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Huckster 3/23/2010 12:02pm
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its not just Mr. Novack from Etown.
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mxrose3 3/23/2010 12:37pm
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Well, if Mr Novak is one of them, then at least the top two riders should be disqualified. Everybody should be moved up a spot IMO.
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Devil1nNj 3/23/2010 12:50pm
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Huckster wrote:
I heard your son rode well as did Renzland.
yeah if I read the results right, it looks like Renzland swept all his classes. Friend of mine used to coach him, I spoke with him yesterday, and he said that he set him up with a program that is working really well for him. We're all from the same town.

I saw Weller in the pic's as well, but no where in the results. Looks like only Saturday's results are up so far.

If anyone is looking for a good motocross school for them or their kids check out Marks program. He's doing schools at a few different tracks public and private. He's a real good guy.

Mark Wundrack Motocross Schools
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#!/mark.w.schools?ref=ts
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Huckster 3/23/2010 1:28pm
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The results are for those who chose to qualify for LL. Weller and Robbie Marshall were there but I do not think either are going to LL. They are riding on a team put together by the Jammer and are doing most of the nationals.

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Ned 3/23/2010 1:51pm
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Huckster wrote:
I heard your son rode well as did Renzland.
Devil1nNj wrote:
yeah if I read the results right, it looks like Renzland swept all his classes. Friend of mine used to coach him, I spoke with him...
yeah if I read the results right, it looks like Renzland swept all his classes. Friend of mine used to coach him, I spoke with him yesterday, and he said that he set him up with a program that is working really well for him. We're all from the same town.

I saw Weller in the pic's as well, but no where in the results. Looks like only Saturday's results are up so far.

If anyone is looking for a good motocross school for them or their kids check out Marks program. He's doing schools at a few different tracks public and private. He's a real good guy.

Mark Wundrack Motocross Schools
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#!/mark.w.schools?ref=ts
I am Luke's current trainer, and although Luke did work with Mark 3 years ago, the program I have had him on is much different and has shown much more results. I don't believe Mark deserves the credit in Luke's success when I have been training him for the past 2 years.
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knowitalloveragainnovice 3/23/2010 1:57pm
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Huckster wrote:
I heard your son rode well as did Renzland.
Devil1nNj wrote:
yeah if I read the results right, it looks like Renzland swept all his classes. Friend of mine used to coach him, I spoke with him...
yeah if I read the results right, it looks like Renzland swept all his classes. Friend of mine used to coach him, I spoke with him yesterday, and he said that he set him up with a program that is working really well for him. We're all from the same town.

I saw Weller in the pic's as well, but no where in the results. Looks like only Saturday's results are up so far.

If anyone is looking for a good motocross school for them or their kids check out Marks program. He's doing schools at a few different tracks public and private. He's a real good guy.

Mark Wundrack Motocross Schools
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#!/mark.w.schools?ref=ts
Ned wrote:
I am Luke's current trainer, and although Luke did work with Mark [u]3 years ago[/u], the program I have had him on is much different and...
I am Luke's current trainer, and although Luke did work with Mark 3 years ago, the program I have had him on is much different and has shown much more results. I don't believe Mark deserves the credit in Luke's success when I have been training him for the past 2 years.
Popcorn time.....
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I'm in for the popcorn!

B and C class at amatuer nationals promote sandbagging. Same issues year after year.

I guess it's a neccesary evil to make the game work, and I'd probably do the same thing if I had the foresight to get something started like we have at Loretta's.

It would be difficult for MX Sports to catch all the offenders without the help of the people that see it. One easy email should do the trick.

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bobby397 3/23/2010 3:51pm
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I'm in for the popcorn! B and C class at amatuer nationals promote sandbagging. Same issues year after year. I guess it's a neccesary evil to...
I'm in for the popcorn!

B and C class at amatuer nationals promote sandbagging. Same issues year after year.

I guess it's a neccesary evil to make the game work, and I'd probably do the same thing if I had the foresight to get something started like we have at Loretta's.

It would be difficult for MX Sports to catch all the offenders without the help of the people that see it. One easy email should do the trick.

