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11/25/2023 4:50am Edited Date/Time 11/25/2023 4:51am

one thing watching this race has done is it has given me a hell of a lot of appreciation for the talent we get lined up at A1 each year. can't wait

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tek14 wrote:

Vince and Karma met finally. 

bens 152 wrote:

Can elaborate? Missed the action, I did see the move on Joey. 

he took joey wide making contact in the first corner and got a flat

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The racing was pretty boring, wasn’t too much going on out there and not even Vince could liven it up this time.. They need to build...

The racing was pretty boring, wasn’t too much going on out there and not even Vince could liven it up this time..

They need to build better tracks. Don’t track builders understand a 90 degree corner in and out of a whoop section essentially creates 1 line and very limited passing opportunity??

Open up the first corner into more of a sweeper, not just a sharp U turn. Bring in an over/under bridge perhaps. They’ve got an opportunity to create something unique on this “World” stage and half the issue is the tracks and/or venues (in Abu Dhabi’s case).

They should look at running a super motocross style set up in the mxgp off season and market it towards the mxgp contigent with select AMA/other nations riders etc (it already only runs 3-5 races doesn’t it?). It’s never going to be the premier Supercross c’ship and should steer away from the world Supercross championship logo that every knowledgeable fan scoffs at when they hear it.

 

Global supercross fans want to watch Supercross as close to AMA supercross as possible.  Not a bastardized SMX track or some random here nor there motocross supercross hybrid with minimal fans and a risk of rain outs - which is what ruined a previous version of the Aus supercross series aiming to have full sized tracks (and the tracks were incredible, I went to one of these events, Brisbane 2009 and the track and racing was amazing)

https://amxhistory.com.au/australia-supercross-history-super-x-series

 

And speaking of logos any knowledgeable fan seems the SMX scoffs knowing it’s a bastardized WSX logo.

 

but alas us Aussies love that WSX exists. 

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11/25/2023 6:13am Edited Date/Time 11/25/2023 6:15am
Derpin' DJ wrote:
Tracks hard to pass. Whoops not in a great spot. 4 180s which is good, but not sure what it is, just doesn't look like they...

Tracks hard to pass. Whoops not in a great spot. 4 180s which is good, but not sure what it is, just doesn't look like they are open enough for passes.

Zacka 161 wrote:
The track is On par with many ama SX tracks.  Especially in the 2010s when some of them got down to 40 second lap times.  Back...

The track is On par with many ama SX tracks.  Especially in the 2010s when some of them got down to 40 second lap times.  Back when 20 lap races were as short as 13/14 minutes.  

2010s? There were a few AMA tracks that were just over 40s this year! 

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Derpin' DJ wrote:
Tracks hard to pass. Whoops not in a great spot. 4 180s which is good, but not sure what it is, just doesn't look like they...

Tracks hard to pass. Whoops not in a great spot. 4 180s which is good, but not sure what it is, just doesn't look like they are open enough for passes.

Zacka 161 wrote:
The track is On par with many ama SX tracks.  Especially in the 2010s when some of them got down to 40 second lap times.  Back...

The track is On par with many ama SX tracks.  Especially in the 2010s when some of them got down to 40 second lap times.  Back when 20 lap races were as short as 13/14 minutes.  

CPR wrote:

2010s? There were a few AMA tracks that were just over 40s this year! 

True true. Check this track from 2010 Aus supercross.  Unfortunately crowds were under 4000 by this point and the series was dead the next year.  But the tracks were better that 90% of amasx tracks. 
 

https://youtu.be/2n5bUjJG-8o?feature=shared

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Zacka 161 wrote:
The track is On par with many ama SX tracks.  Especially in the 2010s when some of them got down to 40 second lap times.  Back...

The track is On par with many ama SX tracks.  Especially in the 2010s when some of them got down to 40 second lap times.  Back when 20 lap races were as short as 13/14 minutes.  

CPR wrote:

2010s? There were a few AMA tracks that were just over 40s this year! 

Zacka 161 wrote:
True true. Check this track from 2010 Aus supercross.  Unfortunately crowds were under 4000 by this point and the series was dead the next year.  But...

True true. Check this track from 2010 Aus supercross.  Unfortunately crowds were under 4000 by this point and the series was dead the next year.  But the tracks were better that 90% of amasx tracks. 
 

https://youtu.be/2n5bUjJG-8o?feature=shared

Have to agree, that was a sweet track, lots of room for passing.

