Title 24 with Davey Coombs

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Did anyone else hear Davey Coombs say that Ian Harrison of KTM asked for the jumps that Jett was clearing in practice to be cut down which they ultimately were cut down and we saw what happened to Jett in the first moto. It is not the first time that KTM has asked for changes where one of there competitors have an advantage over them which is a little unfair to the other competition and manufacturers. 
 

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6/6/2024 6:51am

SO Jett knew the take off (braking bump) had been modded.  And he still attempted, even after the sight lap. Should have waited a lap or two before attempted in the race for a better feel.

Poor judgement. I want to say rookie mistake but he is not a rookie...

Hope he heals up fast!

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6/6/2024 7:04am

Roger has been getting the whoops knocked down for years as soon as one of his riders complains during practice. BS

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6/6/2024 7:09am
mgifracing wrote:

Roger has been getting the whoops knocked down for years as soon as one of his riders complains during practice. BS

Where in OP’s post did he say Roger? 

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6/6/2024 7:16am Edited Date/Time 6/6/2024 7:19am

I think Harrison’s point was that the section was unreasonably sketchy but as usual everyone on here will interpret the intent by the color of bike in their garage or the number on their hat or t-shirt. 

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6/6/2024 7:51am

Sounds like they talked to riders in the ktm and Honda camp and everyone knew what deal was. It bit Jett but seemed like they were trying to do the right thing. 

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6/6/2024 8:09am

It’s not just KTM…… so have all the other manufacturers.

Ask Ryan Villopoto about it.

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6/6/2024 10:40am
Sounds like they talked to riders in the ktm and Honda camp and everyone knew what deal was. It bit Jett but seemed like they were...

Sounds like they talked to riders in the ktm and Honda camp and everyone knew what deal was. It bit Jett but seemed like they were trying to do the right thing. 

Yeah, if I remember correctly they made a change at Pala last weekend as well - another feature that only Jett and maybe a few others were hitting. Jett still continued to hit it after being made aware of the change - I think he's out here to prove a point

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6/6/2024 10:45am Edited Date/Time 6/6/2024 10:51am

If so, Jett proved a point all right. EVERYONE talks about how gnarly these SX and MX tracks are and nobody wants to see these guys maimed or killed. The team managers should be pointing out unusually dangerous sections and it’s up to the AMA and track crew to decide if it’s legitimate. Somebody has to do it and the privateers don’t have the pull to affect change. But instead let’s blame a man (Roger) who has spent a lifetime in the sport and has done more for it then most of us combined.

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6/6/2024 10:47am Edited Date/Time 6/6/2024 10:49am

You are only telling half of the story 

DC and crew went to Honda to discuss the section and the decision was made to cut them down due to safety concerns as the section was never meant to be doubled. Honda knew, Hunter knew, Jett knew, Dazzy knew …. everyone knew the changes were made. Jett made a mistake because he still thought he could do it after the sighting lap… he thought wrong! 

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6/6/2024 10:50am
EricZ38 wrote:
If so, Jett proved a point all right. EVERYONE talks about how gnarly these SX and MX tracks are and nobody wants to see these guys...

If so, Jett proved a point all right. EVERYONE talks about how gnarly these SX and MX tracks are and nobody wants to see these guys maimed or killed. The team managers should be pointing out unusually dangerous sections and it’s up to the AMA and track crew to decide if it’s legitimate. Somebody has to do it and the privateers don’t have the pull to affect change. But instead let’s blame a man (Roger) who has spent a lifetime in the sport and has done more for it then most of us combined.

I see where you are coming from, and I don't necessarily disagree... but they aren't forcing you to hit the jumps either.

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6/6/2024 10:57am

I guess I don't understand the point of removing a section because 1 or 2 guys are able to do something nobody else is doing.  Kinda like Stewart at Daytona with the prejump over the wall jump.  If you're able to do something different that gives you a competitive advantage, why should it be removed?  That's one thing about modern racing I'm not a fan of...  too much "flow" where everyone can do everything.  There is no separation of skill.  

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6/6/2024 11:48am
Whymee wrote:
SO Jett knew the take off (braking bump) had been modded.  And he still attempted, even after the sight lap. Should have waited a lap or...

SO Jett knew the take off (braking bump) had been modded.  And he still attempted, even after the sight lap. Should have waited a lap or two before attempted in the race for a better feel.

Poor judgement. I want to say rookie mistake but he is not a rookie...

Hope he heals up fast!

Looking from the other angle, he knew what he was dealing with, and thought he might bulldog it through.

It could have been a wow moment, but ended in oh shit.

Either way the kids got bigger balls than some others out there.

6/6/2024 12:33pm
mgifracing wrote:

Roger has been getting the whoops knocked down for years as soon as one of his riders complains during practice. BS

Where in OP’s post did he say Roger? 

No different than Ian, Ktm always lobbying for a track change. granted he didn't mention Rog but roger used to do this all of the time.

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6/6/2024 1:00pm
EricZ38 wrote:
If so, Jett proved a point all right. EVERYONE talks about how gnarly these SX and MX tracks are and nobody wants to see these guys...

If so, Jett proved a point all right. EVERYONE talks about how gnarly these SX and MX tracks are and nobody wants to see these guys maimed or killed. The team managers should be pointing out unusually dangerous sections and it’s up to the AMA and track crew to decide if it’s legitimate. Somebody has to do it and the privateers don’t have the pull to affect change. But instead let’s blame a man (Roger) who has spent a lifetime in the sport and has done more for it then most of us combined.

dhagman wrote:

I see where you are coming from, and I don't necessarily disagree... but they aren't forcing you to hit the jumps either.

That's where I see so many different opinions. The problem (especially at the local level) is you have so many levels of riders that when a promoter builds a track he has to know it's monkey see, monkey do. An A riders nails a jump and some hotshot C rider decides he can do it and the end result isn't great.

At the pro level it almost forces a rider to do that sketchy section because he will lose if he doesn't and his paycheck depends on it. This is where the ones in charge have to step in and make the needed change. I feel that is what happened.

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6/6/2024 2:11pm

I only have one question: Were Sexton and AP doing, or trying to do, the section before it was cut down? 
If they were, then the team can voice their concerns, but if they weren’t, then Harrison has no right to ask for it to modified.

None of that changes the fact that Jett straight up made a mistake and paid the price.

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6/6/2024 4:23pm Edited Date/Time 6/6/2024 4:23pm
CPR wrote:
I only have one question: Were Sexton and AP doing, or trying to do, the section before it was cut down?  If they were, then the...

I only have one question: Were Sexton and AP doing, or trying to do, the section before it was cut down? 
If they were, then the team can voice their concerns, but if they weren’t, then Harrison has no right to ask for it to modified.

None of that changes the fact that Jett straight up made a mistake and paid the price.

This is my exact thoughts regarding the changes, KTM definitely weren’t going to the track builders because they were concerned about Jett’s safety and they knew there riders weren’t jumping it so why did they ask for it to be changed? 

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