Why is McGrath "The King" in the Current Era?

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slowgti wrote:

Jay Leno and mainstream commercials (1-800 collect)

He is still the king and still relevant today 

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how old are you?

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So we should reset the bar every 5yrs or so?....You obviously have not been around the sport too long

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Lol, do you understand that Honda used to have 5 factory big bike riders at a time? You're acting like factory rides are something new. Legit...

Lol, do you understand that Honda used to have 5 factory big bike riders at a time? You're acting like factory rides are something new. Legit question, how long have you been watching Supercross?

Also, seems funny how you don't mention the list of greats that McGrath beat up on in his career. Dude beat Carmichael, Stanton, Lusk, Pastrana, Windham, LaRocco, DV, Emig, etc. And he didn't just beat them, he absolutely dominated them. In his prime nobody could touch him. 

You don't get to throw out records you don't like just because you're ignorant about the era in which they were achieved. 

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records i dont like? What are you on about? I think its a great record. I love it. wish it was larger. Just dont think it...

records i dont like? What are you on about? I think its a great record. I love it. wish it was larger. Just dont think it compares today. Thanks for the emotional post lol

You have no legitimate reason why McGrath's record shouldn't apply today so yes, you only brought this up because you don't like the record. Either you...

You have no legitimate reason why McGrath's record shouldn't apply today so yes, you only brought this up because you don't like the record. Either you don't like it because of ignorance or because you know no one will ever beat it. 

MC was on bikes that were much harder to ride in an era where injuries were way tougher to come back from. He beat several all-time greats including the fucking GOAT! Oh and he had less races per season to get the record. You have no clue what you're talking about kid

I mentioned 3 specifically you just got red faced and forgot.

Competition is much different, culture is night and day different, and the equipment is not even comparable.

Dude, I'm pretty sure I remember MC was racing guys who were like working construction during the week give me break.

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OwenJakes wrote:

I knew you'd be in here.

What can I say,  I'm drawn to stupid threads for the entertainment.

 

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7- Supercross Titles, Dominating for damn near a decade. Put some respect on the kings name.. nobody else is close.

RC - 5 times

RV - 4 times

anyhow, watch all these races and edumakate yourself.

by the way im only 35... and watched mc's domination in person.. you being 39 is no excuse unless you didn't start watching until you were like 20

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slowgti wrote:

Jay Leno and mainstream commercials (1-800 collect)

He is still the king and still relevant today 

OwenJakes wrote:

how old are you?

tremendously low IQ take 🙄

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Record book says. 72.  The end of story

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tremendously low iq take

Asks for opinions, shits on other's opinions. Bold strategy there cotton.

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OwenJakes wrote:

I knew you'd be in here.

Magoofan wrote:

What can I say,  I'm drawn to stupid threads for the entertainment.

 

You? I'm shocked.

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Guaranteed we can guess the OP's current favorite rider.

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records i dont like? What are you on about? I think its a great record. I love it. wish it was larger. Just dont think it...

records i dont like? What are you on about? I think its a great record. I love it. wish it was larger. Just dont think it compares today. Thanks for the emotional post lol

You have no legitimate reason why McGrath's record shouldn't apply today so yes, you only brought this up because you don't like the record. Either you...

You have no legitimate reason why McGrath's record shouldn't apply today so yes, you only brought this up because you don't like the record. Either you don't like it because of ignorance or because you know no one will ever beat it. 

MC was on bikes that were much harder to ride in an era where injuries were way tougher to come back from. He beat several all-time greats including the fucking GOAT! Oh and he had less races per season to get the record. You have no clue what you're talking about kid

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I mentioned 3 specifically you just got red faced and forgot. Competition is much different, culture is night and day different, and the equipment is not...

I mentioned 3 specifically you just got red faced and forgot.

Competition is much different, culture is night and day different, and the equipment is not even comparable.

Dude, I'm pretty sure I remember MC was racing guys who were like working construction during the week give me break.

I literally addressed the competition in my first reply. Don't get mad at me just because you can't read. Either you were totally ignorant of the competition McGrath faced or you conveniently didn't mention it because you have a biased agenda.

The fuck does culture have to do with anything? And how would you know what the culture was like in the 90s? You're like 14 years old

And yea, the equipment back then was WORSE and less reliable which made it harder to be as dominant as MC was. Don't know how you think that's a legitimate reason to ignore what MC accomplished.

And you clearly don't remember anything about when MC was racing so idk why you're lying about that. 

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You can only beat who you line up against, you can't use that as a knock against him. He wasn't racing scrubs in Ricky, DV, Emig, etc. Were field as deep as they are now? No, but there were other factors that presented unique challenges in McGrath's era as others have mentioned such as bike setup and reliability, injury recovery, and so on. At the end of the day he's won more races than anybody. 

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Yes, Mike Larocco, MX Kied, Stanton, Ryno, Bradshaw, all well known slackers and never trained. 
 

what a broke take. 

