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But it's not just all about the TV audience now is it? Those "gate fillers" as you called them are the local pros who can smoke us plebes on any given weekend and depending on where the race is they have large contingents of fans rooting for them to get into the points or top ten. Having the guys at the front deal with traffic and lappers has always and should always be part of the game in Motocross imho. Supercross is the series where only the elite guys compete, and Motocross in the U.S. has done a fantastic job of hanging on to its roots and providing a value added show for the die hard fans that show up. Now the icing on the cake is a series that actually pays a purse to the riders at the end of the season and gives them incentive to show up late in the summer to score points in order to qualify. MXGP is in trouble imho.
Why not remove the factory guys from AMA 450 send them to mxgp, so factory guys compete on a level playing field same for privateers.
I don’t get the appeal of two tier racing?
Racing motorcycles is a meat grinder spread out between multiple genre's.......each one takes its time at the top of most injured...just go back a couple years and MXGP was missing most of the top riders with injury and SX had very few...racing motorcycles is dangerous...
Why would they go there for zero money and a pay reduction? You do know that the US series is the highest paying outdoor series in the world right?
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You think like a privateer. I’m pretty sure Prado did okay this year, but if he wants to try sx good for him. But he wouldn’t got to states just for outdoors would he.
Sorry but name other world championship sports where athlete's can just show up and join and be competitive?
There are other lower end series (or b-finals...) where that can happen.
The typical "Local pro" that joins, typically get lapped. Even national champions, gets lapped. High hopes of being a hero, turns into being a roadblock. Even if I'm at the place, I don't want to see good racing being destroyed which happens again in MxON and pretty much every weekend.
But you said the mxgp series is the premier racing. ,
I dont care what anyone says or how much you want to debate that money isnt everything. You cant do anything in this sick world without money literally. Money runs our world, money talks, money is evil, money corrupts us. So I would think that one of the main reasons riders would want to come to america is for supercross yes but more so for the money. It sucks to say but money does buy happiness, Money does take away problems, money does fix things and many more. Its just the world we live in no matter your outlook.
Dont post facts on here
Think like a privateer lol!! not sure what your point is but it is about the money and if you don't think that Prado can make more money racing in the states well then I can't help you....
I don't see it as two tiered personally but whatever. Bottom line is we have a system here that works really well and they may have just made it exponentially better with the playoff and a pot of gold purse money at the end of the proverbial rainbow
He thinks. They should ride for honor and prestige. Lol. Not $.
Name another motorsport where joe spectator can essentially buy the same racing machine at a local dealer and race on the same track on any given weekend and qualify for the big show if they happen to be good enough. We have SX for the elite show along with a crowd with many lukewarm moto fans. Outdoor moto in the USA is run exactly as it should be.
It used to be that people would strive to achieve what others had because they were inspired by what they saw in successful people.
Now, they just resent the fact that someone, through hard work and risk, has achieved more than they have. There is no free lunch.
Now watch the downvotes on this post. Those are the guys that want the free lunch.
A lot of individual sports have open qualifying. The Open Championship and the US Open are the most prestigious tournaments in golf, and a large part of their appeal is any local club pro can try and qualify to play with the big boys. Cycling, tennis, track and field, olympic events, etc.
Thats a nice stat, thanks for the work.
The average would probably be 2 or 3 higher if you include the dns from guys injured during the weekend
So the goat is dictated by their bank balance after a career of racing, rather then the titles he’s won ? Jeez why don’t they start investing in stocks while racing would make a huge legacy guaranteed !
They should do a prize money championship &’includes free style, xgames riders while they are at it !
Just because you can qualify on smooth track, in a session where track is typically faster doesn't mean you belong out there with the real pros. Unavoidable some times, but, dropping the field to 20 real pros and b-finals would make for better racing. You can see it in the rounds clearly, tighter racing between the ones anyway ending up there. Less risk of start crashes also.
When local hero can turn in a fast lap it goes wrong. In the heat getting lapped, rolling around last 10min because they don't have what it takes.
Being the elite series, it should be for the elite. Your not elite, if you constantly lapped and in the way.
Just being there the first lap makes it look bad. Listen to most factory riders, its way more dangerous and riders riding over their head back there.
So the elite finals, should be elite. It's not for the local weekend warrior pro.
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This is a great point. I grew up racing in Pennsylvania, load of laps and Hurricane Hills and Broome. We used to race the state championship for each as well as big races like the Tucker Rocky champ. I would watch guys like Barry Carsten, Dag Boyesen, Chad Kresge, Tony Amaradio dice it up in both the 125cc and 250cc classes. They were the fastest local guys we had and you can be sure we were screaming our heads off for them at Unadilla that summer trying to figure out of they were in a points paying position. To me, those guys are still legends that I'll never forget.
It's nice having money and sucks not having it?
Not at all,but you think they should ride for peanuts, next time you go to work give your boss $50k. And. Work free for at least one week.
The goat will be compensated accordingly.
Doubt Kenny got paid to ride the nations, does that lessen the win adds to his legacy ?
All the elite guys get paid well enough, plus social media private sponsorship deals add up.
Ultimately your be remember for what you won. US riders are type cast to us tracks, just look at RJ at mxon.
Mike lowrey king dingaling 😂😂
Guess you forgot kroc turned it down a few times.
Yes because he prob didn’t feel he could win.
Exactly, but but. The usa does the same and people lose their minds.the usa team this winning this year chances were slim,but they went. Hmmm Guess kenny doesnt have country pride every year.
Does MXGP even have a "real" Factory Team from each manufacturer? Aren't a bunch of them Private Teams with support from the Factory?
Seems like if it was the "premier" series in the World, like you seem to think, that the Factories would at least all have an Official Team right?
While your points are valid, that’s not the reason there’s not 40 riders at MXGP.
reducing the number of gates to make optics better is the definition of giving the MXGP series a trophy for trying.
our local races in USA have better turnouts in every class.
Wait you think it’s a negative anyone can show up and race? Lol
man people these days disappointed with opportunity? Crazy world.
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