I think Jett is a fantastic rider but I don't think

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9/27/2022 8:30pm Edited Date/Time 9/27/2022 8:37pm
Forty wrote:
If Jett is healthy when the outdoors starts he will own the series.
He's going to own it? Sexton and Tomac were 45sec ahead of 3rd. Is Jett going to be a minute ahead? It will be great to...
He's going to own it? Sexton and Tomac were 45sec ahead of 3rd. Is Jett going to be a minute ahead? It will be great to see Sexton, Jett, and Dylan go at it. Each guy is going to have a day they're on it.
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IMO he will be 1 year better and closer to his prime. He has the speed of these veterans and has about 2 weeks on a...
IMO he will be 1 year better and closer to his prime. He has the speed of these veterans and has about 2 weeks on a 450. C’mon guys. The kid is for real.
Oh buddy I'm all aboard the hype train. I'm been on since Unadilla '19. I don't think he'll win the title in his first season on a 450 though.
Edit: I just thought about how he debuted at the end of the summer '19. He's rising to the top of the sport at a pretty meteoric pace. Pretty special
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im with you BobbyM.... i cant stand with this generational talent thing. is he so good it makes me jealous as all balls? HELL YES!. but...
im with you BobbyM.... i cant stand with this generational talent thing.

is he so good it makes me jealous as all balls? HELL YES!.

but james stewart on a 125 or bust!!!! for life!!! there will never be someone beating that.
and bubba on the glen helen 250f?? ohhhhhh boy... ill say it. Beats every 250f today. Smile

okay okay, maybe give him a 22' PC bike...
I'm not sure anybody thinks Jett will just move up and dominate.
But if you can't see the sport evolves and gets a bit faster with every new crop of kids coming up, well, I guess you think we're at a stand still. Kind of like the people that think today's basketball stars couldn't beat the old greats. The kids emulate the best of each rider and become better all around. There will be riders faster than JS7, will it be Jett?
Maybe and maybe not. I don't think we'll see because Jett is a more mentally mature rider. James had the attitude he had to crush his competition. So we saw phenomenal rides and phenomenal crashes. Jett rides just fast enough to win. That will net Jett more championships.
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im with you BobbyM.... i cant stand with this generational talent thing. is he so good it makes me jealous as all balls? HELL YES!. but...
im with you BobbyM.... i cant stand with this generational talent thing.

is he so good it makes me jealous as all balls? HELL YES!.

but james stewart on a 125 or bust!!!! for life!!! there will never be someone beating that.
and bubba on the glen helen 250f?? ohhhhhh boy... ill say it. Beats every 250f today. Smile

okay okay, maybe give him a 22' PC bike...
ToolMaker wrote:
I'm not sure anybody thinks Jett will just move up and dominate. But if you can't see the sport evolves and gets a bit faster with...
I'm not sure anybody thinks Jett will just move up and dominate.
But if you can't see the sport evolves and gets a bit faster with every new crop of kids coming up, well, I guess you think we're at a stand still. Kind of like the people that think today's basketball stars couldn't beat the old greats. The kids emulate the best of each rider and become better all around. There will be riders faster than JS7, will it be Jett?
Maybe and maybe not. I don't think we'll see because Jett is a more mentally mature rider. James had the attitude he had to crush his competition. So we saw phenomenal rides and phenomenal crashes. Jett rides just fast enough to win. That will net Jett more championships.
TM
This. Who's saying he's a world beater like JS259? Completely different rider in the way he approaches the race. It's pretty damn impressive in its own right what he's accomplished in just 3 full seasons
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The Motocross of Nations is a terrible race to use as the plumb line to judge each other straight up. not ever racer on the track had the same motive for coming in 1st place (or even trying to come in 1st place)
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I just hope he makes it through Supercross first, especially if he does some 450 races.
If he can do that with good results then the confidence will be high, then it could get ugly for the rest.
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Whitey wrote:
I just hope he makes it through Supercross first, especially if he does some 450 races. If he can do that with good results then the...
I just hope he makes it through Supercross first, especially if he does some 450 races.
If he can do that with good results then the confidence will be high, then it could get ugly for the rest.
I miss you whitey. Hope you and yer buds are doing fantastic.
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zehn wrote:
He’s talking about a 19 year old owning the competition in the 450 class as a rookie. When has that happened?
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im with you BobbyM.... i cant stand with this generational talent thing. is he so good it makes me jealous as all balls? HELL YES!. but...
im with you BobbyM.... i cant stand with this generational talent thing.

