What would you get?

R-acer
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1/14/2010 2:41am
R-acer wrote:
again, completely disagree with you, from My experience.... but great that they work for you. The one and only one thing i will agree on is...
again, completely disagree with you, from My experience.... but great that they work for you.
The one and only one thing i will agree on is the brakes...and thats probably becasuse it's NOT KTM brakes, its Brembo.

I also HATED the hydrolic clutch....

I'll never buy another one..ever!
TheWeapon wrote:
That's interesting! What didn't you like about the clutch? My only issue with it was that if I really abused it (I did a few enduro's...
That's interesting!

What didn't you like about the clutch? My only issue with it was that if I really abused it (I did a few enduro's and cross country events), then it would fade a little. I did bleed mine quite often as well. I preferred it to the hydraulic clutch I had on my TMs.

The only issues I had with the KTMs I owned were fork seals on my '98 250exc (on those big 50mm forks) and I broke two back wheels racing mx. Other than that, the KTMs were bulletproof.
The hydraulic clutch felt a little rubbery, and lacked "feel", even after bleeding them to make sure there was no air in it.
I found that the cable has a much more precise feel, when compared to the hydraulic set up. The cable set up also has the adjustability to dail in the way it feels, and you dont have that option with hydraulics.
RMZ819
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1/14/2010 2:43am
Beeler341 wrote:
I am going to be getting a new 450 in a couple weeks. Out of any 450 what would you all have?
They are all good. Just buy what appeals to you and be done with it.
R-acer
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1/14/2010 2:44am
Quiknik, Sick bike...Love it!

G-man
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1/14/2010 6:29am
I find it very hard to justify paying $8500 for a FREAKEN DIRT BIKE! Angry

I'm not rich and in these times need to watch where my $$ go. Actually I've always tried to be frugal in my toy spending. Maybe that's why I still roll in an old van pulling a 2-rail trailer.

Couple yrs back I bought a leftover 06 CRF450 and luv it. At my age (51) I don't want to go any faster.

Do yourself a favor and get an 08 CRF 450 and with the extra 3K saved do what you want!

The Shop

1/14/2010 6:39am
I've gotta ask R-acer if you hate everything about the KTM's why did you buy 3 more after the first?
R-acer
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1/14/2010 6:54am
I've gotta ask R-acer if you hate everything about the KTM's why did you buy 3 more after the first?
Few reasons...

-It was the only brand being sold at my local dealer, and they did a good job of brain washing me.
-I purchased them in pairs, one for me, one for my son, so I really just made the mistake twice. I didnt actually buy 1 after the other in a row.)
-There was alot of hype going on at the time, kinda like the 350 hype now, and that helped convince me to go with it.
-I decided to give it a shot a couple years later, thinking I might have just got 2 lemons the first time......... nothing but problems again.

Since then, I have owned 1x 2008 YZ450F, 1x 2009 KX450F, 1x2009 KX250F, 1x 2010 KX250F. And haven't had a single problem with any of them.... not a single problem...

1/14/2010 2:14pm
I've gotta ask R-acer if you hate everything about the KTM's why did you buy 3 more after the first?
R-acer wrote:
Few reasons... -It was the only brand being sold at my local dealer, and they did a good job of brain washing me. -I purchased them...
Few reasons...

-It was the only brand being sold at my local dealer, and they did a good job of brain washing me.
-I purchased them in pairs, one for me, one for my son, so I really just made the mistake twice. I didnt actually buy 1 after the other in a row.)
-There was alot of hype going on at the time, kinda like the 350 hype now, and that helped convince me to go with it.
-I decided to give it a shot a couple years later, thinking I might have just got 2 lemons the first time......... nothing but problems again.

Since then, I have owned 1x 2008 YZ450F, 1x 2009 KX450F, 1x2009 KX250F, 1x 2010 KX250F. And haven't had a single problem with any of them.... not a single problem...

Good point - for me, this is pretty much the biggest reason why I will or won't buy a particular brand - looking after the dealer who looks after me (and fellow racers). The only reason I went Honda this year over Yamaha is the price - and I don't think the 010 YZ450F is $2000 better than the 010 CRF....actually I should re-phrase that.....I didn't think that any bike in the class is worth $2k more than another.....that said, I haven't ridden the 010 RMZ or YZF...
TeamGreen
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1/14/2010 2:18pm
2009 RMZ450 for less than $6K.
newmann
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1/14/2010 3:23pm
Less than $2000.00 like it sits. Bought it for $1000.00, tore it down and detailed everything as it went back together. New plastic, pipe, silencer, tires, chain, grips, clutch cable, seat cover, air filter, graphics, rebuilt the suspension and a few other misc. things. Had it all apart and everything looked great, low hour original and still runs fine. I'll do a top end after I put a bunch more hours on it, but it's plenty strong as it is.


If I had to go with a new 450, it would be the KTM. Good quality components, e-start and still lighter than than 1/8 ton porker that Yamaha put out. Someone had the KTM price up a while back and it was actually less than some of the Japanese offerings???


TerryK
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1/14/2010 3:38pm
quiknic wrote:
Try one of these! My new ride seems to work... [IMG]http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af84/quiknic/YZ_450_009.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af84/quiknic/YZ_450_013.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i996.photobucket.com/albums/af84/quiknic/YZ_450_001.jpg[/IMG] I will share an update on the bike later this weekend with new...
Try one of these! My new ride seems to work...







I will share an update on the bike later this weekend with new pictures and let you know how I really feel about the new 2010 coming off of my 09 YZ 250 2-Stroke...





and yes; I am keeping the 2-Stroke!
Gotta' admit, the white 450 looks mean as hell.....but Ill take the two strokes hands dome. Fine looking scooters my friend!
mill2
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1/14/2010 4:51pm
Pick a color and go with it....I ride a yamaha
300zx
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1/14/2010 5:30pm
The 450 may be 29 years old, but still has style. Not my bike.

Ing
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1/14/2010 5:31pm
Denn700 wrote:
KTM for sure. I never gave them a chance in the past but the quality is unmatched.
X 2.
JOHN CHOATE
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1/14/2010 5:35pm
Very close to getting a white YZ 450 f myself. I like the blue but I love the white!!
FreshTopEnd
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1/14/2010 5:43pm
I love KTM's, but I was to be in your shoes now I'd probably buy the YZ simply because a good friend owns the local Yammie dealership and I'd push every dollar I could spend toward a new bike to him.

I guess the point is that all the bikes are pretty good; paying attention to which of the shops is a better dealership is a consideration. I would always trust Honda's, but probably wouldn't buy one from the dealer in our area (or should I say, used to be in our area).

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