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just watched the races on FS 2

boring and just embarrassing again to hear World champion after 3 stops across the globe like last year 🙄

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IMG 2424 0Racing continued around the city, never seen these E scooters before, was a great night, Aranda, Savargey and Wilson where also fast but Roczen was just to talented 

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11/25/2023 2:10pm

What happened to Matt?

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What happened to Matt?

Broke a few neck bones in Newcastle 

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It was hard work to watch, having all the cameras on the floor instead of having some in the stands,so you could actually see the track, was wierd TBH. 

And the SX2 podium was embarrassing. Guy wins a World* series and is stood there like a prune looking for his trophy. 

Was the best one so far , but it wasnt a high bar really, was it ? 

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Front242 wrote:

just watched the races on FS 2

boring and just embarrassing again to hear World champion after 3 stops across the globe like last year 🙄

Do u also call the smx world champion embarrassing after three stops across America.

I get that the tracks are not great. I get the riders are not all there. But they are trying to start from 0. It's impossible to go from nothing to having 10 races like ama sx all across the globe.

If you don't like it don't watch it.

It seems like 99% of ppl against it are Americans. 

No one thinks thinks winning this world championship is equal to winning an ama or mxgp world championship. But they have to start somewhere if they want to bring races to other countries.

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Racing continued around the city, never seen these E scooters before, was a great night, Aranda, Savargey and Wilson where also fast but Roczen was just...

IMG 2424 0Racing continued around the city, never seen these E scooters before, was a great night, Aranda, Savargey and Wilson where also fast but Roczen was just to talented 

The most amazing part about this trip so far is the fact that I have not seen someone either, stack one of these scooters especially in the rain or seen someone ran into by a scooter.

They are used everywhere, every footpath over in Melbourne is packed with people walking with E Scooters and Push bikes weaving in and out of everyone.

Closest we saw was walking back last night, some chick went straight through a red light across a tram lane and one lane of taffic before she worked out how to stop it, how she didn't get cleaned out by a car I will never know.

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11/25/2023 4:39pm
The racing was pretty boring, wasn’t too much going on out there and not even Vince could liven it up this time.. They need to build...

The racing was pretty boring, wasn’t too much going on out there and not even Vince could liven it up this time..

They need to build better tracks. Don’t track builders understand a 90 degree corner in and out of a whoop section essentially creates 1 line and very limited passing opportunity??

Open up the first corner into more of a sweeper, not just a sharp U turn. Bring in an over/under bridge perhaps. They’ve got an opportunity to create something unique on this “World” stage and half the issue is the tracks and/or venues (in Abu Dhabi’s case).

They should look at running a super motocross style set up in the mxgp off season and market it towards the mxgp contigent with select AMA/other nations riders etc (it already only runs 3-5 races doesn’t it?). It’s never going to be the premier Supercross c’ship and should steer away from the world Supercross championship logo that every knowledgeable fan scoffs at when they hear it.

 

Track was great, It actually showed the difference between a good Aus based privateer, the top Pro Aussies and what riders at the top of the World can all do and the gap difference between them.

The double coming out of the corner of the first turn was huge, most the 450s ended up hitting it, but only a few SX2 riders were hitting it, That alone showed one difference,

The whoop speed of Kenny was insane, clearly ahead of anyone else on track.

Colt pulling out that Quad in the final race, which no one else hit all weekend.

Plenty of places to pass, nearly every 180 corner had multiple ruts through it.

The fast riders when at the back of the field always found a way to move forward.

I think people over estimate how hard it is to pass a rider of similar speed on any track anywhere in the world. If two riders are close to speed the rider in front is always going to take the fastest line, meaning the rider behind needs to go "Off Line" to make a move.

Last nights track provide plenty of spots for faster riders to pass, and a couple of passing spots for riders of the same or similar speed. We sat near in the top stand right at the end of the start straight above the whoops, could see everything going on at all times, and there was always something happening around the track on every lap.

It was one of the best events I have ever been to for on track action.

I have not watched the TV coverage yet, so can't comment about how it looked from that perspective, but from being at the venue, the racing was unreal, myself and my boy were excited the whole way through, constantly hitting each other and saying, did you see that, or pointing out what a rider had just done.

