Cooper Webb..Not home schooled?

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I was watching a Catching up with Cooper Webb episode on TWMX from the world minis and I was surprised as all hell to hear the kid still goes to school. My biggest problem with amateur mx is all the home schooling and how all the parents think it's not possible to be really competitive and still let the kid have a regular childhood. Cooper is only 14 and if he can go to school and still beat AC92 straight up it's obviously still possible for a kid to go to school and be competitive at the top levels of the sport.
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4mxonly 4/20/2010 9:38am
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That is awesome, had no idea Cooper was not home schooled. Good for him and his family, hopefully people will take notice and think twice about the home school stigma.
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Cooper Mom is a teacher..So that helps with getting him out of school, which is a problem for some kids..Our 1st year qual for LL ..I had the school human recourse officer pay me a visit...So i pulled him and homeschooled for a cpl of yrs...Now he's back in regular school..his choice not mine...
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kawa38 wrote:
Cooper Mom is a teacher..So that helps with getting him out of school, which is a problem for some kids..Our 1st year qual for LL ..I...
Cooper Mom is a teacher..So that helps with getting him out of school, which is a problem for some kids..Our 1st year qual for LL ..I had the school human recourse officer pay me a visit...So i pulled him and homeschooled for a cpl of yrs...Now he's back in regular school..his choice not mine...
And it looks like a good "choose".Wink
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kawirider819 4/20/2010 10:07am
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Nick Paluzzi is another kid that is in public school, pretty dang fast as well.
DanDunes818 4/20/2010 10:15am
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All i know is the fastest Mini bike racer I've ever seen past and present was Eric Kehoe and he went and graduated from public school. Eric graduated from Kennedy high is the san fenando valley and the only reason I know that is he and my brother were good friends and in the same class at the same school. Eric was probably one of ,if not the most dominant Mini Bike racers of all time and if he could do it anybody can.
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loftyair 4/20/2010 10:34am
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Public school is sub-par. You should know that. I went to a good 'public' school system. Yeah, you can be 'book-smart', but if you ever hire a kid fresh out of HS for you business, you will be like WTF, didn't you learn anything in school. While the whole time this kid tries to tell you how you should run your biz. I agree that 'home-school' is a joke for some, the joke is the 'school' part, they just mean 'home' most the time. Most people that dont like the home school idea were brought up to think a HS diploma actually meant something, and that being like all the other sheople was the right way to do it. Most of the very GREATEST thinkers of all time dropped out of that restraining system. HS is for the average, otherwise you are 'waiting' for the average, or trying to keep up with the 'average', both are detrimental. Home school can be the best thing for someone, but not for everyone. But the 'school' part has to be there. Think about it, being 'home-schooled' by Einstein, or 'public' schooled by the girls basketball coach? What matters is education, not how you go about it. It can be lacking in both methods, but you cannot 'excel' much in a public method. Now college is a bit of a mix of both, which is probably best.
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DanDunes818 4/20/2010 10:42am
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loftyair wrote:
Public school is sub-par. You should know that. I went to a good 'public' school system. Yeah, you can be 'book-smart', but if you ever hire...
Public school is sub-par. You should know that. I went to a good 'public' school system. Yeah, you can be 'book-smart', but if you ever hire a kid fresh out of HS for you business, you will be like WTF, didn't you learn anything in school. While the whole time this kid tries to tell you how you should run your biz. I agree that 'home-school' is a joke for some, the joke is the 'school' part, they just mean 'home' most the time. Most people that dont like the home school idea were brought up to think a HS diploma actually meant something, and that being like all the other sheople was the right way to do it. Most of the very GREATEST thinkers of all time dropped out of that restraining system. HS is for the average, otherwise you are 'waiting' for the average, or trying to keep up with the 'average', both are detrimental. Home school can be the best thing for someone, but not for everyone. But the 'school' part has to be there. Think about it, being 'home-schooled' by Einstein, or 'public' schooled by the girls basketball coach? What matters is education, not how you go about it. It can be lacking in both methods, but you cannot 'excel' much in a public method. Now college is a bit of a mix of both, which is probably best.
I don't think kids should go to public school just for the schooling. The main reason I think a kid should go to a regular school and not be home schooled is to have that balance between real life and mx life. Some of these kids have no childhood and IMO going to school gives them a sense of a normal childhood. Social skill are huge for life after MX and I truly believe being home schooled doesn't do any favors for a kids social skills.
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loftyair wrote:
Public school is sub-par. You should know that. I went to a good 'public' school system. Yeah, you can be 'book-smart', but if you ever hire...
Public school is sub-par. You should know that. I went to a good 'public' school system. Yeah, you can be 'book-smart', but if you ever hire a kid fresh out of HS for you business, you will be like WTF, didn't you learn anything in school. While the whole time this kid tries to tell you how you should run your biz. I agree that 'home-school' is a joke for some, the joke is the 'school' part, they just mean 'home' most the time. Most people that dont like the home school idea were brought up to think a HS diploma actually meant something, and that being like all the other sheople was the right way to do it. Most of the very GREATEST thinkers of all time dropped out of that restraining system. HS is for the average, otherwise you are 'waiting' for the average, or trying to keep up with the 'average', both are detrimental. Home school can be the best thing for someone, but not for everyone. But the 'school' part has to be there. Think about it, being 'home-schooled' by Einstein, or 'public' schooled by the girls basketball coach? What matters is education, not how you go about it. It can be lacking in both methods, but you cannot 'excel' much in a public method. Now college is a bit of a mix of both, which is probably best.
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I don't think kids should go to public school just for the schooling. The main reason I think a kid should go to a regular school...
I don't think kids should go to public school just for the schooling. The main reason I think a kid should go to a regular school and not be home schooled is to have that balance between real life and mx life. Some of these kids have no childhood and IMO going to school gives them a sense of a normal childhood. Social skill are huge for life after MX and I truly believe being home schooled doesn't do any favors for a kids social skills.
X2 on the social skills Home schoolers that I have dealt with are on the weird side. But The MX home school kids still have inter action at the track. I see you point on the balance. They need it, after all they are kids!
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loftyair 4/20/2010 10:53am
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DanDunes818 wrote:
I don't think kids should go to public school just for the schooling. The main reason I think a kid should go to a regular school...
I don't think kids should go to public school just for the schooling. The main reason I think a kid should go to a regular school and not be home schooled is to have that balance between real life and mx life. Some of these kids have no childhood and IMO going to school gives them a sense of a normal childhood. Social skill are huge for life after MX and I truly believe being home schooled doesn't do any favors for a kids social skills.
I agree with you for the most part. Although an introvert will be that way, and someone that is outgoing will be that way too. Being sheltered is a problem which seems to go along with home-schooling, but it's the parents fault on that one. My kids are home-schooled by my wife who happens to have been a teacher for 20yrs now. They(all 5) have their own personalities, some more out-going than the others. But they have more of a social life than I care for them to have. Plus, most the shit taught at pub school is so sensored it isn't fact anymore. But in general, you are right about what you say. 'Home-schooled' is more of a label now, meaning no social skills, and maybe not any education too. I believe in Jesus Christ, so I think pub school blew it by taking God out, therefore we took ourselves out too. I know alot of people agree and disagree. The people that agree can't do it because they got the career going or whatever, which is their choice. HE will take care of the children!
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SteveS 4/20/2010 11:45am
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kawa38 wrote:
Cooper Mom is a teacher..So that helps with getting him out of school, which is a problem for some kids..Our 1st year qual for LL ..I...
Cooper Mom is a teacher..So that helps with getting him out of school, which is a problem for some kids..Our 1st year qual for LL ..I had the school human recourse officer pay me a visit...So i pulled him and homeschooled for a cpl of yrs...Now he's back in regular school..his choice not mine...
The problem with keeping the kids in public school nowadays is the schools themselves.

