to run him down late in the moto.

He either lack fitness or use it in a poor way. 

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Zycki11 wrote:
Yeah I wonder if the pace was just a hair much still. But you have to run your best and see where the cards land. He...

Yeah I wonder if the pace was just a hair much still. But you have to run your best and see where the cards land. He has speed but needs to maintain like you said that last 10min of intensity which leads me to believe the pace was just a hair high to keep. He is going to get better with that confidence for sure

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This has been his way of riding all his pro career, and the thing we saw yesterday we have seen plenty of times in the 250...

This has been his way of riding all his pro career, and the thing we saw yesterday we have seen plenty of times in the 250 class to where the Lawrence brothers often manage to run him down late in the moto.

He either lack fitness or use it in a poor way. 

I wouldn’t attribute it to fitness, but bike setup appears to be the theme from my perspective. His technique is amazing, his fitness imo should not be questioned. That leaves race craft, and setup. 

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Last week heard chase said his bike was amazing. Well he came from last to first so of course it’s going to be great. This weekend im sure it’s the worst bike ever. Chase is his own worst enemy get the bike 75% and he needs to make up the extra 25%

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Last week heard chase said his bike was amazing. Well he came from last to first so of course it’s going to be great. This weekend...

Last week heard chase said his bike was amazing. Well he came from last to first so of course it’s going to be great. This weekend im sure it’s the worst bike ever. Chase is his own worst enemy get the bike 75% and he needs to make up the extra 25%

The ole Carmichael method. Ride what ya brung and adapt. 

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I wouldn’t attribute it to fitness, but bike setup appears to be the theme from my perspective. His technique is amazing, his fitness imo should not...

I wouldn’t attribute it to fitness, but bike setup appears to be the theme from my perspective. His technique is amazing, his fitness imo should not be questioned. That leaves race craft, and setup. 

He sure sat down a lot around the lap, very old school-ish, that won’t save him much energy in the long run. I think that he would be a rider that would shine on a 350 if he were a KTM rider.

I know that it’s not the american thing to swing a leg over anything other than a rocketship but look what Cairoli did on that bike. 
 

J coop is a small guy and not all riders benefit from the extra HP a 450 have. 

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The ole Carmichael method. Ride what ya brung and adapt. 

Deegan said that in the post-race interview to when he got asked about the bike.

Something like it’s not perfect but good enough, the rest is up to me to adapt.

I can’t stand him, but i like when a rider take responsability like that. Just like Hunter did after the first moto when asked about the bad start. ”The bike is good, i need to be better”. 

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He looked tight in moto 1 it wasn't the bike

Moto 2 he got impatient. He was faster then Cooper and the Lawrence bros early in the moto. No need to push the issue at that moment. 

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Last week heard chase said his bike was amazing. Well he came from last to first so of course it’s going to be great. This weekend...

Last week heard chase said his bike was amazing. Well he came from last to first so of course it’s going to be great. This weekend im sure it’s the worst bike ever. Chase is his own worst enemy get the bike 75% and he needs to make up the extra 25%

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The ole Carmichael method. Ride what ya brung and adapt. 

I ride and race with guys that drive themselves crazy trying to find the perfect setting for every condition. Get it good and stable and it's on you. Today's bikes are amazing. In my head it's on me to ride my bike to it's potential. Stop second guessing the bike and worry about riding it.

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I heard that Chase's  dad was yelling at him after moto 1. If this is true, his dad should be in the stands instead of the pits. At the level these riders are at it is 95% mental. No need to enforce the negative. It is going to be tough for Chase. Going up against the potentially greatest rider in a generation, but that is what you get paid the big bucks for.  so keep a positive attitude and race with your brain and not your emotions.

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obviously its still early in the title chase but if he lose the title by a certain amount pts , we gotta go back & point...

obviously its still early in the title chase but if he lose the title by a certain amount pts , we gotta go back & point to this race at thunder valley right here saying this was the golden opportunity to put more pressure on ur main title rival while he was wounded & u couldn’t close the deal on it 

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IMO he lost his chance at the title today. Barring another injury from Jett. 

ayyyy u definitely right coach 😂😂 like bruh Jett is still recovering & somehow cause hes a freak of nature they can’t fuck with him , it’s def ova now with the 1 week break going into tracks Jett’s a beast on 

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I'm a big Jett fan but no one has more heart than Chase . 

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I'm a big Jett fan but no one has more heart than Chase . 

Chase definitely has a never give up mentality but I wouldn't say he has more heart than any other rider out there. Already forgot Jett at Hangtown? Not a lot of people would have finished that moto after a that nasty crash with barely any chance to get even a point.

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Lol, how is MX558 getting downvotes? He didn't say Jett didn't have heart, or any other rider for that matter, he just was acknowledging it takes *a lot* of heart to keep getting beat over and over, crash week in and week out, and to continue to get back up again and send it to the best of his ability. 

