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11/17/2023 9:52am
hartebreak wrote:
Isn't this literally the exact thing the KC66 foundation has been trying to work on? Not sure if more timely medical care would have saved Kurt...

Isn't this literally the exact thing the KC66 foundation has been trying to work on? Not sure if more timely medical care would have saved Kurt, but it might have... You're completely right. Score needs to address this lack of available medical help or stop running this race for bikes and quads.  Yes, I know these racers know the risk, yes they are aware of where they are racing but come on, can't these promoters partner with some medivac companies (air-med, lifeflight, wings of rescue etc. ) to have choppers stationed every 200 miles or a long the course ready to respond to a call?  Shit, many of the top $$$ teams run choppers to follow their driver/rider around for the sake of mechanical help, yet someone crashes and they have to rely on another racer to toss them into their race vehicle to get them closer to help. Wtf

It is, but they don't work with SCORE at all to my knowledge.

From what I've gathered, you have to have a twin engine helicopter to be legal to fly after dark in Mexico and SCORE doesn't pony up for that.

It's been clear for years that SCORE doesn't give a fuck about the bikes, it's kinda surprising they even keep running them.

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11/17/2023 10:09am
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Been following him. He's dropped back a few spots but still running strong, just about to pass RM1000! 

 

Freaking legendary. For sure he hasn't slept since maybe Tuesday night. One of the coolest things about this though is how the entire off-road community is working together to get him to the finish since he has no chase crew. One of the coolest stories of this year's race for sure. 

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11/17/2023 10:17am
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This is the sort of thing that only happens in stories. I mean what an absolute legend to even try and make it to the line let alone make it so far

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11/17/2023 10:48am
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TriRacer27 wrote:
Been following him. He's dropped back a few spots but still running strong, just about to pass RM1000!    Freaking legendary. For sure he hasn't slept...

Been following him. He's dropped back a few spots but still running strong, just about to pass RM1000! 

 

Freaking legendary. For sure he hasn't slept since maybe Tuesday night. One of the coolest things about this though is how the entire off-road community is working together to get him to the finish since he has no chase crew. One of the coolest stories of this year's race for sure. 

Can't imagine!

So easy to make a mistake when you're that tired. Brain shuts down and you can run out of gas because you couldn't concentrate any more ... figuratively the wheels fall off. 

Dangerous for these warriors if they don't manage their brain. Takes a special mentality and a team of guardian angels.  

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11/17/2023 12:36pm
LungButter wrote:

6+ hours to get medical help in the year 2023 is unacceptable.  SCORE needs to be better.  They should be fucking ashamed.

That's not SCORE - that's just Mexico/BC.  You don't get to fly in Baja at night.

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LungButter
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11/17/2023 12:38pm
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That's not SCORE - that's just Mexico/BC.  You don't get to fly in Baja at night.

I've read that a twin engine heli can fly at night but SCORE doesn't want to put the resources toward that.

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11/17/2023 12:53pm

Hope Kade is going to be okay. Good kid who literally lives to ride. 

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TriRacer27 wrote:
Been following him. He's dropped back a few spots but still running strong, just about to pass RM1000!    Freaking legendary. For sure he hasn't slept...

Been following him. He's dropped back a few spots but still running strong, just about to pass RM1000! 

 

Freaking legendary. For sure he hasn't slept since maybe Tuesday night. One of the coolest things about this though is how the entire off-road community is working together to get him to the finish since he has no chase crew. One of the coolest stories of this year's race for sure. 

Sounds like he lost those spots because he got turned around was going the wrong way for awhile, what an animal. How about just buying a bike in San Diego and riding it to La Paz period. And then race 1300 miles (Longer after his detour) .  Respect. What a Badass !  

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11/17/2023 1:10pm
bonseff wrote:

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TriRacer27 wrote:
Been following him. He's dropped back a few spots but still running strong, just about to pass RM1000!    Freaking legendary. For sure he hasn't slept...

