Wsx Abu Dhabi thoughts ?

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11/4/2023 1:53pm
8500rpm wrote:
Hahaha Was that a race in the local hockey rink? Cannot have been larger :) Arena cross, parking lot cross, WSX... apprarently the same. Btw, what...

Hahaha

Was that a race in the local hockey rink? Cannot have been larger Smile

Arena cross, parking lot cross, WSX... apprarently the same. Btw, what If you paid Kenny a large sum to jump a few jumps in a hotel parkinglot when the Singapore F1 is there? Some brrap braap so those who are not interested in F1 could watch dirt jumping? There is a lot of money in Singapore!

Even if I live in Sweden, SX, SMX all the way, they at least choose stadiums and large theathers.

Max and Kenny must be super proud, running the premier series in the premier stadiums...

Edit: to be fair, didn't watch much, when I saw it was tight arena cross I turned it off... maybe it was a great show after all...who knows.

Over & out!

Kenny should be seriously rethinking his involvement in this shite. 

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11/4/2023 2:11pm
Friese needs to be dq’d from the series. It is entertaining but man he is such a hazard out there. Savatgy trying to reason with the...

Friese needs to be dq’d from the series. It is entertaining but man he is such a hazard out there. Savatgy trying to reason with the guy after the race is completely futile, the guy has shown us 100x he doesn’t care.

lostboy819 wrote:
Friese is the only thing the series has going for it now. Looks like the big fish in the small pond ,Kroc is just another guppie...

Friese is the only thing the series has going for it now. Looks like the big fish in the small pond ,Kroc is just another guppie at least at this race. 

You do have a point. I’m more keen on watching a the Australia round now that there’s more drama 😂

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11/4/2023 2:21pm
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Check this out

 

Raikzz wrote:

Who the fook is that guy?

Who the fook are you? DP has depth in the industry, racing, and managing. Odd comment for an outsider and/or new subscriber.

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11/4/2023 2:32pm
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Best online comment I read today: "I'd really like to hear what Reed would have to say about that shit show if he wasn't paid to...

Best online comment I read today: "I'd really like to hear what Reed would have to say about that shit show if he wasn't paid to say it's great".

Pure gold.

Laughing

Motofinne wrote:
This whole Reed & WSX relationship is funny at this point. I can only imagine how harsh he would be on them if he wouldn't be...

This whole Reed & WSX relationship is funny at this point. I can only imagine how harsh he would be on them if he wouldn't be on the pay roll.

Great example that money rules. Considering that Chad is known for being one of the most outspoken and no fucks given type of guys in the whole industry.

Herr Lich wrote:

This is doing nothing for Reed's reputation.  Why would anyone be a paid shill for WSX when they have as much money as he does? 

Reed lives for attention.No longer racing he has his kid and this circus to keep him feeling relevant. Although most of us are losing respect. 

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11/4/2023 2:34pm

Man, I felt bad for Kenny, Joey, And Deano. That dude was jumping left to right in the rhythms and crossing all over the place. Not a good thing on a very tight one lined track 

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11/4/2023 2:54pm
Crush wrote:

Did the broadcast just end like that. Crikey.

RACING wrote:

Still going on.

Must have been a different broadcast for 7+

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11/4/2023 2:56pm

Ok.. This is hilarious

 

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11/4/2023 3:12pm
Motofinne wrote:
This whole Reed & WSX relationship is funny at this point. I can only imagine how harsh he would be on them if he wouldn't be...

This whole Reed & WSX relationship is funny at this point. I can only imagine how harsh he would be on them if he wouldn't be on the pay roll.

Great example that money rules. Considering that Chad is known for being one of the most outspoken and no fucks given type of guys in the whole industry.

Herr Lich wrote:

This is doing nothing for Reed's reputation.  Why would anyone be a paid shill for WSX when they have as much money as he does? 

Reed lives for attention.No longer racing he has his kid and this circus to keep him feeling relevant. Although most of us are losing respect. 

I think Reed lives for an Income, just like all of us.

Would you bleed WSX if they paid you? I would.

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11/4/2023 3:39pm
Motofinne wrote:
This whole Reed & WSX relationship is funny at this point. I can only imagine how harsh he would be on them if he wouldn't be...

This whole Reed & WSX relationship is funny at this point. I can only imagine how harsh he would be on them if he wouldn't be on the pay roll.

