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11/16/2023 10:42am Edited Date/Time 11/16/2023 10:44am

So this happened to my kid earlier this year at Albany MX. No fists were thrown, but I did go talk to the kid and his "supervisor" later since his parents weren't there. Told him that we allow this one time (still not 100% sure if there was intent or if he just ran out of talent) but that if he did it again there would be consequences. He wouldn't look me in the eye, and didn't say much, but it hasn't happened again. Sorry no yellow shirts or anything, maybe next time. Smile

https://youtube.com/shorts/_kb_V74yBHg?feature=share

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11/16/2023 10:42am
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As far as the AA class getting protested, boy I could say some stuff.  lol Cliff notes: One AA rider decided to protest the entire AA...

As far as the AA class getting protested, boy I could say some stuff.  lol

Cliff notes: One AA rider decided to protest the entire AA line because the "AA" letters were less than 2" high which is what the rule book says they have to be. Jesses numbers were 1/16" too small so he was docked a lap. The protester was the 3rd place guy and he didn't even gain a position. The FTR Facebook page tore the protester up. The Team Wanker FB group didn't disappoint, they were absolutely brutal bringing up the protesters past.

Bottom line is there was an emergency rule change and most likely the protested riders will get their lap back. 

 

I GOT PROTESTED! (Florida Trail Riders) - YouTube

LungButter wrote:

Wait a minute....so Edmisten was the protester!?!  Whoa.... douche move.  He posts here, hopefully he sees this. 

I should have said "allegedly," I didn't expect anyone to look up the results. 

Hahaha

Yes, it's a douche move. 

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11/16/2023 10:46am

As mad as everyone got about Deegan kicking his bike I would think this bike kick alone is a vital felony. 

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It’s not even a “mini”…. Kid can handle his own business.  But surprised the fat dad didn’t get popped in the nose at least once after...

It’s not even a “mini”…. Kid can handle his own business.  But surprised the fat dad didn’t get popped in the nose at least once after that.

sumdood wrote:
Picture that guy doing that to your 15 year old kid, my first instinct would be a full on haymaker uppercut, no questions asked, no conversation...

Picture that guy doing that to your 15 year old kid, my first instinct would be a full on haymaker uppercut, no questions asked, no conversation just ker-fucking-blam whammo full assault mode.  Not saying that's right, obviously it's quite the opposite, but...... if it was your kid, in the heat of the moment yeah I'm surprised no one tried to separate his head from his body, they're kids....  

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"ker-fucking-blam whammo" Somebody Photoshop that into a 1970s Batman starburst for me. 

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"ker-fucking-blam whammo"

Somebody Photoshop that into a 1970s Batman starburst for me. 

hahaha that'd be an edit to see, add the symbol and horn sound section effects too,   maybe a car crash noise when he first kicks the kids bike # BIFF !!  Laughing  

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11/16/2023 11:23am
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I believe the kid is Kenyon Ortiz, from Sacramento?

He is not fron Sacramento,as Mexican my self i am a shame of these guys,send them back to Mexico

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11/16/2023 11:24am
So this happened to my kid earlier this year at Albany MX. No fists were thrown, but I did go talk to the kid and his...

So this happened to my kid earlier this year at Albany MX. No fists were thrown, but I did go talk to the kid and his "supervisor" later since his parents weren't there. Told him that we allow this one time (still not 100% sure if there was intent or if he just ran out of talent) but that if he did it again there would be consequences. He wouldn't look me in the eye, and didn't say much, but it hasn't happened again. Sorry no yellow shirts or anything, maybe next time. Smile

https://youtube.com/shorts/_kb_V74yBHg?feature=share

You threw a fit about a 9mph racing incident in c class? Sheesh. Def need a yellow shirt next time, or there will be consequences!

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11/16/2023 11:27am
So this happened to my kid earlier this year at Albany MX. No fists were thrown, but I did go talk to the kid and his...

So this happened to my kid earlier this year at Albany MX. No fists were thrown, but I did go talk to the kid and his "supervisor" later since his parents weren't there. Told him that we allow this one time (still not 100% sure if there was intent or if he just ran out of talent) but that if he did it again there would be consequences. He wouldn't look me in the eye, and didn't say much, but it hasn't happened again. Sorry no yellow shirts or anything, maybe next time. Smile

https://youtube.com/shorts/_kb_V74yBHg?feature=share

You  threatened someone elses kid  with "consequences" over a racing incident and just admitted it publicly on this forum?     A racing incident that looked pretty benign to me.    You should be banned from the track for that. 