Been following him. He's dropped back a few spots but still running strong, just about to pass RM1000! 

 

Freaking legendary. For sure he hasn't slept since maybe Tuesday night. One of the coolest things about this though is how the entire off-road community is working together to get him to the finish since he has no chase crew. One of the coolest stories of this year's race for sure. 

sumdood wrote:
Sounds like he lost those spots because he got turned around was going the wrong way for awhile, what an animal. How about just buying a...

Sounds like he lost those spots because he got turned around was going the wrong way for awhile, what an animal. How about just buying a bike in San Diego and riding it to La Paz period. And then race 1300 miles (Longer after his detour) .  Respect. What a Badass !  

I really hope Vital, PulpMX, Gypsy Tales or someone gets an interview with this legend. 

And you're right, looks like he got turned around at RM 935 and backtracked all the way to 919 before correcting, so an extra 32 miles or so. He's averaging about 29 mph so, with stopping to check his map and maybe ask for directions, he easily lost about an hr there. 

 

Also, keep in mind, it's not like he bought a KTM 450 Rally that's fully prepped for this sort of thing. He's on what looks like a pretty clapped out old KTM with painted on numbers. Baja KTM

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11/17/2023 1:35pm Edited Date/Time 11/17/2023 1:37pm

Hope Kade is going to be okay. Good kid who literally lives to ride. 

I reached out to Kade's dad (who lives in Toronto Canada ) via email and received this back at 12:50pm PST.........

I woke up to the news this morning. He crashed yesterday around 4 PM. He is in a coma but in stable condition. Right now he is at the hospital in San Diego. 

Scripps Mercy Hospital ICU trauma care unit.  Right now he is getting another scan.  We should know soon if the bleeding is under control. I will update you as soon as I know.  

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11/17/2023 2:15pm
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I reached out to Kade's dad (who lives in Toronto Canada ) via email and received this back at 12:50pm PST......... I woke up to the...

I reached out to Kade's dad (who lives in Toronto Canada ) via email and received this back at 12:50pm PST.........

I woke up to the news this morning. He crashed yesterday around 4 PM. He is in a coma but in stable condition. Right now he is at the hospital in San Diego. 

Scripps Mercy Hospital ICU trauma care unit.  Right now he is getting another scan.  We should know soon if the bleeding is under control. I will update you as soon as I know.  

Thank you for the update.

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11/17/2023 2:18pm
TriRacer27 wrote:
Been following him. He's dropped back a few spots but still running strong, just about to pass RM1000!    Freaking legendary. For sure he hasn't slept...

Been following him. He's dropped back a few spots but still running strong, just about to pass RM1000! 

 

Freaking legendary. For sure he hasn't slept since maybe Tuesday night. One of the coolest things about this though is how the entire off-road community is working together to get him to the finish since he has no chase crew. One of the coolest stories of this year's race for sure. 

sumdood wrote:
Sounds like he lost those spots because he got turned around was going the wrong way for awhile, what an animal. How about just buying a...

Sounds like he lost those spots because he got turned around was going the wrong way for awhile, what an animal. How about just buying a bike in San Diego and riding it to La Paz period. And then race 1300 miles (Longer after his detour) .  Respect. What a Badass !  

TriRacer27 wrote:
I really hope Vital, PulpMX, Gypsy Tales or someone gets an interview with this legend.  And you're right, looks like he got turned around at RM...

I really hope Vital, PulpMX, Gypsy Tales or someone gets an interview with this legend. 

And you're right, looks like he got turned around at RM 935 and backtracked all the way to 919 before correcting, so an extra 32 miles or so. He's averaging about 29 mph so, with stopping to check his map and maybe ask for directions, he easily lost about an hr there. 

 

Also, keep in mind, it's not like he bought a KTM 450 Rally that's fully prepped for this sort of thing. He's on what looks like a pretty clapped out old KTM with painted on numbers. Baja KTM

Yea, man. This has got to be a fantastic story than needs diving into. However he finishes, I hope he gets rewarded by industry folks.

