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But his trolling degree is. LOL
True but, l have no problem arguing myself.
It’s hilarious. The hypocrisy. Where was he with his picket sign when houses and, apartments were being built? All those poor laborers being forced into slavery as he calls it.
Going to have to agree to disagree on what slavery is. Sorry but prison should be absolutely fucking miserable. Work their asses to exhaustion for 8 hours a day, give them 4 hours of schooling, probably a trade because lets face it they're probably not diving into a white collar corporate job. That leaves 12 hours a day to eat and sleep. Don't like it, don't go to prison.
Nitwits, everyone works for compensation. You might get a paycheck, they might get housing. You want the compensation? This is the work we have available to do to get that compensation. What? You want me to work? that's SLAVERY!
Go home little troll, just go home.
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Curl up in your safe place because,
DISAGWEEEING IS WONG!! I’M MELTING!!
It's pretty fun to watch the two of you jerk each other off over the internet.
Haha!! You’re just mad because, you wanna play monkey in the middle
You’re right that I saw your post. I didn’t read every word because I felt maxed out on people yelling at me. I just went back and read it: congrats on turning your life around. A very small percentage of people can do that and it’s something to be proud of. Thanks for sharing your perspective on getting through it.
Slavery would be forcing someone to do something (because they are homeless in this case) and not paying them to do it, or paying them very little. Prison labor is basically slavery. It also can help people 🤷♂️ So again, you’re not going to hear me give a strong opinion on any of it. My only real opinion is that I think anyone who thinks they know the answer to these questions is wrong.
Even the story of your recovery, which really is impressive, is told from a perspective of success. We don’t hear the stories from people who did the same thing and didn’t make it. It only seems like “the way” to you because it worked.
I do have a liberal arts degree (social psychology). I love avocado toast. That degree did do shit-all to get me out of mom’s basement, but I never trusted that system to help me and have hustled my own way to contribute to the inflated property values and gentrification of my neighborhood.
I’m not a saint but do try to pay it forward. I have paid for meals, hotel rooms, clothes, furniture (a child’s bed), car repairs and cell phone bills. There are small circles where people know my name, because I help.
The bubble around this forum is different than the one I live inside of. I’ve been coming here trying to understand it for a long time with mixed results.
You paid $30k in taxes last year, you're not even close enough to my tax bracket for me to entertain the idea.
You just have to remain opened minded.
It’s called, individuality.
Nothing is set in stone and, always fluid.
Even opinions in many cases.
Hard problems come with hard choices and, even harder, tougher solutions. The world is a cruel place. Harsh realities are often what it takes for people to realize the consequences of their actions. “Rehabilitation” is a term generally associated with prisons.
You never put fires out by throwing more money on top of it.
So, we’re measuring dicks now? Yet you admit you’ll give hand jobs for the right price...
You wouldn't win that contest either.
For the right price, of course I would. Only a fool would say no without knowing a number first.
Well, spit it out cause it isn’t yours to measure
The dialog in this thread is starting to sound like what a bunch of homeless guys talk about around the burn barrel at night.
Welcome back.
I always thought that was what non-moto was, am I wrong?
Back to the issue of homelessness. This is a topic with more layers than the biggest onion ever grown. There are more reasons for people being homeless than we could list in a couple of days when it comes down to it, but most of us generally assign the worst anecdotal reason that we have seen/heard of and apply that as the biggest reason for the majority of cases. I think that it helps us to not think of the homeless as actual people, but rather objects of disdain. Making abject poverty a crime is definitely a way to not have to think of them as living, breathing people I suppose.
Just like there is no single reason for homelessness, there is no single 'answer' on trying to reduce it. But it definitely seems like the economic part of it is going to get a lot worse before it gets better, as more and more living wage jobs are sent overseas and cheap, foreign goods are brought in to fill the shelves of the local Walmart.
I can't put myself into the frame of mind of anyone who has had to suffer from homelessness, even if I wanted to. I truly don't believe that the vast majority of them can think from the same level of rationality as most others, so expecting them to make the same, fairly logical decisions as the rest of us is pretty unrealistic. I do believe that once that someone has hit that low, it would take some incredible strength to get back up to begin functioning 'in society' again. I applaud those that make it, and I have volunteered to help others through service groups and such, but I know that I really haven't made much of a dent in it myself.
From the original post, I can't say that I agree with the sentiment of the ruling made. Not sure how the legal argument really stacks up, I believe that if we asked 6 lawyers we'd get 10 opinions and maybe 15 if we offered to pay them to argue them. I sincerely wish that they hadn't have had to need to make a ruling like this, but again have no answers for curing the vast number of reasons for homelessness in the first place.