 

Regardless of what happens between kids on the track, there should be zero tolerance for parents going after a kid....verbal threats or physical contact (kid or bike).    

 

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11/16/2023 11:31am
So this happened to my kid earlier this year at Albany MX. No fists were thrown, but I did go talk to the kid and his...

So this happened to my kid earlier this year at Albany MX. No fists were thrown, but I did go talk to the kid and his "supervisor" later since his parents weren't there. Told him that we allow this one time (still not 100% sure if there was intent or if he just ran out of talent) but that if he did it again there would be consequences. He wouldn't look me in the eye, and didn't say much, but it hasn't happened again. Sorry no yellow shirts or anything, maybe next time. Smile

https://youtube.com/shorts/_kb_V74yBHg?feature=share

You threw a fit about a 9mph racing incident in c class? Sheesh. Def need a yellow shirt next time, or there will be consequences!

Didn't throw a fit. Saw it as an educational moment for a young rider. That was it. No threats were made in any form. It's C class, and riders make mistakes all over the place. Best to learn from them and not repeat them. Sheesh, drama much? 

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11/16/2023 11:34am Edited Date/Time 11/16/2023 11:36am
So this happened to my kid earlier this year at Albany MX. No fists were thrown, but I did go talk to the kid and his...

So this happened to my kid earlier this year at Albany MX. No fists were thrown, but I did go talk to the kid and his "supervisor" later since his parents weren't there. Told him that we allow this one time (still not 100% sure if there was intent or if he just ran out of talent) but that if he did it again there would be consequences. He wouldn't look me in the eye, and didn't say much, but it hasn't happened again. Sorry no yellow shirts or anything, maybe next time. Smile

https://youtube.com/shorts/_kb_V74yBHg?feature=share

Magoofan wrote:
You  threatened someone elses kid  with "consequences" over a racing incident and just admitted it publicly on this forum?     A racing incident that looked pretty...

You  threatened someone elses kid  with "consequences" over a racing incident and just admitted it publicly on this forum?     A racing incident that looked pretty benign to me.    You should be banned from the track for that. 

 

Regardless of what happens between kids on the track, there should be zero tolerance for parents going after a kid....verbal threats or physical contact (kid or bike).    

 

Drama round 2. If you raced in the PNW you'd know the reputation I and my son have at the tracks. Every mistake has consequences - welcome to life. In this case the consequence was a short discussion about avoiding unnecessary contact when you can. The next step should it happen again with the same rider would be a formal complaint to the Race Director. That's a consequence too. 

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Not sure if anyone on here remembers "Wirehead" Jones from TN in the 90's. He was fast "vet" pro ,before there were any Vet classes. He just raced A class all the time and did pretty damn good as a 40 YO at the time. Then one day at track in Madison County NC, a fast 15 yo kid on a YZ125 lined up against wirehead in the first pro moto. Wirehead got the holeshot and a battle ensued. About 4 laps in , the kid passed wirehead, but took out his front tire in the process. Jones went down but immediately was back up on the bike and in HOT pursuit, Dukes Of Hazzard style. He never caught the kid by the checkered flag. After the moto, we all thought Jones was coming up to the kid to say nice job. Instead , he ripped the goggles off the kids helmet and punched him twice in the face, bloodying the kids nose. Then he just walked off to his truck and went about his business. NOTHING was done about it. He wasnt even disqualified ,nor any charges pressed. It would be hard not to shoot a mfkr that did that to my kid at a track back then. But i was still a kid myself. Wirehead was even allowed to ride the 2nd moto. Of course the kid couldnt continue, probably had a broken nose. This was shit wirehead had done many times as far as taking people out to pass. Happened all the time in that era. But , he didnt like it when someone did it to him. 

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So this happened to my kid earlier this year at Albany MX. No fists were thrown, but I did go talk to the kid and his...