It was freaking awesome.

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11/25/2023 4:46pm
Front242 wrote:

just watched the races on FS 2

boring and just embarrassing again to hear World champion after 3 stops across the globe like last year 🙄

Compare to being crowned a WORLD champion for racing one extra race in Canada, or racing three races in the America in a Hybrid form of racing combining SX and MX.

Just thing in some sports people are crowned WORLD CHAMPIONs in a one off race.

Fuck a BMX World Champion comes down to a single race that lasts around 30s, would love to hear your thoughts on that.

We get it some of you have an issue with some good quality riders racing SX outside of the U.S and taking the sport to new markets around the world for some reason.

But for those of us that will never travel to the U.S to watch a AMA Supercross, (which is the best series in the world for sure) It is great to have the opportunity to see the likes of Kenny race in a venue much closer to home.

Certainly been lucky over the years at the Australian SX series in various forms has always been able to attract 1-2 top 5-10 quality riders over to race most seasons, but to see the likes of Kenny is just another level.

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You US supercross gatekeepers are adorable!

I thought it was a good night of sx interesting races all night and a good track!

I also know a heap of my mates flew to Melbourne to watch it and had an excellent time! Most of which probably wouldn't drive a couple of hours to watch the Aussie series so that shows me there's a huge amount of interest in the WSX!

They do need to do a little polishing in a few places but it could very easily turn into a great series for the rest of the world to see some of the best sx riders in the world

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The racing was pretty boring, wasn’t too much going on out there and not even Vince could liven it up this time.. They need to build...

The racing was pretty boring, wasn’t too much going on out there and not even Vince could liven it up this time..

They need to build better tracks. Don’t track builders understand a 90 degree corner in and out of a whoop section essentially creates 1 line and very limited passing opportunity??

Open up the first corner into more of a sweeper, not just a sharp U turn. Bring in an over/under bridge perhaps. They’ve got an opportunity to create something unique on this “World” stage and half the issue is the tracks and/or venues (in Abu Dhabi’s case).

They should look at running a super motocross style set up in the mxgp off season and market it towards the mxgp contigent with select AMA/other nations riders etc (it already only runs 3-5 races doesn’t it?). It’s never going to be the premier Supercross c’ship and should steer away from the world Supercross championship logo that every knowledgeable fan scoffs at when they hear it.

 

Zacka 161 wrote:
Global supercross fans want to watch Supercross as close to AMA supercross as possible.  Not a bastardized SMX track or some random here nor there motocross...

Global supercross fans want to watch Supercross as close to AMA supercross as possible.  Not a bastardized SMX track or some random here nor there motocross supercross hybrid with minimal fans and a risk of rain outs - which is what ruined a previous version of the Aus supercross series aiming to have full sized tracks (and the tracks were incredible, I went to one of these events, Brisbane 2009 and the track and racing was amazing)

https://amxhistory.com.au/australia-supercross-history-super-x-series

 

And speaking of logos any knowledgeable fan seems the SMX scoffs knowing it’s a bastardized WSX logo.

 

but alas us Aussies love that WSX exists. 

The tracks an racing in the 2008-2010 years where crazy good from what I remember, I remember going to the Geelong round in 2009 

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Front242 wrote:

just watched the races on FS 2

boring and just embarrassing again to hear World champion after 3 stops across the globe like last year 🙄

aaryn #234 wrote:
Compare to being crowned a WORLD champion for racing one extra race in Canada, or racing three races in the America in a Hybrid form of...

Compare to being crowned a WORLD champion for racing one extra race in Canada, or racing three races in the America in a Hybrid form of racing combining SX and MX.

Just thing in some sports people are crowned WORLD CHAMPIONs in a one off race.

Fuck a BMX World Champion comes down to a single race that lasts around 30s, would love to hear your thoughts on that.

We get it some of you have an issue with some good quality riders racing SX outside of the U.S and taking the sport to new markets around the world for some reason.

But for those of us that will never travel to the U.S to watch a AMA Supercross, (which is the best series in the world for sure) It is great to have the opportunity to see the likes of Kenny race in a venue much closer to home.

Certainly been lucky over the years at the Australian SX series in various forms has always been able to attract 1-2 top 5-10 quality riders over to race most seasons, but to see the likes of Kenny is just another level.