Not true. You, in typical liberal play book, ask a leading question so you could then critique. Been there done that.
You could have added substance but chose not.
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Hot damn. Look at the size of this snowflake that just blew in. Good to see ya, AK.
Man, this even brought the wombat out of hibernation. For the record, I've never created another vital user name, I'm not moonlighting as any anybody else.
When I put on my tinfoil hat, the conspiracy I fall back on is that heroine and fentenyl have purposefully let be imported/produced as a way to kill users and discourage use of other recreational drugs that are often laced with them such as cocaine. Combine that with the number of people that get hooked on prescription pain killers and we get this terrible situation with homeless addicts. I've seen people come from good families and get hooked on prescription pills with really bad results, not even homelessness but alot of theft.
Does the prison system or the welfare system do a better job of getting people back on their feet? Both are known to eat their own tail.
Knoxville is the closet city to me.
There they have a "rescue ministry" that is supplying food, and shelter (if wanted) for the area's homeless.
There's been quiet speculation that they're raking in big bucks, and doling out pennies.
Not surprising the local media, and politicians keep that chatter to a minimum.
Allegations of everyone getting their cut have been floating around for years.
They have most of the homeless concentrated in one particular area.
Near the edge of downtown, between an old neighborhood trying to revive itself with new money, and a nearby urban wilderness trail system.
Crimes of opportunity,
Theft, burglary, etc...
are out of control.
Police do little more than file reports.
Mt bike thefts at trailheads and parking lots are not uncommon.
Bikes ripped from carriers while riders are eating at local establishments are common.
As are homeless riding around on name brand bikes.
Garages are broken into.
Cars vandalized.
Cops do nothing.
Groups of riders are going into these homeless camps, reclaiming stolen bikes.
Sooner or later someone is going to get hurt.
Local homeowners and local small businesses are pissed off that nothing much more than lip service is being done.
Local news comment sections quickly get filled with bleeding heart liberals, and asst bible thumper types, replying with the usual, "the poor homeless" bullshit anytime the subject arises.
The same bullshit that our baiting troll is spewing here.
Homelessness is big bu$ine$$.
And as usual, it's our money being misused to line pockets.
There is huge money to be made in helping the homeless problem. But you need a homeless problem to help to make that money.🤔
While there's a lot of truth in there. I'm not in agreement that we think of homeless as "objects of disdain" And I don't think we are trying to make poverty a crime. I would like to see multiple solutions as I agree there are multiple reasons. I'm pretty sure if we created homeless housing that allowed people to get back on track with conditions, we would not get 100% participation. On the other end of the spectrum, if we gave out free money, we'd get 200% participation as the number would instantly grow. So lets start somewhere. A community where they can live for 1 year, participate in rehab and drug testing. The people that really want to step up would participate. Pay the full wages to companies that would hire them for 6 months. If the company lets them go after the 6 months they have to pay it back, keep them for 1.5 years. It's free employment to the company. 50% of their wages will go into a fund to pay for rent of a new place when they get moved out after a year. Fail drug test, you lose your place in the community and 50% of your fund. (you were already compensated for working by getting free housing). Now they have a good fund to start, guaranteed employment for the next 6 months on their own. While this could never work, the public would say it's a gift to big business, I'm sure there are things that could work.
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Choices have consequences. Why should my tax dollars go to pay someone to continue to have kids when they wont take care of them? Why should my taxes pay for "crackhead Mary" to just keep breeding? If you OD 2 times you should be fixed. If you are on Welfare and have 2 kids you should be fixed. If you can prove that you can be a productive member of society then you can get it reversed (at your expense). The kids that are born into this mess are most of the time are destine to repeat the failures of their parents. The only way to stop it is to stop it. It's past time to stop being a Nation of bleeding hearts and start doing what needs to be done. The boarder is another example of its just time to do the right thing to shut it down. No one is against legal immigration but why do we allow illegals? We are letting the Politicians destroy this country.
Need stuff like this, but legal and patrolled by security. Cheap room houses with communal bathroom and kitchen used to be a thing, then zoning laws really took off and these became illegal.
That’s not a leading question… A leading question is like, “Shouldn’t we be doing X instead of Y?” or “Don’t you think doing X would help with Y?” You read and responded to it as if it was leading.
I’m curious where both of you stand on abortion.
In all seriousness, I’m curious where you stand.
Chance stands in WA
AK stands in CA
Currently 😂
So Cal (Carson) transplant.
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