Tough crowd 🤷‍♂️

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Lol, how is MX558 getting downvotes? He didn't say Jett didn't have heart, or any other rider for that matter, he just was acknowledging it takes...

Lol, how is MX558 getting downvotes? He didn't say Jett didn't have heart, or any other rider for that matter, he just was acknowledging it takes *a lot* of heart to keep getting beat over and over, crash week in and week out, and to continue to get back up again and send it to the best of his ability. 

Tough crowd 🤷‍♂️

prolly cause he said “no one has” 😂😂 but thts to each & every 1 of u guys opinion, imo I can argue roczen has more heart than anybody just of the fact wht he went thru with tht arm injury & multiple surgeries, coming back just for coop & Eli to snag some titles from him , currently dealing with the likes of a chase & Jett & he still dedicated to race at a elite level 

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Sexton has to ride over his head to keep Jetts pace and it cost him every time and will continue to cost him all season long. Chase is blazing fast but Jett is that .01 percent faster that Chase can’t match right now. I just hope he does not loose it on a high speed section. If his dad was truly yelling and giving him shit between motos Chase should man up tell him to get the fuck out of his pits and his career. The kid is doing all he can and is faster than everyone on the planet but one person. 

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I heard that Chase's  dad was yelling at him after moto 1. If this is true, his dad should be in the stands instead of the...

I heard that Chase's  dad was yelling at him after moto 1. If this is true, his dad should be in the stands instead of the pits. At the level these riders are at it is 95% mental. No need to enforce the negative. It is going to be tough for Chase. Going up against the potentially greatest rider in a generation, but that is what you get paid the big bucks for.  so keep a positive attitude and race with your brain and not your emotions.

Yeah reading between the lines on some things people have said I'm starting to think dad being there constantly isn't helping. Seems like he tends to promote the roller coaster ride instead of helping chase stay off of it. 

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I heard that Chase's  dad was yelling at him after moto 1. If this is true, his dad should be in the stands instead of the...

I heard that Chase's  dad was yelling at him after moto 1. If this is true, his dad should be in the stands instead of the pits. At the level these riders are at it is 95% mental. No need to enforce the negative. It is going to be tough for Chase. Going up against the potentially greatest rider in a generation, but that is what you get paid the big bucks for.  so keep a positive attitude and race with your brain and not your emotions.

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Yeah reading between the lines on some things people have said I'm starting to think dad being there constantly isn't helping. Seems like he tends to...

Yeah reading between the lines on some things people have said I'm starting to think dad being there constantly isn't helping. Seems like he tends to promote the roller coaster ride instead of helping chase stay off of it. 

Wow, thats really shit. Offers perhaps a small insight to Chases world. A toxic Father figure can destroy a kids psyche.

And yes, Chase is still a kid.

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Besides the negatives, props to Chase for going all out.

Yeah he's still got some things to figure out and it's a bummer as a fan when some of these things happen, but obviously it's way more of a bummer for the man himself.

At least he's giving 100% and taking the fight to them. Hopefully he finds the way to keep it all together.

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Geez tough crowd alright. If the Lawrence bro’s weren’t there, Sexton would probably be winning nearly every race. Despite his mistakes he’s only six points behind the red plate.

Other than JCoop’s impressive rookie season so far, where’s everyone else? Positions 5-8 are all underperforming imo. Some of them look like they haven’t put in the work to go the distance. I know if I was paying their wages, I’d be asking a few questions.

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Yelling at his professional son is cheap. Sexton would be winning if some freak of mx wasnt there. 

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Geez tough crowd alright. If the Lawrence bro’s weren’t there, Sexton would probably be winning nearly every race. Despite his mistakes he’s only six points behind...

Geez tough crowd alright. If the Lawrence bro’s weren’t there, Sexton would probably be winning nearly every race. Despite his mistakes he’s only six points behind the red plate.

Other than JCoop’s impressive rookie season so far, where’s everyone else? Positions 5-8 are all underperforming imo. Some of them look like they haven’t put in the work to go the distance. I know if I was paying their wages, I’d be asking a few questions.

So like every other title Chase has won..?

Remove 2 riders and he can win.. Whistling

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Geez tough crowd alright. If the Lawrence bro’s weren’t there, Sexton would probably be winning nearly every race. Despite his mistakes he’s only six points behind...

Geez tough crowd alright. If the Lawrence bro’s weren’t there, Sexton would probably be winning nearly every race. Despite his mistakes he’s only six points behind the red plate.

Other than JCoop’s impressive rookie season so far, where’s everyone else? Positions 5-8 are all underperforming imo. Some of them look like they haven’t put in the work to go the distance. I know if I was paying their wages, I’d be asking a few questions.

J Coop is underperforming with his lack of fitness, the rest is guys with one foot in retirement that holding up spots from 250 guys to move up. 
 

 

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