So this happened to my kid earlier this year at Albany MX. No fists were thrown, but I did go talk to the kid and his "supervisor" later since his parents weren't there. Told him that we allow this one time (still not 100% sure if there was intent or if he just ran out of talent) but that if he did it again there would be consequences. He wouldn't look me in the eye, and didn't say much, but it hasn't happened again. Sorry no yellow shirts or anything, maybe next time. Smile

https://youtube.com/shorts/_kb_V74yBHg?feature=share

This video makes it look like the kid on the outside came to a complete stop in the corner, lost his balance, and cut down the middle.

Screenshot 2023-11-16 162211

 

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11/16/2023 1:33pm
So this happened to my kid earlier this year at Albany MX. No fists were thrown, but I did go talk to the kid and his...

So this happened to my kid earlier this year at Albany MX. No fists were thrown, but I did go talk to the kid and his "supervisor" later since his parents weren't there. Told him that we allow this one time (still not 100% sure if there was intent or if he just ran out of talent) but that if he did it again there would be consequences. He wouldn't look me in the eye, and didn't say much, but it hasn't happened again. Sorry no yellow shirts or anything, maybe next time. Smile

https://youtube.com/shorts/_kb_V74yBHg?feature=share

Magoofan wrote:
You  threatened someone elses kid  with "consequences" over a racing incident and just admitted it publicly on this forum?     A racing incident that looked pretty...

You  threatened someone elses kid  with "consequences" over a racing incident and just admitted it publicly on this forum?     A racing incident that looked pretty benign to me.    You should be banned from the track for that. 

 

Regardless of what happens between kids on the track, there should be zero tolerance for parents going after a kid....verbal threats or physical contact (kid or bike).    

 

Drama round 2. If you raced in the PNW you'd know the reputation I and my son have at the tracks. Every mistake has consequences -...

Drama round 2. If you raced in the PNW you'd know the reputation I and my son have at the tracks. Every mistake has consequences - welcome to life. In this case the consequence was a short discussion about avoiding unnecessary contact when you can. The next step should it happen again with the same rider would be a formal complaint to the Race Director. That's a consequence too. 

I can't be the only one that sees the hole you're digging getting deeper.     "Reputation" ---- "Every mistake has consequences" ----"short discussion"    

Just wow....     Please....carry on hanging yourself. 

I sure as hell I'm glad my dad didn't run over to other peoples pits every time some kid took me out (on purpose or by accident).

 

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11/16/2023 1:36pm
Magoofan wrote:
I can't be the only one that sees the hole you're digging getting deeper.     "Reputation" ---- "Every mistake has consequences" ----"short discussion"    ...

I can't be the only one that sees the hole you're digging getting deeper.     "Reputation" ---- "Every mistake has consequences" ----"short discussion"    

Just wow....     Please....carry on hanging yourself. 

I sure as hell I'm glad my dad didn't run over to other peoples pits every time some kid took me out (on purpose or by accident).

 

I'm gonna guess you got taken out a lot, your Dad woulda been busy.

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11/16/2023 1:44pm

A lot of people in that video, including the assailant, have put on a few hundred "off season" pounds.

My favorite part of these vids is when the yoked bald guy shows up and forces everyone to calm down or suffer the consequences.

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So this happened to my kid earlier this year at Albany MX. No fists were thrown, but I did go talk to the kid and his...

So this happened to my kid earlier this year at Albany MX. No fists were thrown, but I did go talk to the kid and his "supervisor" later since his parents weren't there. Told him that we allow this one time (still not 100% sure if there was intent or if he just ran out of talent) but that if he did it again there would be consequences. He wouldn't look me in the eye, and didn't say much, but it hasn't happened again. Sorry no yellow shirts or anything, maybe next time. Smile

https://youtube.com/shorts/_kb_V74yBHg?feature=share

Magoofan wrote:
You  threatened someone elses kid  with "consequences" over a racing incident and just admitted it publicly on this forum?     A racing incident that looked pretty...

You  threatened someone elses kid  with "consequences" over a racing incident and just admitted it publicly on this forum?     A racing incident that looked pretty benign to me.    You should be banned from the track for that. 

 

Regardless of what happens between kids on the track, there should be zero tolerance for parents going after a kid....verbal threats or physical contact (kid or bike).    

 

Drama round 2. If you raced in the PNW you'd know the reputation I and my son have at the tracks. Every mistake has consequences -...