only going to get worse with the new rules...... prosport class will be a treat to watch in two more years
massholeyankeekiller 3/23/2010 5:39pm
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i think mr novack is a real good guy and i have seen him ride personally first hand and he is definitly a B level caliber rider. all of you idiots saying he should be DQ ed will see at the regional that there is gonna be some guy 30 seconds ahead and mr novack will probably be floundering around barely in the top 7 so save the protesting for someone who is worth it NOT MR NOVACK!!!!!!
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bobby397 3/23/2010 5:44pm
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rules are rules, i believe he must send a letter to both the ama and mx sports for approval.
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DanDunes818 3/23/2010 5:44pm
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massholeyankeekiller wrote:
i think mr novack is a real good guy and i have seen him ride personally first hand and he is definitly a B level caliber...
i think mr novack is a real good guy and i have seen him ride personally first hand and he is definitly a B level caliber rider. all of you idiots saying he should be DQ ed will see at the regional that there is gonna be some guy 30 seconds ahead and mr novack will probably be floundering around barely in the top 7 so save the protesting for someone who is worth it NOT MR NOVACK!!!!!!
Nobody is saying he's not a nice guy. There's just proof he's ridden A class and that means he can't race the B/C class at LL's. It's not like they're making this stuff up. They posted links to results where he was racing the A class..I don't think it's personal.
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Huckster 3/23/2010 6:20pm
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massholeyankeekiller wrote:
i think mr novack is a real good guy and i have seen him ride personally first hand and he is definitly a B level caliber...
i think mr novack is a real good guy and i have seen him ride personally first hand and he is definitly a B level caliber rider. all of you idiots saying he should be DQ ed will see at the regional that there is gonna be some guy 30 seconds ahead and mr novack will probably be floundering around barely in the top 7 so save the protesting for someone who is worth it NOT MR NOVACK!!!!!!
Come on you can do better than that. Kevin Cozzad is a man of the lord and very nice guy, but he was a sandbagger just like the top 2 guys from the englishtown qualifier.
massholeyankeekiller 3/23/2010 6:28pm
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if you idiots would read all the results from the link the 30+exp which is really the b class at the vet national.....not a money class.....the classes were 30+am (novice), 30+exp(amateur), and 30+pro(expert) ..quit whining and twist the throttle......braaap
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mxmat813 3/23/2010 6:32pm
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massholeyankeekiller wrote:
if you idiots would read all the results from the link the 30+exp which is really the b class at the vet national.....not a money class.....the...
if you idiots would read all the results from the link the 30+exp which is really the b class at the vet national.....not a money class.....the classes were 30+am (novice), 30+exp(amateur), and 30+pro(expert) ..quit whining and twist the throttle......braaap
I'm sure it'll be obvious at the regional who is sandbagging.
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knowitalloveragainnovice 3/23/2010 6:33pm
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afuggenamazing


YOUTH AMATEUR national championships. And the vet's take it so serious they will argue the right to cheat and race the beginner class?
massholeyankeekiller 3/23/2010 6:48pm
3/23/2010 6:48pm
yes it will be obvious because a real sandbagger wins all three motos in every class they enter ive been doing lorettas for 10 years now top b riders run the same lap times as top a riders at the national
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jbomx363 3/23/2010 6:57pm
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massholeyankeekiller wrote:
if you idiots would read all the results from the link the 30+exp which is really the b class at the vet national.....not a money class.....the...
if you idiots would read all the results from the link the 30+exp which is really the b class at the vet national.....not a money class.....the classes were 30+am (novice), 30+exp(amateur), and 30+pro(expert) ..quit whining and twist the throttle......braaap
I only see one idiot in this thread.
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jndmx 3/23/2010 7:01pm
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Once you race in the Expert class you are no longer a B/C rider......period.

The person doing this is doing it because he feels it is unfair for a regular Amateur Vet rider to have to race against guys that used to be Pro's and guys that are basically full factory riders.

That doesn't change my opinon on it being wrong.

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massholeyankeekiller wrote:
yes it will be obvious because a real sandbagger wins all three motos in every class they enter ive been doing lorettas for 10 years now...
yes it will be obvious because a real sandbagger wins all three motos in every class they enter ive been doing lorettas for 10 years now top b riders run the same lap times as top a riders at the national
thats a nice name pal!
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jndmx 3/23/2010 7:21pm
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you people are all idiots on here "full factory rider" come on buddy
Stop and see Doug Dubach in the pits at LL's....if the deal he has isn't factory it's damn close.

Doesn't change the fact that sandbagging the Vet B/C when you are an A rider is wrong.
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What about the A and A/pro sport classes. Is Pro sport for riders that have made AMA pro points of can any A ride do any of the 4 classes?
massholeyankeekiller 3/23/2010 7:52pm
3/23/2010 7:52pm Edited Date/Time 3/23/2010 7:52pm
and who is the older gentleman who came in 2nd at etown he is 50+ doesnt he have too many years experience racing dirtbikes to race the 30+ class???
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jndmx 3/23/2010 7:52pm
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massholeyankeekiller wrote:
mr dubach mr novack big difference pal
No kidding idiot......One of them races the class he is supposed to.
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jndmx 3/23/2010 7:59pm
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massholeyankeekiller wrote:
you sound like a real asshole pal go to the national and see everyone is a sandbagger
Whatever......
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tell ya what guys. if you don't want to look like a "BAD" guy, send me the name of the A rider trying to sneak through, I will be more then happy to take care of the proper process to stop that crap.

a couple years ago there was a rash of this stuff. it just makes the whole deal suck, so don't be bashful.

its why there is a rule book and structure.
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Huckster 3/24/2010 4:02am
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Wardy how does it work if you were a factory Yamaha quad racer? Can you race bikes in the B class?

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