Australia had the series before and Adam and crew did a great job......Then they convinced the FIM (after the AMA told them to take a hike) to join their wannabe SX series and call it a world championship.  It's great they have racing over there and it was great before when they had RC, Reed, and others come over (like Paris and others), but they acted like it was going to take over SX and push the outdoors out too.....worked out solid and now lost their investors.

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11/25/2023 5:59pm Edited Date/Time 11/25/2023 6:00pm

i like to watch SX MX

but i don't like races with just 1 top 10 rider and the rest are top 10 to 20 rider and at the end calling it Wordl Championship just after 3 rounds

Roczen signed just for the money to make money without less stress of a full season period cause he isn't a titel contender for the AMA SX titel period so he can step out anytime if he likes

 

first year with just 3 rounds as the opener was ok but second year from 6 to 3 again was a joke

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Front242 wrote:
i like to watch SX MX but i don't like races with just 1 top 10 rider and the rest are top 10 to 20 rider...

i like to watch SX MX

but i don't like races with just 1 top 10 rider and the rest are top 10 to 20 rider and at the end calling it Wordl Championship just after 3 rounds

Roczen signed just for the money to make money without less stress of a full season period cause he isn't a titel contender for the AMA SX titel period so he can step out anytime if he likes

 

first year with just 3 rounds as the opener was ok but second year from 6 to 3 again was a joke

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Agreed.  It would be great if they just called it what it is and make it an off season SX series.  They should have partnered with Eric which sounds like they may be talking.  If that happens, it would be awesome

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11/25/2023 7:01pm Edited Date/Time 11/25/2023 7:48pm
Front242 wrote:

just watched the races on FS 2

boring and just embarrassing again to hear World champion after 3 stops across the globe like last year 🙄

Yz450fkid wrote:
Do u also call the smx world champion embarrassing after three stops across America. I get that the tracks are not great. I get the riders...

Do u also call the smx world champion embarrassing after three stops across America.

I get that the tracks are not great. I get the riders are not all there. But they are trying to start from 0. It's impossible to go from nothing to having 10 races like ama sx all across the globe.

If you don't like it don't watch it.

It seems like 99% of ppl against it are Americans. 

No one thinks thinks winning this world championship is equal to winning an ama or mxgp world championship. But they have to start somewhere if they want to bring races to other countries.

Yeah but they tried to start at 10+ and claim they were the greatest SX series in the world….it also seems that the majority of the supporters are Aussie…its unfortunate but Adam Bailey has bitten off way more than he can chew…the Aussie round was the best of the three but you couldn’t put the bar any lower than it was…I personally think that Bailey is way out of his league and is the reason the series is failing…If Eric Peronnard was in charge the series would be a lot closer to being successful than it is…Eric would have never made the dumb mistakes that Bailey has….but that’s what happens when you have a snake oil salesman in charge…

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Joshracing wrote:

I think there's Golf on Chanel 9. More interesting than this shit show.

ti473 wrote:

I thought channel 9 had the breast exam on

Can’t you just pretend we can’t hear each other through the wall?

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Yeah but they tried to start at 10+ and claim they were the greatest SX series in the world….it also seems that the majority of the...

Yeah but they tried to start at 10+ and claim they were the greatest SX series in the world….it also seems that the majority of the supporters are Aussie…its unfortunate but Adam Bailey has bitten off way more than he can chew…the Aussie round was the best of the three but you couldn’t put the bar any lower than it was…I personally think that Bailey is way out of his league and is the reason the series is failing…If Eric Peronnard was in charge the series would be a lot closer to being successful than it is…Eric would have never made the dumb mistakes that Bailey has….but that’s what happens when you have a snake oil salesman in charge…

And all the fucking crybaby whiners are yanks, thankfully no one gives a flying fuck what you think. You're just another know it all know nothing big mouth that couldn't do any better. If you don't like it don't watch it, one things for certain, you yanks are the world champions of whining, you've got that championship sewn up.

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DonM wrote:
Yeah but they tried to start at 10+ and claim they were the greatest SX series in the world….it also seems that the majority of the...