Great example that money rules. Considering that Chad is known for being one of the most outspoken and no fucks given type of guys in the whole industry.

Herr Lich wrote:

This is doing nothing for Reed's reputation.  Why would anyone be a paid shill for WSX when they have as much money as he does? 

Reed lives for attention.No longer racing he has his kid and this circus to keep him feeling relevant. Although most of us are losing respect. 

"most of us"

Who? Your gang? Lol...

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11/4/2023 3:40pm

Justin Brayton...."You want people to take it serious? Good luck"

RWR wasn't going to show up and made their decision to come last Sunday night...

Throwing a checkered flag to the wrong rider...

Sub par and unreliable equipment to build the track with, they were down to one skid steer that worked...

The FIM either unwilling to or unable to handle Friese....they did nothing last year and what he did today at the very least should have been met with a penalty...

Riders complaining that by only having three races cut what they could make in half...

Not one rider had anything good to say about the track, track prep and organization...not one.

Adam Bailey and the FIM have had enough time and races to work these bugs out and it continually gets worse, the riders are fed up, the teams are fed up, it's evident that Bailey and the FIM are the issue and have no idea what they are doing and in the end will fail and that's too bad as the real losers are the riders....

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11/4/2023 3:46pm Edited Date/Time 11/4/2023 3:49pm
Herr Lich wrote:

This is doing nothing for Reed's reputation.  Why would anyone be a paid shill for WSX when they have as much money as he does? 

Reed lives for attention.No longer racing he has his kid and this circus to keep him feeling relevant. Although most of us are losing respect. 

I think Reed lives for an Income, just like all of us.

Would you bleed WSX if they paid you? I would.

Everyone needs to remember that Reed’s indoor experience comes from tracks even smaller than this. There’s no doubt it’d be nostalgic for him. It is for me, takes me straight back to the Aussie Supercross Masters of the 80’s and 90’s, that were very entertaining just like this.

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11/4/2023 3:48pm

It’s hard to knock anyone that loves dirt bike racing and wants to dump money into the sport but I think they went the exact opposite direction I would’ve. We need a good feeder series for these kids. We have kids from around the world drooling to race American sx, take this series make it 250 only and get the best amateur talent from around the world to get their feet wet racing sx. Maybe give them an opportunity to race some pros from different countries that could be wildcards..kids can do the U.S amateur/Loretta’s and emx in Europe and do WSX. Every series can promote each other in a positive way. Watching this was disappointing, it’s not a good representation of what this sport is at all and hard to bare any new fans getting the wrong impression based off of what we all watched. Friese made it entertaining in the worst way. We should be entertained by good hard fought racing not a rode block that treats everyone like a ping pong ball. 

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11/4/2023 3:52pm
Id rather watch 20 laps of 35 second lap times in our U.S SX series than ever follow this series start to finish. It absolutely sucks...

Id rather watch 20 laps of 35 second lap times in our U.S SX series than ever follow this series start to finish. It absolutely sucks. Format, production, tracks. Absolutely horrible. 

Careful man...you'll get labeled a "floppa" for that kind of lanquage.

 

What is a floppa anyway?

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11/4/2023 3:54pm Edited Date/Time 11/4/2023 4:09pm
Herr Lich wrote:

This is doing nothing for Reed's reputation.  Why would anyone be a paid shill for WSX when they have as much money as he does? 

Reed lives for attention.No longer racing he has his kid and this circus to keep him feeling relevant. Although most of us are losing respect. 

I think Reed lives for an Income, just like all of us.

Would you bleed WSX if they paid you? I would.

Seriously, no joke....Reed does have a mind bending amount of money. Not just because of his racing career but he was a part owner of the because Australian SX series. One smart dude!

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11/4/2023 3:55pm
Friese needs to be dq’d from the series. It is entertaining but man he is such a hazard out there. Savatgy trying to reason with the...

Friese needs to be dq’d from the series. It is entertaining but man he is such a hazard out there. Savatgy trying to reason with the guy after the race is completely futile, the guy has shown us 100x he doesn’t care.

DQ'd?    Ain't gonna happen.   They NEED Friese to bring in the "carnage" viewers...bilk em for food/beer/drinks and send them on their way.    

It's like the old smash-up derby races mentality....people came to see carnage.      It's a joke. 

