The case for Jett beating 72 wins..........

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I do not think he will break MC's record let alone approach it. Even if he does, he will never be the King. MC will always be the greatest SX racer ever. 

With that being said I was looking at advantages that Jett has over MC right now. 

1) Age: MC won his first SX race at 21 years and 2 months old. Jett won his first at 20 years 5 months. This will give Jett one more season if they retire at the same age.

2) Early wins: MC didn't win his 1st race until his 8th attempt; he raced 5 east coast rounds in 92 before going full time the next year. Jett won the first SX he entered. 

3) Competition: Jett is about to see an extremely thinned out field. When the 30 year olds decide to hang up the boots there will be a huge vacuum of top guys.

 

I could make a list 3 times as long on why he won't get the record, but I was just looking at reasons he could. I'm sure I'll get a million downvotes from people who refuse to read but it is what it is. 

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You lost me at "Even if he does, he will never be the King"

So if Jett won the next 100 SX races in a row Mc would still be king?

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3/12/2024 8:38am Edited Date/Time 3/12/2024 8:39am
kxking wrote:
You lost me at "Even if he does, he will never be the King" So if Jett won the next 100 SX races in a row...

You lost me at "Even if he does, he will never be the King"

So if Jett won the next 100 SX races in a row Mc would still be king?

Dude if the Lord Jesus came back and decided to ride dirtbikes 95% of this website would still call MC the king. It's no use. We had a 10 pager on this topic courtesy of yours truly and it was more of the same.

You'll never dethrone someone's hero.

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kxking wrote:
You lost me at "Even if he does, he will never be the King" So if Jett won the next 100 SX races in a row...

You lost me at "Even if he does, he will never be the King"

So if Jett won the next 100 SX races in a row Mc would still be king?

Yep, because Jeremy is my generation, so get off my damn lawn you're getting in the way of me yelling at clouds. 

 

Note: Full disclosure, I mostly put that there to combat the people who would assume I was a Jett Fanboy and anointing him. 

Second Note: Looks like my strategy backfired. 

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kxking wrote:
You lost me at "Even if he does, he will never be the King" So if Jett won the next 100 SX races in a row...

You lost me at "Even if he does, he will never be the King"

So if Jett won the next 100 SX races in a row Mc would still be king?

McG194 wrote:
Yep, because Jeremy is my generation, so get off my damn lawn you're getting in the way of me yelling at clouds.    Note: Full disclosure...

Yep, because Jeremy is my generation, so get off my damn lawn you're getting in the way of me yelling at clouds. 

 

Note: Full disclosure, I mostly put that there to combat the people who would assume I was a Jett Fanboy and anointing him. 

Second Note: Looks like my strategy backfired. 

Well played. 

Laughing

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The only reason Jett is being looked at as "the next guy" is because of #3 via #1. That's the biggest one. He's 10 years younger than his competition and they're on their way out...all of them. Justin Cooper just started in 450 and he's already 27. Sexton is the closest in speed and age but still 4 years older..

M.Stewart: 31
Tomac: 31
Roczen: 30 end of April
Plessinger: 28
Webb: 28
Cooper: 27
Sexton: 24

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OwenJakes wrote:
Dude if the Lord Jesus came back and decided to ride dirtbikes 95% of this website would still call MC the king. It's no use. We...

Dude if the Lord Jesus came back and decided to ride dirtbikes 95% of this website would still call MC the king. It's no use. We had a 10 pager on this topic courtesy of yours truly and it was more of the same.

You'll never dethrone someone's hero.

Oh....you're THAT guy.   Laughing

 

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If Jett beats McGrath's record, I would consider him King of SX. McGrath changed the way racers raced SX and Jett is doing the same with his style of riding.  

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3/12/2024 9:18am

If Jett doesn’t pass MC’s record it’s only because he got bored of winning and retires early with shit tons of money. 
 

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3/12/2024 9:57am
kxking wrote:
You lost me at "Even if he does, he will never be the King" So if Jett won the next 100 SX races in a row...

You lost me at "Even if he does, he will never be the King"

So if Jett won the next 100 SX races in a row Mc would still be king?