Yeah but they tried to start at 10+ and claim they were the greatest SX series in the world….it also seems that the majority of the supporters are Aussie…its unfortunate but Adam Bailey has bitten off way more than he can chew…the Aussie round was the best of the three but you couldn’t put the bar any lower than it was…I personally think that Bailey is way out of his league and is the reason the series is failing…If Eric Peronnard was in charge the series would be a lot closer to being successful than it is…Eric would have never made the dumb mistakes that Bailey has….but that’s what happens when you have a snake oil salesman in charge…

MX690 wrote:
And all the fucking crybaby whiners are yanks, thankfully no one gives a flying fuck what you think. You're just another know it all know nothing...

And all the fucking crybaby whiners are yanks, thankfully no one gives a flying fuck what you think. You're just another know it all know nothing big mouth that couldn't do any better. If you don't like it don't watch it, one things for certain, you yanks are the world champions of whining, you've got that championship sewn up.

Nobody's whining, but the series is a joke compared to what it was allegedly going to be.  If you think a 3 round series with only one top rider they wrote a massive check to so he would show up is legit, go back in the hole you crawled out of.

Oh yeah, if you didn't care what we think you wouldn't respond would ya?

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11/25/2023 9:52pm
Zacka 161 wrote:
True true. Check this track from 2010 Aus supercross.  Unfortunately crowds were under 4000 by this point and the series was dead the next year.  But...

True true. Check this track from 2010 Aus supercross.  Unfortunately crowds were under 4000 by this point and the series was dead the next year.  But the tracks were better that 90% of amasx tracks. 
 

https://youtu.be/2n5bUjJG-8o?feature=shared

Sweetness, I enjoyed watching that. Thanks for Sharing Zacka.

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As someone who actually attended the race last night it was a great event, with an engaged and entertained crowd.

I really don’t understand why people are so binary with their opinions (sadly a phenomena that appears in every aspect of life these days).

I think everyone knows that WSX is not the premier championship in the world, and it’s also clear there are some significant growing pains that are being navigated. however there clearly is an appetite in some places outside of the US to see SX, and you don’t grow a sport (or any product for that matter) by just trying to appeal to the same group of people.

its more racing for fans, and more opportunities for riders and staff alike.

I hope it grows and prospers, although it will be a challenge no doubt.

Final comment is, instead of talking trash about WSX who are clearly putting their balls on the line and having some significant issues. Maybe it’s more of a reflection on just how polished the Feld product is. There have been other races around the world and they all struggle to look the finished product that is SX. But I bet SX was a bit janky in their early days too.

 

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Geez some of you guys really get your knickers in a knot about the smallest things 😂 it’s kinda funny how much this series bothers a few of you.

It was a good weekend of racing and very entertaining. Wasn’t perfect (what is?), but what’s not to like about racing if you’re a moto fan? A little positivity goes a long way.

Track was good and despite it looking hard to pass on, there was plenty of movement and action. 
Quality field (despite what the haters rant about), with half of the top 10 from the last rounds of AMA SX racing. Then you have a few quality internationals added in. I’ll watch that any day of the week. 
Roczen’s talent shone through, Oldenburg was sneaky good, great to see Nichols get a win, Friese finally had some karma, would like to see Aranda give AMA SX another shot, and Anstie was happy as always!
Commentary team of Rusty, Langston, Kristen, Reedy and RJ performed well. 
The broadcast package was top notch, hardly any downtime and free!

 

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aaryn #234 wrote:
Track was great, It actually showed the difference between a good Aus based privateer, the top Pro Aussies and what riders at the top of the...

Track was great, It actually showed the difference between a good Aus based privateer, the top Pro Aussies and what riders at the top of the World can all do and the gap difference between them.

The double coming out of the corner of the first turn was huge, most the 450s ended up hitting it, but only a few SX2 riders were hitting it, That alone showed one difference,

The whoop speed of Kenny was insane, clearly ahead of anyone else on track.

Colt pulling out that Quad in the final race, which no one else hit all weekend.

Plenty of places to pass, nearly every 180 corner had multiple ruts through it.

The fast riders when at the back of the field always found a way to move forward.

I think people over estimate how hard it is to pass a rider of similar speed on any track anywhere in the world. If two riders are close to speed the rider in front is always going to take the fastest line, meaning the rider behind needs to go "Off Line" to make a move.

Last nights track provide plenty of spots for faster riders to pass, and a couple of passing spots for riders of the same or similar speed. We sat near in the top stand right at the end of the start straight above the whoops, could see everything going on at all times, and there was always something happening around the track on every lap.