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You act like the current riders are experiencing negative impacts to their careers because their numbers don't stack up to McGrath's; as if they are being treated unfairly because McGrath has a record nobody's been able to crack yet.

Nobody is out there crying about their status in the sport because of the long shadow MC casts.

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mxb2 wrote:

Record book says. 72.  The end of story

OwenJakes wrote:

tremendously low iq take

ML512 wrote:

Asks for opinions, shits on other's opinions. Bold strategy there cotton.

Count down to Dumbgeon!

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If he wasn’t relevant today, then why do we see him on the science of supercross every week? Because 20+ years later people still recognize and respect what he has done in his career. 
 

Without MC we wouldn’t have the Bakers  factory. MC made RC raise his level to beat him, he wouldn’t have needed Aldon to be top 5 every week. 

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Yes, Mike Larocco, MX Kied, Stanton, Ryno, Bradshaw, all well known slackers and never trained. 
 

what a broke take. 

He's just another Jett nuthugger who wants an easier record to break

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You have no legitimate reason why McGrath's record shouldn't apply today so yes, you only brought this up because you don't like the record. Either you...

You have no legitimate reason why McGrath's record shouldn't apply today so yes, you only brought this up because you don't like the record. Either you don't like it because of ignorance or because you know no one will ever beat it. 

MC was on bikes that were much harder to ride in an era where injuries were way tougher to come back from. He beat several all-time greats including the fucking GOAT! Oh and he had less races per season to get the record. You have no clue what you're talking about kid

OwenJakes wrote:
I mentioned 3 specifically you just got red faced and forgot. Competition is much different, culture is night and day different, and the equipment is not...

I mentioned 3 specifically you just got red faced and forgot.

Competition is much different, culture is night and day different, and the equipment is not even comparable.

Dude, I'm pretty sure I remember MC was racing guys who were like working construction during the week give me break.

I literally addressed the competition in my first reply. Don't get mad at me just because you can't read. Either you were totally ignorant of the...

I literally addressed the competition in my first reply. Don't get mad at me just because you can't read. Either you were totally ignorant of the competition McGrath faced or you conveniently didn't mention it because you have a biased agenda.

The fuck does culture have to do with anything? And how would you know what the culture was like in the 90s? You're like 14 years old

And yea, the equipment back then was WORSE and less reliable which made it harder to be as dominant as MC was. Don't know how you think that's a legitimate reason to ignore what MC accomplished.

And you clearly don't remember anything about when MC was racing so idk why you're lying about that. 

You're way too emotional. I think it's time to step away from the computer for a while. I'm sorry I hurt you.

 

edit: I hate the lawrences (from a fan standpoint) from head to toe too so miss me with that. Would be happy if they never won again.

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                7- Supercross Titles, Dominating for damn near a decade. Put some respect on the kings name.. nobody else...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

7- Supercross Titles, Dominating for damn near a decade. Put some respect on the kings name.. nobody else is close.

RC - 5 times

RV - 4 times

anyhow, watch all these races and edumakate yourself.

by the way im only 35... and watched mc's domination in person.. you being 39 is no excuse unless you didn't start watching until you were like 20

I’m 39, no idea how old the OP is

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All but maybe 2 or 3 replies in here is a gross caricature or exponentiation of what I said. What a waste. Put this bad boy in the dumbgeon asap. 

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OwenJakes wrote:
I mentioned 3 specifically you just got red faced and forgot. Competition is much different, culture is night and day different, and the equipment is not...

I mentioned 3 specifically you just got red faced and forgot.

Competition is much different, culture is night and day different, and the equipment is not even comparable.

Dude, I'm pretty sure I remember MC was racing guys who were like working construction during the week give me break.

I literally addressed the competition in my first reply. Don't get mad at me just because you can't read. Either you were totally ignorant of the...

I literally addressed the competition in my first reply. Don't get mad at me just because you can't read. Either you were totally ignorant of the competition McGrath faced or you conveniently didn't mention it because you have a biased agenda.

The fuck does culture have to do with anything? And how would you know what the culture was like in the 90s? You're like 14 years old

And yea, the equipment back then was WORSE and less reliable which made it harder to be as dominant as MC was. Don't know how you think that's a legitimate reason to ignore what MC accomplished.

And you clearly don't remember anything about when MC was racing so idk why you're lying about that. 

OwenJakes wrote:
You're way too emotional. I think it's time to step away from the computer for a while. I'm sorry I hurt you.   edit: I hate...

You're way too emotional. I think it's time to step away from the computer for a while. I'm sorry I hurt you.

 

edit: I hate the lawrences (from a fan standpoint) from head to toe too so miss me with that. Would be happy if they never won again.

Lol, I'm guessing "you're too emotional" is code for "I have no rebuttal left whatsoever". I deconstructed every point you tried to make so now you have nothing left to say.

 

Oh and you still haven't said how old you are or how long you've been watching Supercross. Wonder why?