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Id rather watch 20 laps of 35 second lap times in our U.S SX series than ever follow this series start to finish. It absolutely sucks...

Id rather watch 20 laps of 35 second lap times in our U.S SX series than ever follow this series start to finish. It absolutely sucks. Format, production, tracks. Absolutely horrible. 

Magoofan wrote:

Careful man...you'll get labeled a "floppa" for that kind of lanquage.

 

What is a floppa anyway?

Australian slang for "flaccid penis." Ay mate, you betta watch out before I whack you with my floppa

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11/4/2023 4:15pm

I think Vince should have been black flagged in race 3 after Savatgy block passed him and Vince proceeded ride beside the track and reenter in front of Joey.    That move by Vince is against the rules and he affected the rest of the race with it.  Should have shown him the black flag.  What a hokey ordeal. 

The rough riding and everything is what it is.   These guys let Vince get away with it so whatever, but that move in race 3 was the equivalent of tackling a guy in football and then he just gets up and runs for a touchdown and everyone acts like they didn't see it.  

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11/4/2023 4:33pm
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Ya know.   This will be unpopular (shocking coming from me, right?) ...but I have no problem with that move.     I don't mind dirty racing as long as someone isn't trying to injure someone.     

Old school baby.     Friese has heart...in it to win it....even if it was a mini-cycle track. 

 

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Magoofan wrote:
Ya know.   This will be unpopular (shocking coming from me, right?) ...but I have no problem with that move.     I don't mind dirty racing as...

Ya know.   This will be unpopular (shocking coming from me, right?) ...but I have no problem with that move.     I don't mind dirty racing as long as someone isn't trying to injure someone.     

Old school baby.     Friese has heart...in it to win it....even if it was a mini-cycle track. 

 

Some people have never watched 80's supercross and it shows. 

Funny how when Barcia does ir, its ok cos , you know , 'Bam Bam'

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11/4/2023 5:03pm
Magoofan wrote:
Ya know.   This will be unpopular (shocking coming from me, right?) ...but I have no problem with that move.     I don't mind dirty racing as...

Ya know.   This will be unpopular (shocking coming from me, right?) ...but I have no problem with that move.     I don't mind dirty racing as long as someone isn't trying to injure someone.     

Old school baby.     Friese has heart...in it to win it....even if it was a mini-cycle track. 

 

philG wrote:

Some people have never watched 80's supercross and it shows. 

Funny how when Barcia does ir, its ok cos , you know , 'Bam Bam'

Even Deano said that move was fine. It’s the cross jumping/purposely slowing down and not racing forward that deserves a penalty. F1 drivers would be fined for racing that way. It’s just dangerous and puts every rider around him at risk. And while he was “playing games” with the riders behind him, Kenny walked away in the lead. Isn’t the point of racing to win? Seems WSX is more interested in carnage than running a legitimate race series. 

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11/4/2023 5:17pm
Magoofan wrote:
Ya know.   This will be unpopular (shocking coming from me, right?) ...but I have no problem with that move.     I don't mind dirty racing as...

Ya know.   This will be unpopular (shocking coming from me, right?) ...but I have no problem with that move.     I don't mind dirty racing as long as someone isn't trying to injure someone.     

Old school baby.     Friese has heart...in it to win it....even if it was a mini-cycle track. 

 

philG wrote:

Some people have never watched 80's supercross and it shows. 

Funny how when Barcia does ir, its ok cos , you know , 'Bam Bam'

Even Deano said that move was fine. It’s the cross jumping/purposely slowing down and not racing forward that deserves a penalty. F1 drivers would be fined...

Even Deano said that move was fine. It’s the cross jumping/purposely slowing down and not racing forward that deserves a penalty. F1 drivers would be fined for racing that way. It’s just dangerous and puts every rider around him at risk. And while he was “playing games” with the riders behind him, Kenny walked away in the lead. Isn’t the point of racing to win? Seems WSX is more interested in carnage than running a legitimate race series. 

Agree the Wilson move was not over the line, but the cross jumping, constant brake checking and the re-entry after Savatgy hit him were.

Friese definitely played the villain role that they promoted, however not addressing his riding last night would be unacceptable. Be interested to know whether it was dealt with or not?

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11/4/2023 5:21pm

Next round will be a larger track and I believe it fits this format. However, last night's track/stadium does not fit this format. Too many bikes on a tight track/stadium.