OwenJakes wrote:
Dude if the Lord Jesus came back and decided to ride dirtbikes 95% of this website would still call MC the king. It's no use. We...

Dude if the Lord Jesus came back and decided to ride dirtbikes 95% of this website would still call MC the king. It's no use. We had a 10 pager on this topic courtesy of yours truly and it was more of the same.

You'll never dethrone someone's hero.

Maybe because you claimed MC was racing plumbers and construction workers?

MC is my generation too, and I'm not a big Jett fan...but if he gets close to the win record, nobody can claim he's not knocking on the door of the Kings house.

Numbers don't lie. But...for now....

Get off my lawn lol

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If Jett surpasses McGrath, I bet Jeremy would crown a new king.

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Funny, the things I added in this thread to keep people on track of what I actually wrote have completely derailed the thread and only one person commented on the actual subject of the thread. 

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McG194 wrote:
Funny, the things I added in this thread to keep people on track of what I actually wrote have completely derailed the thread and only one...

Funny, the things I added in this thread to keep people on track of what I actually wrote have completely derailed the thread and only one person commented on the actual subject of the thread. 

This surprises you?        It was going to turn into a fracas no matter what.  Laughing

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His holeshot ability alone will get him > 72 wins.  No one likes changing of the guard, but here we are.  He rarely gets passed, and when he gets a start, Forgettaboutit.

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No King shall be crowned until it's time. This is a law of the kingdom. 

P.s. It was the court that killed the King.

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HonDawg17 wrote:
The only reason Jett is being looked at as "the next guy" is because of #3 via #1. That's the biggest one. He's 10 years younger...

The only reason Jett is being looked at as "the next guy" is because of #3 via #1. That's the biggest one. He's 10 years younger than his competition and they're on their way out...all of them. Justin Cooper just started in 450 and he's already 27. Sexton is the closest in speed and age but still 4 years older..

M.Stewart: 31
Tomac: 31
Roczen: 30 end of April
Plessinger: 28
Webb: 28
Cooper: 27
Sexton: 24

Good point - if those older riders weren't here this season he'd have won San Diego, Anaheim II, Glendale, Arlington too. 

Only Chase would remain who is a near term threat. I wonder how many of them will race until 35 or so given their current competitiveness? Seems weird to check out like Baggett (funny business with his sponsor) when you have a SX win in your previous year. Other than burnout and wanting to move on in life. Doesn't seem to be a bunch of 250 guys coming up that are competitive enough to push the old guys out. 

 

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Preston412 wrote:
If Jett beats McGrath's record, I would consider him King of SX. McGrath changed the way racers raced SX and Jett is doing the same with...

If Jett beats McGrath's record, I would consider him King of SX. McGrath changed the way racers raced SX and Jett is doing the same with his style of riding.  

It'd be pretty hard to deny it at that point. 

Also pretty hard to deny at this point that he's the top of the class pretty easily currently.

However, some perspective on the 72 wins is always good....right now, Jett would need to win out the rest of this season and win every race for the next 4 seasons to get there. 

We've all seen he's got a propensity to hit the ground on a fairly regular basis so it's not a stretch to think he's gonna miss some races over that time frame....so let's say he needs to keep winning at a high clip for another 6-7 years to get it done.  That's a tall order for anyone which is why the next closest guy is still over 20 races back from MC....more than a complete season.

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McG194 wrote:
Funny, the things I added in this thread to keep people on track of what I actually wrote have completely derailed the thread and only one...

Funny, the things I added in this thread to keep people on track of what I actually wrote have completely derailed the thread and only one person commented on the actual subject of the thread. 

Magoofan wrote:
This surprises you?        It was going to turn into a fracas no matter what.  

This surprises you?        It was going to turn into a fracas no matter what.  Laughing

Some of us (me) are dumbasses and always hope for the best. Laughing

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LungButter wrote:
It'd be pretty hard to deny it at that point.  Also pretty hard to deny at this point that he's the top of the class pretty...

It'd be pretty hard to deny it at that point. 

Also pretty hard to deny at this point that he's the top of the class pretty easily currently.

However, some perspective on the 72 wins is always good....right now, Jett would need to win out the rest of this season and win every race for the next 4 seasons to get there. 