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OwenJakes wrote:
All but maybe 2 or 3 replies in here is a gross caricature or exponentiation of what I said. What a waste. Put this bad boy...

All but maybe 2 or 3 replies in here is a gross caricature or exponentiation of what I said. What a waste. Put this bad boy in the dumbgeon asap. 

Why, because the answers arent want you want?  

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This forum attracts some real gems

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It's a decent question, though maybe poised weirdly, to define what the "modern era" is for supercross (and motocross) and what it isn't - and if the King's record is relevant. 

I've heard "modern era" in the TV broadcasts but not sure if the Vital illuminati have defined what it is/isn't. I feel it was somewhere in the late 80's/early 90's the supercross tracks started to resemble what we have today, with defined whoop and rhythm sections. 

If I look at the 1986 Anaheim supercross (RJ vs Bailey), that track had doubles and triples, but doesn't really resemble today's tracks so I think that is too far back.

Four strokes vs two strokes don't really define it; we had many years of crossover.

McGrath's record is relevant to me today for supercross, either way. 

 

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OwenJakes wrote:
I mentioned 3 specifically you just got red faced and forgot. Competition is much different, culture is night and day different, and the equipment is not...

I mentioned 3 specifically you just got red faced and forgot.

Competition is much different, culture is night and day different, and the equipment is not even comparable.

Dude, I'm pretty sure I remember MC was racing guys who were like working construction during the week give me break.

I literally addressed the competition in my first reply. Don't get mad at me just because you can't read. Either you were totally ignorant of the...

I literally addressed the competition in my first reply. Don't get mad at me just because you can't read. Either you were totally ignorant of the competition McGrath faced or you conveniently didn't mention it because you have a biased agenda.

The fuck does culture have to do with anything? And how would you know what the culture was like in the 90s? You're like 14 years old

And yea, the equipment back then was WORSE and less reliable which made it harder to be as dominant as MC was. Don't know how you think that's a legitimate reason to ignore what MC accomplished.

And you clearly don't remember anything about when MC was racing so idk why you're lying about that. 

OwenJakes wrote:
You're way too emotional. I think it's time to step away from the computer for a while. I'm sorry I hurt you.   edit: I hate...

You're way too emotional. I think it's time to step away from the computer for a while. I'm sorry I hurt you.

 

edit: I hate the lawrences (from a fan standpoint) from head to toe too so miss me with that. Would be happy if they never won again.

Good advice.... maybe you should adhere to it...

I don't get this type of posting...give an opinion and then talk down to and attack those that disagree....

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All but maybe 2 or 3 replies in here is a gross caricature or exponentiation of what I said. What a waste. Put this bad boy...

All but maybe 2 or 3 replies in here is a gross caricature or exponentiation of what I said. What a waste. Put this bad boy in the dumbgeon asap. 

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Why, because the answers arent want you want?  

chris clifford and shakybones provided some good information and perspective. That's what I was kind of looking for. the rest of it is just seething boomer energy.

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chris clifford and shakybones provided some good information and perspective. That's what I was kind of looking for. the rest of it is just seething boomer...

chris clifford and shakybones provided some good information and perspective. That's what I was kind of looking for. the rest of it is just seething boomer energy.

I’m a boomer?

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OwenJakes wrote:
All but maybe 2 or 3 replies in here is a gross caricature or exponentiation of what I said. What a waste. Put this bad boy...

All but maybe 2 or 3 replies in here is a gross caricature or exponentiation of what I said. What a waste. Put this bad boy in the dumbgeon asap. 

mxb2 wrote:

Why, because the answers arent want you want?  

OwenJakes wrote:
chris clifford and shakybones provided some good information and perspective. That's what I was kind of looking for. the rest of it is just seething boomer...

chris clifford and shakybones provided some good information and perspective. That's what I was kind of looking for. the rest of it is just seething boomer energy.

Gee, it's almost like people don't appreciate a child trying to talk down to adults about a topic we have first-hand experience with.

 

Btw, I'm 30 so your "boomer" insults don't really work here. I'm not a boomer, I'm just informed. You're not. And that's the difference

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People conflate accomplishments with progression, its happening in all sports. In the last 10-20 years professionalism has taken over formerly rag-tag new "extreme" sports that took off in the 90s and that has driven progression at a faster rate. The accomplishments of the former giants look quaint now, but they will be remembered as kings because they were game changers in their time.

Pastrana, Hawk, Dale, Sharma, White, etc.

Most of the guys that came later have greater technical ability because of a lifelong focus on the discipline but the soul just isn't there the same way.

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OwenJakes wrote:
You're way too emotional. I think it's time to step away from the computer for a while. I'm sorry I hurt you.   edit: I hate...

You're way too emotional. I think it's time to step away from the computer for a while. I'm sorry I hurt you.

 

edit: I hate the lawrences (from a fan standpoint) from head to toe too so miss me with that. Would be happy if they never won again.

Next you're gonna tell me Buc Nasty's 2000 record wouldn't even stack up to the playa haters of today.

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