Going to different countries with SX you will not always have access to large stadiums so why not change the format so that it fits the size of the track better.

Ie: have more heats less riders in each heat for small tracks then visit a country with a large stadium go back to the normal format.

Have the formats tailored for each venue and release it at the start of the year what countries/venues will have what race formats.

Last night's first lap in every race saw riders on the floor and was just mayhem!

I'm a believer in this series, it has a spot in out sport just need to get some things right, will take time but it will get there!

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11/4/2023 5:27pm

It was worth the $8 I spent to watch it, will do the same for the last round. 

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11/4/2023 5:27pm
soyMotero wrote:
C'mon guys, we need Vince Friese on the series, the more evil the villain is, the better the movie is, we need to create storylines, like...

C'mon guys, we need Vince Friese on the series, the more evil the villain is, the better the movie is, we need to create storylines, like the UFC dude!

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Seriously, a series that uses "Carnage" as a way to promete the event (See Maverick post a few pages back) in a Sport where injuries (And serious injuries) are commonplace is tasteless, guys like Friese are a hazard and shouldn't be allowed to race proffesionally unless he decides to race clean without putting the rest of the riders in danger, but well, that way he wouldn't be the "supervillian" the series wants him to be.

The AMA has literally promoted carnage like all sports for many years, every season promotion campaign uses footage of crashes and take outs.

 

No different to stick and ball sports, they use the same tactics showing footage of illegal moves and hits as promotion. 

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11/4/2023 5:45pm
soyMotero wrote:
C'mon guys, we need Vince Friese on the series, the more evil the villain is, the better the movie is, we need to create storylines, like...

C'mon guys, we need Vince Friese on the series, the more evil the villain is, the better the movie is, we need to create storylines, like the UFC dude!

Screenshot 20231104-194713 X

Seriously, a series that uses "Carnage" as a way to promete the event (See Maverick post a few pages back) in a Sport where injuries (And serious injuries) are commonplace is tasteless, guys like Friese are a hazard and shouldn't be allowed to race proffesionally unless he decides to race clean without putting the rest of the riders in danger, but well, that way he wouldn't be the "supervillian" the series wants him to be.

The AMA has literally promoted carnage like all sports for many years, every season promotion campaign uses footage of crashes and take outs.   No different...

The AMA has literally promoted carnage like all sports for many years, every season promotion campaign uses footage of crashes and take outs.

 

No different to stick and ball sports, they use the same tactics showing footage of illegal moves and hits as promotion. 

The AMA has not used anything to promote carnage, they are not the promoter…

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11/4/2023 5:57pm

Friese’s pass wasn’t that bad. He was swerving all over the place trying to block and looked like a goon but that pass was fine. It was an arenacross sized track so you’re going to get arenacross style passes. 

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11/4/2023 6:43pm

The racing was entertaining in the same way that a FailArmy video is entertaining, and because dirtbikes are just generally entertaining.

Honestly, I don’t see how WSX’s reputation could fall any further than it is right now. They have failed on so many promises, made so many bad decisions that I think it will be almost impossible to recover it. 
 

Even just this weekend, the track was atrocious, it was an AX track at best, and it wasn’t a good one. They’ve said that they’ve cut venues as they aren’t up to standard and then go to this one that isn’t fit for purpose at all. There’s not enough room to build a start that can fit all your riders on, so you have to have two rows. Luckily Kenny is elite so he managed to salvage enough that he still has a chance to win the title. McElrath came in as points leader and now has virtually no chance of the title as he had a bad heat race and he may as well have gone home after that. 
 

They cut the night show down to basically 25 mins of racing in each class, why? They have heats and Superpole in front of no fans and not on the main broadcast, really? Can’t even show the chequered flag to the right guy. And that’s just today. These guys are completely and utterly inept. They had the brass to come in and try and take on a series structure that has been around for 50+ years and what they have delivered has been a complete and utter embarrassment 

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11/4/2023 6:49pm

Whatever they're paying Friese isn't enough, he should be flying out with a heavier suitcase.  

Pretty good race, I liked the first 2 mains back to back then the 3rd main for 250s and 450s, that was an exciting program order. 

Tight track was ridiculously 1-lined for better or worse, but it made for some good racing with Kenny starting from the back. Put Kenny on pole and it's alot different night.

Kinda fun to see these guys go at it on basically an arenacross track.

 

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