Oil, whats the best type.

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Hi, ive run Maxima 927 castor, Honda HP2, and i currently run Maxima Super M at 32:1, i was wondering what you guys consider the best oil.
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moto814 2/7/2010 7:15pm
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There is no "best". There is only "the most correct oil for the circumstances you are riding within".

Pick an oil. Pick a fuel. Pick a ratio. Stick with it. Jet for it and adjust as necessary for conditions.

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I love the smell of the klotz racing oil. I have used 2 stroke oil from walmart that comes in the gallon jug for 10$. Its a cheap oil but I have never had any problems with it. And have run my 83 yz250 for around 50 hours with it without rebuilding it.
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89'cr dude wrote:
Hi, ive run Maxima 927 castor, Honda HP2, and i currently run Maxima Super M at 32:1, i was wondering what you guys consider the best...
Hi, ive run Maxima 927 castor, Honda HP2, and i currently run Maxima Super M at 32:1, i was wondering what you guys consider the best oil.
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89'cr dude 2/8/2010 2:52pm
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well i was asking about mixing with 93 octane pump gas (cant afford race fuel).

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moto814 2/9/2010 12:55pm
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89'cr dude wrote:
well i was asking about mixing with 93 octane pump gas (cant afford race fuel).
OK, you picked your fuel.

Now pick an oil. Any of the modern Semi-synthetic or full synthetic will suffice. Personally I have run Klotz R-50, Klotz Super Techniplate, Amsoil Dominator, and Amsoil interceptor. I would not hesitate to run Motul 800 or 600, Maxima K2, BelRay H1R, or any of a number of other top quality oils.

Then pick a ratio. You'll hear alot of opinion and hearsay about this part of it. Fact of the matter being that you will be safe with most oils in the 32:1 to 40:1 range. You can go with more or less based on your personal tastes.

Now here is the hardest part. Stick with it. Once you've figured out what you are going to run, keep it the same every time you ride. That will make the next part easier.

Learn how to jet, and test and adjust the jetting every time you ride. If you get this part right, you will be rewarded with a MUCH better performing bike.

But what do I know.

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89'cr dude 2/9/2010 3:21pm
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93 octane pump gas, maxima super m, at 32:1 is my regular mix. what are the advantages and disadvantages of synthetic and non synthetic?
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I've been using Lucas semi-synthetic premix lately. I like it because it works well, it's cheap, I can get it 24/7 at the local Autozone and Lucas sponsors Pro SX/MX.

Mix it at the factory recommended ratio for your particular bike. See your service manual.
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89'cr dude 2/10/2010 9:26am
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32:1 is recomended for my bike although ive heard of people running 40:1 (thats what jeremy magrath used on his '90 peak cr125), so i might experiment with the 40:1 once the riding season starts up, but im deffinetly sticking with maxima super M.
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CamP 2/10/2010 9:49am
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Don't go higher than 32:1 with a 125. Higher rpm requires more oil. In fact, the factory 125 bikes actually used ratios close to 24:1 to keep them alive. BTW, the Super M is good oil. It's thinner to be injector compatible so you definitely don't want to use it at high ratios.
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CamP wrote:
Don't go higher than 32:1 with a 125. Higher rpm requires more oil. In fact, the factory 125 bikes actually used ratios close to 24:1 to...
Don't go higher than 32:1 with a 125. Higher rpm requires more oil. In fact, the factory 125 bikes actually used ratios close to 24:1 to keep them alive. BTW, the Super M is good oil. It's thinner to be injector compatible so you definitely don't want to use it at high ratios.
And Dyno results show that more power is made at those ratios.

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I run motul 40:1 haven't had a problem
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CamP wrote:
Don't go higher than 32:1 with a 125. Higher rpm requires more oil. In fact, the factory 125 bikes actually used ratios close to 24:1 to...
Don't go higher than 32:1 with a 125. Higher rpm requires more oil. In fact, the factory 125 bikes actually used ratios close to 24:1 to keep them alive. BTW, the Super M is good oil. It's thinner to be injector compatible so you definitely don't want to use it at high ratios.
Cygnus wrote:
And Dyno results show that more power is made at those ratios.

more power is made at what ratios?, 24:1? I tend to run at 32:1, although if im gonna go for a more abusive ride, i sometimes run 28:1.
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CamP wrote:
Don't go higher than 32:1 with a 125. Higher rpm requires more oil. In fact, the factory 125 bikes actually used ratios close to 24:1 to...
Don't go higher than 32:1 with a 125. Higher rpm requires more oil. In fact, the factory 125 bikes actually used ratios close to 24:1 to keep them alive. BTW, the Super M is good oil. It's thinner to be injector compatible so you definitely don't want to use it at high ratios.
I run 60:1 Amsoil Dominator in my son's 09 KTM 65 SX. Run 50:1 in my other son's Cobra 50 for over a year now and have had no problems with cranks. Don't get any higher revving than a Cobra 50.
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89'cr dude 2/22/2010 2:29pm
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60:1 is CRAZY THIN, If i ran that in my bike it would blow up.
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89'cr dude wrote:
60:1 is CRAZY THIN, If i ran that in my bike it would blow up.
Its what KTM recommends for their 2-strokes. I had to do a double-take when I was reading my manual when I saw that.
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Honda - HP2
You can wipe it off the power valves with a rag. All the other oils I have used bake on to the power valves and you have to fully disassemble them and take them to a polisher to clean them. For what its worth.

From that I would follow Moto814's rules.
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CamP wrote:
Don't go higher than 32:1 with a 125. Higher rpm requires more oil. In fact, the factory 125 bikes actually used ratios close to 24:1 to...
Don't go higher than 32:1 with a 125. Higher rpm requires more oil. In fact, the factory 125 bikes actually used ratios close to 24:1 to keep them alive. BTW, the Super M is good oil. It's thinner to be injector compatible so you definitely don't want to use it at high ratios.
Cygnus wrote:
And Dyno results show that more power is made at those ratios.

89'cr dude wrote:
more power is made at what ratios?, 24:1? I tend to run at 32:1, although if im gonna go for a more abusive ride, i sometimes...
more power is made at what ratios?, 24:1? I tend to run at 32:1, although if im gonna go for a more abusive ride, i sometimes run 28:1.
If you ride WFO all the time, use more oil. Like I said before, most of the factory teams 125's ran 24:1, or so, to keep them alive. Otherwise, just run the factory recommended ratio. The carb is jetted for that ratio so if you deviate from it, you may need to rejet.
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89'cr dude wrote:
60:1 is CRAZY THIN, If i ran that in my bike it would blow up.
Justin314 wrote:
Its what KTM recommends for their 2-strokes. I had to do a double-take when I was reading my manual when I saw that.
I ran 100:1 with AMSOIL in the 125 days

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captmoto 2/24/2010 9:13pm
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I run VP100 pump gas and Max SuperM at 40:1 in a stock YZ465. The bike just didn't like pump gas and it smells so cool. I think pump gas is crap for older bikes.
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