Drama round 2. If you raced in the PNW you'd know the reputation I and my son have at the tracks. Every mistake has consequences - welcome to life. In this case the consequence was a short discussion about avoiding unnecessary contact when you can. The next step should it happen again with the same rider would be a formal complaint to the Race Director. That's a consequence too. 

I race in the PNW and know no such thing

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11/16/2023 2:30pm

I race in the PNW and know no such thing

PacWest, PiR, Classic 7, Woodland Winter series, Fall Triple Crown. We race them all, over 130 gate drops this year. You can find us easily. Stop by and say hello.

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C-Class riders in more than just speed. 

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11/16/2023 2:39pm Edited Date/Time 11/16/2023 2:41pm
So this happened to my kid earlier this year at Albany MX. No fists were thrown, but I did go talk to the kid and his...

So this happened to my kid earlier this year at Albany MX. No fists were thrown, but I did go talk to the kid and his "supervisor" later since his parents weren't there. Told him that we allow this one time (still not 100% sure if there was intent or if he just ran out of talent) but that if he did it again there would be consequences. He wouldn't look me in the eye, and didn't say much, but it hasn't happened again. Sorry no yellow shirts or anything, maybe next time. Smile

https://youtube.com/shorts/_kb_V74yBHg?feature=share

Magoofan wrote:
You  threatened someone elses kid  with "consequences" over a racing incident and just admitted it publicly on this forum?     A racing incident that looked pretty...

You  threatened someone elses kid  with "consequences" over a racing incident and just admitted it publicly on this forum?     A racing incident that looked pretty benign to me.    You should be banned from the track for that. 

 

Regardless of what happens between kids on the track, there should be zero tolerance for parents going after a kid....verbal threats or physical contact (kid or bike).    

 

Drama round 2. If you raced in the PNW you'd know the reputation I and my son have at the tracks. Every mistake has consequences -...

Drama round 2. If you raced in the PNW you'd know the reputation I and my son have at the tracks. Every mistake has consequences - welcome to life. In this case the consequence was a short discussion about avoiding unnecessary contact when you can. The next step should it happen again with the same rider would be a formal complaint to the Race Director. That's a consequence too. 

Not trying to be a dick and I don't know you from any other random guy, but man if I operate a track, everyone's fees are the same come race day.  If the race officials don't deem the on-track action worthy of penalty, I'd be damned if I'm going to penalize another rider because another rider's daddy gets upset. And in all honesty, if you think your "reputation" means that people will listen to what you have to say and you're willing to leverage that, I'm not sure that's the coolest. 

And watching the video, you should teach your son to protect the inside when he's racing. I ain't the fastest but even on practice days I protect the inside because I don't need some practice track pro block passing me. 

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11/16/2023 2:45pm Edited Date/Time 11/16/2023 2:46pm

I race in the PNW and know no such thing

PacWest, PiR, Classic 7, Woodland Winter series, Fall Triple Crown. We race them all, over 130 gate drops this year. You can find us easily. Stop...

PacWest, PiR, Classic 7, Woodland Winter series, Fall Triple Crown. We race them all, over 130 gate drops this year. You can find us easily. Stop by and say hello.

Only time I see any real heated flare ups in the PNW is at the WHR arenacross rounds lmao

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11/16/2023 2:49pm
Magoofan wrote:
You  threatened someone elses kid  with "consequences" over a racing incident and just admitted it publicly on this forum?     A racing incident that looked pretty...

You  threatened someone elses kid  with "consequences" over a racing incident and just admitted it publicly on this forum?     A racing incident that looked pretty benign to me.    You should be banned from the track for that. 

 

Regardless of what happens between kids on the track, there should be zero tolerance for parents going after a kid....verbal threats or physical contact (kid or bike).    

 

Drama round 2. If you raced in the PNW you'd know the reputation I and my son have at the tracks. Every mistake has consequences -...

Drama round 2. If you raced in the PNW you'd know the reputation I and my son have at the tracks. Every mistake has consequences - welcome to life. In this case the consequence was a short discussion about avoiding unnecessary contact when you can. The next step should it happen again with the same rider would be a formal complaint to the Race Director. That's a consequence too. 

Not trying to be a dick and I don't know you from any other random guy, but man if I operate a track, everyone's fees are...