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11/17/2023 3:59pm

Hope Kade is going to be okay. Good kid who literally lives to ride. 

NITRODOG wrote:
I reached out to Kade's dad (who lives in Toronto Canada ) via email and received this back at 12:50pm PST......... I woke up to the...

I reached out to Kade's dad (who lives in Toronto Canada ) via email and received this back at 12:50pm PST.........

I woke up to the news this morning. He crashed yesterday around 4 PM. He is in a coma but in stable condition. Right now he is at the hospital in San Diego. 

Scripps Mercy Hospital ICU trauma care unit.  Right now he is getting another scan.  We should know soon if the bleeding is under control. I will update you as soon as I know.  

Thank you, please keep us updated. 

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11/17/2023 8:00pm
LungButter wrote:

6+ hours to get medical help in the year 2023 is unacceptable.  SCORE needs to be better.  They should be fucking ashamed.

hartebreak wrote:
Isn't this literally the exact thing the KC66 foundation has been trying to work on? Not sure if more timely medical care would have saved Kurt...

Isn't this literally the exact thing the KC66 foundation has been trying to work on? Not sure if more timely medical care would have saved Kurt, but it might have... You're completely right. Score needs to address this lack of available medical help or stop running this race for bikes and quads.  Yes, I know these racers know the risk, yes they are aware of where they are racing but come on, can't these promoters partner with some medivac companies (air-med, lifeflight, wings of rescue etc. ) to have choppers stationed every 200 miles or a long the course ready to respond to a call?  Shit, many of the top $$$ teams run choppers to follow their driver/rider around for the sake of mechanical help, yet someone crashes and they have to rely on another racer to toss them into their race vehicle to get them closer to help. Wtf

These racers know the risk. That’s what makes Baja different from every other race.  I’ve done the race and knew what I was getting myself into, and I accepted it.  If I had the funds I’d go back every year.  It’s like nothing else I’ve ever done.  Yes it sucks that help is so far away, but it is what it is.  

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11/17/2023 8:47pm
Loftin79 wrote:
These racers know the risk. That’s what makes Baja different from every other race.  I’ve done the race and knew what I was getting myself into...

These racers know the risk. That’s what makes Baja different from every other race.  I’ve done the race and knew what I was getting myself into, and I accepted it.  If I had the funds I’d go back every year.  It’s like nothing else I’ve ever done.  Yes it sucks that help is so far away, but it is what it is.  

I don’t feel “they know what they are getting into” cuts it anymore. This ain’t the 90s. 
 

Its fucking life or death for the dudes at the pointy end. 
 

Time for SCORE to be better. We lost one of the best to ever do it without medical help there. This kid went 6 hours and the only thing that got him out was private teams making it happen. SCORE was nowhere to be found. 
 

If they can guarantee a helicopter gets to you quickly at Dakar they damn sure should be able to figure it out in Baja. 

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11/17/2023 9:02pm
Loftin79 wrote:
These racers know the risk. That’s what makes Baja different from every other race.  I’ve done the race and knew what I was getting myself into...

These racers know the risk. That’s what makes Baja different from every other race.  I’ve done the race and knew what I was getting myself into, and I accepted it.  If I had the funds I’d go back every year.  It’s like nothing else I’ve ever done.  Yes it sucks that help is so far away, but it is what it is.  

LungButter wrote:
I don’t feel “they know what they are getting into” cuts it anymore. This ain’t the 90s.    Its fucking life or death for the dudes...

I don’t feel “they know what they are getting into” cuts it anymore. This ain’t the 90s. 
 

Its fucking life or death for the dudes at the pointy end. 
 

Time for SCORE to be better. We lost one of the best to ever do it without medical help there. This kid went 6 hours and the only thing that got him out was private teams making it happen. SCORE was nowhere to be found. 
 