It was one of the best events I have ever been to for on track action.

I have not watched the TV coverage yet, so can't comment about how it looked from that perspective, but from being at the venue, the racing was unreal, myself and my boy were excited the whole way through, constantly hitting each other and saying, did you see that, or pointing out what a rider had just done.

It was freaking awesome.

Track definitely worked better in the main races. In the heat races I didn't see heaps of passes in the 180s, but with more people on the track and some more ruts, they seemed to work alot better. Definitely some cool jump combos, like the big double you mentioned. Dirt looked really good.

Re: your comment on the scooters, I know right! Some people were intentionally locking up the brakes, in the rain, over painted surfaces, without helmets on! Looked so easy to come a gutser 

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Yeah but they tried to start at 10+ and claim they were the greatest SX series in the world….it also seems that the majority of the...

Yeah but they tried to start at 10+ and claim they were the greatest SX series in the world….it also seems that the majority of the supporters are Aussie…its unfortunate but Adam Bailey has bitten off way more than he can chew…the Aussie round was the best of the three but you couldn’t put the bar any lower than it was…I personally think that Bailey is way out of his league and is the reason the series is failing…If Eric Peronnard was in charge the series would be a lot closer to being successful than it is…Eric would have never made the dumb mistakes that Bailey has….but that’s what happens when you have a snake oil salesman in charge…

They started at 10 blah blah we all know. Bailey as acknowledged… and because of that the American teams went hard to stop their riders racing, which is to me what is the biggest downfall of all.  
 

your bright spark theory is that a promoter with decades of supercross experience would have been better than someone with less experience.  Cool.  What an interesting original theory.

And no one is arguing the series is perfect… you just feel incredibly compelled to shit on more racing for some reason and I can’t work out what it is.  
 

but I’m glad you think outside the box.
 

And I went to Peronards Paris supercross this year, AUS X last year.  Honestly baring the quality of riders it’s not at all night and day difference. Was probably 90% of the quality and from all accounts this years AUS X was a step up… 

 

Peronard had handlebar races and trials bike and flatland BMX demos and a whole lot of weird sideshows. It was as much downtime as Aus X and just as unexciting. The pitbike race was cool though. 

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aaryn #234 wrote:
Track was great, It actually showed the difference between a good Aus based privateer, the top Pro Aussies and what riders at the top of the...

Track was great, It actually showed the difference between a good Aus based privateer, the top Pro Aussies and what riders at the top of the World can all do and the gap difference between them.

The double coming out of the corner of the first turn was huge, most the 450s ended up hitting it, but only a few SX2 riders were hitting it, That alone showed one difference,

The whoop speed of Kenny was insane, clearly ahead of anyone else on track.

Colt pulling out that Quad in the final race, which no one else hit all weekend.

Plenty of places to pass, nearly every 180 corner had multiple ruts through it.

The fast riders when at the back of the field always found a way to move forward.

I think people over estimate how hard it is to pass a rider of similar speed on any track anywhere in the world. If two riders are close to speed the rider in front is always going to take the fastest line, meaning the rider behind needs to go "Off Line" to make a move.

Last nights track provide plenty of spots for faster riders to pass, and a couple of passing spots for riders of the same or similar speed. We sat near in the top stand right at the end of the start straight above the whoops, could see everything going on at all times, and there was always something happening around the track on every lap.

It was one of the best events I have ever been to for on track action.

I have not watched the TV coverage yet, so can't comment about how it looked from that perspective, but from being at the venue, the racing was unreal, myself and my boy were excited the whole way through, constantly hitting each other and saying, did you see that, or pointing out what a rider had just done.

It was freaking awesome.

Derpin' DJ wrote:
Track definitely worked better in the main races. In the heat races I didn't see heaps of passes in the 180s, but with more people on...

Track definitely worked better in the main races. In the heat races I didn't see heaps of passes in the 180s, but with more people on the track and some more ruts, they seemed to work alot better. Definitely some cool jump combos, like the big double you mentioned. Dirt looked really good.

Re: your comment on the scooters, I know right! Some people were intentionally locking up the brakes, in the rain, over painted surfaces, without helmets on! Looked so easy to come a gutser 

I was filming a hockey documentary earlier in the year in Melbourne and player rode one of the scooters into a chain fence and went dick up.  Bruised his hip bone and wasn’t able to play the nationals. 

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