Not trying to be a dick and I don't know you from any other random guy, but man if I operate a track, everyone's fees are the same come race day.  If the race officials don't deem the on-track action worthy of penalty, I'd be damned if I'm going to penalize another rider because another rider's daddy gets upset. And in all honesty, if you think your "reputation" means that people will listen to what you have to say and you're willing to leverage that, I'm not sure that's the coolest. 

And watching the video, you should teach your son to protect the inside when he's racing. I ain't the fastest but even on practice days I protect the inside because I don't need some practice track pro block passing me. 

Oh yeah, mine learned a lesson too. He left the door open through bad race craft and paid a price. He doesn't do that anymore. These are all kids trying to learn. I guess the point I was trying to make is that there are other ways to deal with the inevitable contact besides going ballistic on a kid. Even if the contact is flagrant and intentional you can't go after a kid. And if you punch out his Dad you set yourself up for an assault charge. We just race for fun, and we always keep that in mind.

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11/16/2023 3:03pm

I'm thinking everybody is forgetting this is a contact sport always has been. You can't T-Bone somebody from behind but if you have a front wheel on somebody all is good🤷‍♂️

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So this happened to my kid earlier this year at Albany MX. No fists were thrown, but I did go talk to the kid and his...

So this happened to my kid earlier this year at Albany MX. No fists were thrown, but I did go talk to the kid and his "supervisor" later since his parents weren't there. Told him that we allow this one time (still not 100% sure if there was intent or if he just ran out of talent) but that if he did it again there would be consequences. He wouldn't look me in the eye, and didn't say much, but it hasn't happened again. Sorry no yellow shirts or anything, maybe next time. Smile

https://youtube.com/shorts/_kb_V74yBHg?feature=share

Magoofan wrote:
You  threatened someone elses kid  with "consequences" over a racing incident and just admitted it publicly on this forum?     A racing incident that looked pretty...

You  threatened someone elses kid  with "consequences" over a racing incident and just admitted it publicly on this forum?     A racing incident that looked pretty benign to me.    You should be banned from the track for that. 

 

Regardless of what happens between kids on the track, there should be zero tolerance for parents going after a kid....verbal threats or physical contact (kid or bike).    

 

Drama round 2. If you raced in the PNW you'd know the reputation I and my son have at the tracks. Every mistake has consequences -...

Drama round 2. If you raced in the PNW you'd know the reputation I and my son have at the tracks. Every mistake has consequences - welcome to life. In this case the consequence was a short discussion about avoiding unnecessary contact when you can. The next step should it happen again with the same rider would be a formal complaint to the Race Director. That's a consequence too. 

🤦‍♂️

Best chill if ever think your son has a chance to do something, even locally. Parents around these parts have cost their kids support due to actions when they raced or how they acted in the pits. That stuff sticks with you…

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I race in the PNW and know no such thing

PacWest, PiR, Classic 7, Woodland Winter series, Fall Triple Crown. We race them all, over 130 gate drops this year. You can find us easily. Stop...

PacWest, PiR, Classic 7, Woodland Winter series, Fall Triple Crown. We race them all, over 130 gate drops this year. You can find us easily. Stop by and say hello.

Only time I see any real heated flare ups in the PNW is at the WHR arenacross rounds lmao

Best fight I ever saw was between two dads at a Monroe AX around 1993 or so. Intermediate 1 takes out Intermediate 2. 2’s dad throws dirt on 1 next time around. 1’s dad then haymakers dad 2. 1 and 2 pull off track after checkers, look at both dads in a pile in the dirt punching each other, shake their heads, and continue into the pits.Laughing

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11/16/2023 3:53pm Edited Date/Time 11/16/2023 3:55pm

Dad didn’t fight my battles for me. Instead, my instructions were the same as school-don’t ever start a fight, but if someone bring it to you, kick their ass. In school, it was literally. On the track, it meant finding that person and putting them over a berm hard enough they never pulled that shit again. 
 

Im pretty tolerant of aggressive racing. But cross-jump me or ride dirty on purpose (when you had a clean option instead) and you’ll get a close look at the backside grooming of the berm.

Oh, regarding the video…all I’ll say is that I bet everyone in it flies Spirit Airlines…

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11/16/2023 3:54pm

You know you aren't much of a man when the women and children have to step in to do your fighting for you.

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Why,  would you insult beach volleyball like that?

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