If they can guarantee a helicopter gets to you quickly at Dakar they damn sure should be able to figure it out in Baja. 

That would require Roger Norman to give a fuck about the bikes regardless.

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11/17/2023 9:11pm
TriRacer27 wrote:
Been following him. He's dropped back a few spots but still running strong, just about to pass RM1000!    Freaking legendary. For sure he hasn't slept...

Been following him. He's dropped back a few spots but still running strong, just about to pass RM1000! 

 

Freaking legendary. For sure he hasn't slept since maybe Tuesday night. One of the coolest things about this though is how the entire off-road community is working together to get him to the finish since he has no chase crew. One of the coolest stories of this year's race for sure. 

sumdood wrote:
Sounds like he lost those spots because he got turned around was going the wrong way for awhile, what an animal. How about just buying a...

Sounds like he lost those spots because he got turned around was going the wrong way for awhile, what an animal. How about just buying a bike in San Diego and riding it to La Paz period. And then race 1300 miles (Longer after his detour) .  Respect. What a Badass !  

TriRacer27 wrote:
I really hope Vital, PulpMX, Gypsy Tales or someone gets an interview with this legend.  And you're right, looks like he got turned around at RM...

I really hope Vital, PulpMX, Gypsy Tales or someone gets an interview with this legend. 

And you're right, looks like he got turned around at RM 935 and backtracked all the way to 919 before correcting, so an extra 32 miles or so. He's averaging about 29 mph so, with stopping to check his map and maybe ask for directions, he easily lost about an hr there. 

 

Also, keep in mind, it's not like he bought a KTM 450 Rally that's fully prepped for this sort of thing. He's on what looks like a pretty clapped out old KTM with painted on numbers. Baja KTM

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11/17/2023 9:32pm

Not looking good for Wouter. 60 miles left and three hours remaining. He’s having some front wheel problems. I hope he makes it!

11/17/2023 9:45pm

I read somewhere that he was able to get a front wheel, but can’t find the post 

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11/17/2023 9:55pm

I read somewhere that he was able to get a front wheel, but can’t find the post 

I was just reading he was almost to a Baja Pit. You’d think they’d have one. 

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11/17/2023 10:02pm

He has to be getting really close to the finish by now 

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11/17/2023 10:05pm

Race Mile 1,250 according to the tracker. 
 

62 miles to go. 

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11/17/2023 10:16pm
LungButter wrote:

Race Mile 1,250 according to the tracker. 
 

62 miles to go. 

His speed was 17 a few minutes ago, 22 now

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11/17/2023 10:20pm

I read somewhere that he was able to get a front wheel, but can’t find the post 

I’ve seen several posts now that he got one. 
 

I think it’s pretty slow speed and Rocky where he’s at right now. 

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11/17/2023 10:30pm

I read somewhere that he was able to get a front wheel, but can’t find the post 

LungButter wrote:

I’ve seen several posts now that he got one. 
 

I think it’s pretty slow speed and Rocky where he’s at right now. 

I couldn’t imagine how frustrating the more technical rocky stuff would be at this point. Completely depleted with zero sleep, I imagine any adrenaline he had has been long gone by now. I’m hoping for the best 👍

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11/17/2023 10:37pm
I couldn’t imagine how frustrating the more technical rocky stuff would be at this point. Completely depleted with zero sleep, I imagine any adrenaline he had...

I couldn’t imagine how frustrating the more technical rocky stuff would be at this point. Completely depleted with zero sleep, I imagine any adrenaline he had has been long gone by now. I’m hoping for the best 👍

Yeah. And a single led headlight. Hopefully there's a group he can settle in with. He's so close.

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Came across  this pic of his front tire zip tied on54DB8F5C-2C12-44BF-B8C8-D9976BA664A4

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11/17/2023 11:03pm

He's down to a couple of miles an hour again. We've got to get this guy across the finish line!

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