Anyone want my job?

cwel11 wrote:

Dude is most likely full of shit and will forget he’s been banned by the time Arlington rolls around anyway. On a side note you’ve done...

Dude is most likely full of shit and will forget he’s been banned by the time Arlington rolls around anyway. On a side note you’ve done a nice job around here so far in my opinion. Seems you know when to jump in when necessary and also when not to. Last guy was a bit heavy handed for my taste. Keep up the good work ML! 

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

I think everyone should take a step back and put down their pitch forks.  I understand forums have to be moderated and a select few need...

I think everyone should take a step back and put down their pitch forks.  I understand forums have to be moderated and a select few need to get clipped for going way over the line occasionally, but that should be very very rare.  I'm not a fan of censoring as it's a very slippery slope.  Just because someone doesn't like what or how that user was asking in the Alessi thread doesn't mean he should be clipped permanently IMO. Like him or not, we should all have free speech, even if you disagree with him. Everyone pitch fork mobbed him for asking the cause of death, and this is a pattern here whenever there's a thread like this.  You might not like someone asking it, but the cause of death is always going to be something people want to know.  This is a public forum where nearly every single thread has some sort of disrespect in it.  There would be no Vital forums if everything was perfectly civil and classy.  It's the internet, i.e. a disrespectful place.

I'm sure most of you have received phone calls in your life from someone hysterically crying on the other end of the phone who just lost someone.  While in shock, what is the first thing you ask???  You ask what happened.  So just because most feel it's not the time or place doesn't mean someone isn't going to pose the question about the cause of death.   

As for being "disrespectful", most of us get that and I understand it's a fine line to walk when moderating a sensitive topic like this.  But censoring can cause a bit of hypocrisy.  Why was it okay to leave a 60+ page Lazergate thread from 2013 active for 10 years that was nothing but 60 pages of bashing Jeff for the laser incident?  That thread had photos of Jeff during the incident when DC was taking the laser from him, and the bashing went on for 60 pages and many years. Was that disrespectful too?  That thread was just recently resurrected with even more shit talking.  It was active up until this morning and was only removed after the news broke of Jeff passing. If Jeff hadn't passed, that thread would still be active.  So why was it okay to host a disrespectful 10yr old thread about Jeff yesterday, but it was not okay for someone to ask a disrespectful question today?  Two wrongs don't make a right, but this is why censoring is a slippery slope that be avoided at all costs.  IMO, most everything should be left up for free speech unless it's absolutely way way over the line.  I think ML actually does a great job at this compared to his predecessors.  

I don't know the posters history so all I saw was the thread this morning when he asked "the question" that resulted in bickering with other members. Based on the responses it sounds like there's more to the story that I missed.  It sucks you received a threat ML, but unfortunately that comes with the territory.  Be safe out there.

 

ML512 wrote:

If anyone has recently visited the Jeff Alessi thread, you may have seen a user who caused a bit of stir. Said user had his account...

If anyone has recently visited the Jeff Alessi thread, you may have seen a user who caused a bit of stir. Said user had his account banned form the forum and then I received this message via YouTube...

"It'd be in your best interest to not attend Arlington SX Michael"

Would anyone else like my job? Oh, the glory of it all...

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

I think everyone should take a step back and put down their pitch forks.  I understand forums have to be moderated and a select few need...

I think everyone should take a step back and put down their pitch forks.  I understand forums have to be moderated and a select few need to get clipped for going way over the line occasionally, but that should be very very rare.  I'm not a fan of censoring as it's a very slippery slope.  Just because someone doesn't like what or how that user was asking in the Alessi thread doesn't mean he should be clipped permanently IMO. Like him or not, we should all have free speech, even if you disagree with him. Everyone pitch fork mobbed him for asking the cause of death, and this is a pattern here whenever there's a thread like this.  You might not like someone asking it, but the cause of death is always going to be something people want to know.  This is a public forum where nearly every single thread has some sort of disrespect in it.  There would be no Vital forums if everything was perfectly civil and classy.  It's the internet, i.e. a disrespectful place.

I'm sure most of you have received phone calls in your life from someone hysterically crying on the other end of the phone who just lost someone.  While in shock, what is the first thing you ask???  You ask what happened.  So just because most feel it's not the time or place doesn't mean someone isn't going to pose the question about the cause of death.   

As for being "disrespectful", most of us get that and I understand it's a fine line to walk when moderating a sensitive topic like this.  But censoring can cause a bit of hypocrisy.  Why was it okay to leave a 60+ page Lazergate thread from 2013 active for 10 years that was nothing but 60 pages of bashing Jeff for the laser incident?  That thread had photos of Jeff during the incident when DC was taking the laser from him, and the bashing went on for 60 pages and many years. Was that disrespectful too?  That thread was just recently resurrected with even more shit talking.  It was active up until this morning and was only removed after the news broke of Jeff passing. If Jeff hadn't passed, that thread would still be active.  So why was it okay to host a disrespectful 10yr old thread about Jeff yesterday, but it was not okay for someone to ask a disrespectful question today?  Two wrongs don't make a right, but this is why censoring is a slippery slope that be avoided at all costs.  IMO, most everything should be left up for free speech unless it's absolutely way way over the line.  I think ML actually does a great job at this compared to his predecessors.  

I don't know the posters history so all I saw was the thread this morning when he asked "the question" that resulted in bickering with other members. Based on the responses it sounds like there's more to the story that I missed.  It sucks you received a threat ML, but unfortunately that comes with the territory.  Be safe out there.

 

gerg wrote:

I gave your post a thumbs up because in most part I agree, but there were mod pleas put out to ease up in Jeff's RIP...

I gave your post a thumbs up because in most part I agree, but there were mod pleas put out to ease up in Jeff's RIP thread...and then the fella in question came out wanting to box on when it wasn't needed.

Also...and I mean this with all due respect because I get where you are coming from in regards to censorship, but IMO there is a difference with censorship in general, compared to re-actively having to clip forum replies on a message board on the fly...especially in an emotional thread like Jeff's passing.

MxAddic wrote:

Not a surprise to me coming from a vitard. This place is a sewer.

MxAddic wrote:

Not a surprise to me coming from a vitard. This place is a sewer.

Chris_Buehler wrote:

It's not. Go jump on Facebook or Instagram and get back to me