When I was a kid, I was on a swim team that competed at meets all over the country all year round. We'd pretty habitually take off Friday and maybe even Thursday for traveling. Never had any problem getting assignments ahead of time, turning in work when we got back, taking tests early or late, etc. Nowadays they won't let you do things like that and if you miss 5 days a semester you don't pass to the next grade.

If kids could do their traveling and not run afoul of the school, then they would stay in school. It's the schools that are forcing their hand.
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loftyair wrote:
Public school is sub-par. You should know that. I went to a good 'public' school system. Yeah, you can be 'book-smart', but if you ever hire...
Public school is sub-par. You should know that. I went to a good 'public' school system. Yeah, you can be 'book-smart', but if you ever hire a kid fresh out of HS for you business, you will be like WTF, didn't you learn anything in school. While the whole time this kid tries to tell you how you should run your biz. I agree that 'home-school' is a joke for some, the joke is the 'school' part, they just mean 'home' most the time. Most people that dont like the home school idea were brought up to think a HS diploma actually meant something, and that being like all the other sheople was the right way to do it. Most of the very GREATEST thinkers of all time dropped out of that restraining system. HS is for the average, otherwise you are 'waiting' for the average, or trying to keep up with the 'average', both are detrimental. Home school can be the best thing for someone, but not for everyone. But the 'school' part has to be there. Think about it, being 'home-schooled' by Einstein, or 'public' schooled by the girls basketball coach? What matters is education, not how you go about it. It can be lacking in both methods, but you cannot 'excel' much in a public method. Now college is a bit of a mix of both, which is probably best.
"Yeah, you can be 'book smart"............ummmm, that's what school is for.