We've all seen he's got a propensity to hit the ground on a fairly regular basis so it's not a stretch to think he's gonna miss some races over that time frame....so let's say he needs to keep winning at a high clip for another 6-7 years to get it done.  That's a tall order for anyone which is why the next closest guy is still over 20 races back from MC....more than a complete season.

The gap between 1st and 2nd place for SX wins is telling. Eli, Stew, RC, RV, Dunge... All grrrrreat riders, all not even close. 👑

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Jett haters are down hard.

Kids really good, just accept it 

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Preston412 wrote:
If Jett beats McGrath's record, I would consider him King of SX. McGrath changed the way racers raced SX and Jett is doing the same with...

If Jett beats McGrath's record, I would consider him King of SX. McGrath changed the way racers raced SX and Jett is doing the same with his style of riding.  

LungButter wrote:
It'd be pretty hard to deny it at that point.  Also pretty hard to deny at this point that he's the top of the class pretty...

It'd be pretty hard to deny it at that point. 

Also pretty hard to deny at this point that he's the top of the class pretty easily currently.

However, some perspective on the 72 wins is always good....right now, Jett would need to win out the rest of this season and win every race for the next 4 seasons to get there. 

We've all seen he's got a propensity to hit the ground on a fairly regular basis so it's not a stretch to think he's gonna miss some races over that time frame....so let's say he needs to keep winning at a high clip for another 6-7 years to get it done.  That's a tall order for anyone which is why the next closest guy is still over 20 races back from MC....more than a complete season.

If everything goes right, he should be able to race until he is 30 years old. That gives him 10 seasons in which to get to 72. The obvious math is it is 7.2 wins per year which is winning at a Tomacian clip. You have to figure that one of these years he will put together a McGrath 96 type of year with some 12-win years in there. Makes it seem a lot more doable but in reality, 72 wins is a disgusting number. 

 

Note: I love making words up............ 

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Its crazy we are talking this way when he is at 4 wins. Supercross is a brutal sport and injury and strike that changes the projected future at any time. With that being said. Its the first rider in a long time that I actually think its possible. The kid is no doubt talented and seems to have all the tools to make it happen. Even more impressive is he is also going to be the guy outdoors as well. 

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3/12/2024 11:05am

Side note: I'm also happy this post has been up for 2 hours without someone saying Deegan is moving up next year and going to give Jett the business. 

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Its crazy we are talking this way when he is at 4 wins. Supercross is a brutal sport and injury and strike that changes the projected...

Its crazy we are talking this way when he is at 4 wins. Supercross is a brutal sport and injury and strike that changes the projected future at any time. With that being said. Its the first rider in a long time that I actually think its possible. The kid is no doubt talented and seems to have all the tools to make it happen. Even more impressive is he is also going to be the guy outdoors as well. 

Good job Lucas...enjoy!

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3/12/2024 11:12am
early wrote:

Jett haters are down hard.

Kids really good, just accept it 

And this is why your kind of Jett "supporters" are perpetuating this nonsense. NOBODY isn't accepting how good he is.

So who the hell are you even talking to? Even the guys in this thread who grew up watching MC aren't NOT accepting the potential or how good Jett is. We are just saying there is a long way to go.

Just the fact this is even a conversation should tell you we acknowledge how special Jett is. 

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3/12/2024 11:14am

The what if speculation is fun, but it is just way to early.

He is a hell of a rider but I would bet that he does not break 72. I would also bet he does not race at the pro level for more than another 6-7 years. 

 

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3/12/2024 11:23am

Can I see Jett getting 3 more this season? Yes..

can I see him getting that many, every year for the next 10 years? That’s a huge ask..

There is someone in futures now or an amateur we haven’t heard of that will be eventually battling Jett, and since the sport is always progressing, you just never know.

kids on 60’s jump triples these days.

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3/12/2024 11:29am

Not saying it is likely our not but, if you look at his body of work, he's more likely to be the GOAT than the King. Whistling

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3/12/2024 11:34am
early wrote:

Jett haters are down hard.

Kids really good, just accept it 

That line of BS is getting pretty long in the tooth don't you think?

Nobody hates Jett..... it's his delusional fan-bois people are tired of.

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