I don't think that the schools are the problem in most cases it's that the kids don't take full advantage of the opportunities that are available to them. That's just MHO.


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Yaya 4/20/2010 11:53am
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This kid has the talent, and glad he is still in regular school. Also, Andrew Short graduated from a regular high-school too.
SlowOldGuy 4/20/2010 12:00pm
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I think it is awesome that Cooper is still in school and doing very well from what I am told. He is in a unique situation that some do not have. His school is very supportive and allows him to miss quite a bit more school than most can get away with. That being said, his parents value education and it seems to be a perfect balance. Some other things people don't know about Cooper is that he also plays basketball and soccer. He is a very well rounded kid!
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Coop is a super cool kid, we rode with him a bunch this winter @ Crystal Coast, he was there 3 or 4 days a week after school. One of the nicest kids i've met. no typical "Fast kid" attitude. and he is fast!!!!
DanDunes818 4/20/2010 12:14pm
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SlowOldGuy wrote:
I think it is awesome that Cooper is still in school and doing very well from what I am told. He is in a unique situation...
I think it is awesome that Cooper is still in school and doing very well from what I am told. He is in a unique situation that some do not have. His school is very supportive and allows him to miss quite a bit more school than most can get away with. That being said, his parents value education and it seems to be a perfect balance. Some other things people don't know about Cooper is that he also plays basketball and soccer. He is a very well rounded kid!
Yeah I noticed that from the interview that he played high school sports as well. That's incredible really when you look at how hard he must work to be at the level he's at in MX. Where does this kid find the time for all that? I think playing team sports is huge in life. When I first joined the real life work force I had a real hard time being a team player. Looking back now I really think it had allot to do with my dad never getting me into any kind of team sports. Someone like Cooper I think has a huge advantage over most MX prodigies for life after SX/MX IMO.
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Going to regular/daily public school is teaching them structure. You have to be in your class at this time, you have this paper due, you have a test you should be ready for later in the day etc. Problem is that some school systems you have attend a mandatory amount of time or you fail. Well, with the schedules of all the major Amateur nationals, you are done and some parents choose home schooling.
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DanDunes818 wrote:
I was watching a Catching up with Cooper Webb episode on TWMX from the world minis and I was surprised as all hell to hear the...
I was watching a Catching up with Cooper Webb episode on TWMX from the world minis and I was surprised as all hell to hear the kid still goes to school. My biggest problem with amateur mx is all the home schooling and how all the parents think it's not possible to be really competitive and still let the kid have a regular childhood. Cooper is only 14 and if he can go to school and still beat AC92 straight up it's obviously still possible for a kid to go to school and be competitive at the top levels of the sport.
why does it bother you though? i knew some kids that were hs'd but not for racing, more for anti government shit and they were smart, very smart. parents were fuckups but the kids were sharp. Smile

but seriously...why do you care about homeschooled racers? they aren't yer kids. i mean this statement "My biggest problem with amateur mx" cracks me up, like you have a stake in it....my apologies if you do. what are they by chance if you do?

keep losing sleep over it i suppose....

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Jeremy Mcgrath graduated from regular high school also.
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DanDunes818 wrote:
I was watching a Catching up with Cooper Webb episode on TWMX from the world minis and I was surprised as all hell to hear the...
I was watching a Catching up with Cooper Webb episode on TWMX from the world minis and I was surprised as all hell to hear the kid still goes to school. My biggest problem with amateur mx is all the home schooling and how all the parents think it's not possible to be really competitive and still let the kid have a regular childhood. Cooper is only 14 and if he can go to school and still beat AC92 straight up it's obviously still possible for a kid to go to school and be competitive at the top levels of the sport.
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why does it bother you though? i knew some kids that were hs'd but not for racing, more for anti government shit and they were smart...
why does it bother you though? i knew some kids that were hs'd but not for racing, more for anti government shit and they were smart, very smart. parents were fuckups but the kids were sharp. Smile

but seriously...why do you care about homeschooled racers? they aren't yer kids. i mean this statement "My biggest problem with amateur mx" cracks me up, like you have a stake in it....my apologies if you do. what are they by chance if you do?

keep losing sleep over it i suppose....
I think that history has shown that government will regulate when an organization neglects to regulate or act within a child's best interest.

First, nothing can be sadder than a kid in a chair, but each year we see it. Now, Whats the back-up plan? They've been home schooled by untrained people (mom and dad).

Not every rider is a big money pro, and when mom and dad have remortgaged all they can and Wonderboy can't seem to make the night event, he'll be just another 'tard without a place for him in the world.

Many champs went to school.
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Another super fast kid that goes to regular scholl is Jordan Bailey. This kid has won 27 National titles and his dad makes sure that he does not miss school. They will miss Friday practices sometimes to ensure he is in school. You have to applaud parents like this as they prepare their kids for life if MX does not work out.
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The problem with keeping the kids in public school nowadays is the schools themselves. When I was a kid, I was on a swim team that...
The problem with keeping the kids in public school nowadays is the schools themselves.

When I was a kid, I was on a swim team that competed at meets all over the country all year round. We'd pretty habitually take off Friday and maybe even Thursday for traveling. Never had any problem getting assignments ahead of time, turning in work when we got back, taking tests early or late, etc. Nowadays they won't let you do things like that and if you miss 5 days a semester you don't pass to the next grade.

If kids could do their traveling and not run afoul of the school, then they would stay in school. It's the schools that are forcing their hand.
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iudi2006 wrote:
Jeremy Mcgrath graduated from regular high school also.
That pretty much says enough haha.
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his mom is a p.e teacher at his school, he told me his mom wont let him get homeschooled since she works for his county schools......
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kawa38 wrote:
Cooper Mom is a teacher..So that helps with getting him out of school, which is a problem for some kids..Our 1st year qual for LL ..I...
Cooper Mom is a teacher..So that helps with getting him out of school, which is a problem for some kids..Our 1st year qual for LL ..I had the school human recourse officer pay me a visit...So i pulled him and homeschooled for a cpl of yrs...Now he's back in regular school..his choice not mine...
Uh, not to sound like a prude, but you're the parent. You're the one who decides if he gets public schooled or home schooled.
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The worse part I'd imagine is the lack of interaction through your childhood, sure you meet people at races, but not the same as the playground. Seems to have a knock on effect down the road in how situations get handled, some of the top pros seem immature when the heat is on.

Reed was another one that went to school.
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loftyair 4/22/2010 9:02am
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I am going to make all my kids go to public school every other year, then what you gonna say? haha To each his own, whatever works. As long as it DOES work. Problem with both is that there are so many lies that are taught as truths. Public school History is a joke. Well its not the whole truth anyway. And being 'home-schooled' by the branch davidians wouldn't be solid either. That's why so many 'diploma holders' are so stupid, notice that?
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stellarmx71 wrote:
Another super fast kid that goes to regular scholl is Jordan Bailey. This kid has won 27 National titles and his dad makes sure that he...
Another super fast kid that goes to regular scholl is Jordan Bailey. This kid has won 27 National titles and his dad makes sure that he does not miss school. They will miss Friday practices sometimes to ensure he is in school. You have to applaud parents like this as they prepare their kids for life if MX does not work out.
I applaud Jordan for balancing school with his success as a racer. He is definitely one of the top kids his age out there. To say his dad "makes sure he doesn't miss school", is not quite true. The kid has been in Texas, Mini Os and at Vegas a bunch of years That is at least 17 days of school missed unless one of the weeks was spring break.

That is one of the problems with the sport. If you accept sponsorship, you are forced to miss at least at least three weeks of school and probably more to meet your obligations.

Matt was missing 20 to 30 days of school a year with the principle's blessing. They gave us the work and he completed it all, usually on the way out. Middle school was tougher, we had the social worker call last year because he missed the first week of school for LLs. Another call for missing Mon-Wed. for Mini Os. Next year in high school it will only be tougher.
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stellarmx71 4/22/2010 11:24am
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Jordan was on Spring Break for the Texas rounds, Loretta's is over Summer, and Mini O's is over Thanksgiving break. They take school very seriously.
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Ozzy 4/23/2010 8:49am
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Watched "Coop" up at the World Mini.
Very impressive!
Whatever they're doing it's working it seems to me.
Never got around to meeting him & his family, but between him
& the "Mighty AC" there's plenty of FAST coming soon!...............
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