is he so good it makes me jealous as all balls? HELL YES!.

but james stewart on a 125 or bust!!!! for life!!! there will never be someone beating that.
and bubba on the glen helen 250f?? ohhhhhh boy... ill say it. Beats every 250f today. Smile

okay okay, maybe give him a 22' PC bike...
ToolMaker wrote:
I'm not sure anybody thinks Jett will just move up and dominate. But if you can't see the sport evolves and gets a bit faster with...
I'm not sure anybody thinks Jett will just move up and dominate.
But if you can't see the sport evolves and gets a bit faster with every new crop of kids coming up, well, I guess you think we're at a stand still. Kind of like the people that think today's basketball stars couldn't beat the old greats. The kids emulate the best of each rider and become better all around. There will be riders faster than JS7, will it be Jett?
Maybe and maybe not. I don't think we'll see because Jett is a more mentally mature rider. James had the attitude he had to crush his competition. So we saw phenomenal rides and phenomenal crashes. Jett rides just fast enough to win. That will net Jett more championships.
TM
This. Who's saying he's a world beater like JS259? Completely different rider in the way he approaches the race. It's pretty damn impressive in its own...
This. Who's saying he's a world beater like JS259? Completely different rider in the way he approaches the race. It's pretty damn impressive in its own right what he's accomplished in just 3 full seasons
I just think comparisons are ridiculous. As good as Jett might be or some opinion he is, he still had a rocky year on many occasions. Looking back from memory, I believe Jett lost more races this year than JS did his entire 125 career.
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I’ve been watching moto races since BobbyM was racing in them…alllll the way back when Hangtown was actually raced up in the mountains near Placerville…

Oh, by the way, he was fast as hell.
He knows this sport.
He’s seen plenty of fast guys.

But, I think he’s mistaken if he hasn’t seen “unusually amazing speed and smarts” out if this Aussie kid. His restraint in Race 3 on Sunday was, well, almost surprising. His “form” and throttle control -both- looked like someone who’d been on that bike all season. He ran The Fast Pace every time he got on the track.

To be fair, many are gonna say,”Sure, but, put him on that bike all season and see what you get!”

Personally, I think we’re going to be adding a name to the list of front-runners in the 450 class next year. Hell, I’m so silly with positive stoke that I’m thinking Eli may show up “outdoors” and see how things feel and maybe stay out there for another season.

Like I said,”Silly”, right?
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Eli Tomac. Went 1-1 when it mattered more than anything.
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I don’t get it. Why guess about what will happen?
The season will measure these guys. There are so many variables. We don’t know what will happen, and that makes it compelling.
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im with you BobbyM.... i cant stand with this generational talent thing. is he so good it makes me jealous as all balls? HELL YES!. but...
im with you BobbyM.... i cant stand with this generational talent thing.

is he so good it makes me jealous as all balls? HELL YES!.

but james stewart on a 125 or bust!!!! for life!!! there will never be someone beating that.
and bubba on the glen helen 250f?? ohhhhhh boy... ill say it. Beats every 250f today. Smile

okay okay, maybe give him a 22' PC bike...
ToolMaker wrote:
I'm not sure anybody thinks Jett will just move up and dominate. But if you can't see the sport evolves and gets a bit faster with...
I'm not sure anybody thinks Jett will just move up and dominate.
But if you can't see the sport evolves and gets a bit faster with every new crop of kids coming up, well, I guess you think we're at a stand still. Kind of like the people that think today's basketball stars couldn't beat the old greats. The kids emulate the best of each rider and become better all around. There will be riders faster than JS7, will it be Jett?
Maybe and maybe not. I don't think we'll see because Jett is a more mentally mature rider. James had the attitude he had to crush his competition. So we saw phenomenal rides and phenomenal crashes. Jett rides just fast enough to win. That will net Jett more championships.
TM
Wow, I never thought about it like that! You're saying if you give a guy all the advantages of 21st century sports advancement, medicine, thousands of hours of footage of new techniques, etc., then they will probably beat people who had to innovate this stuff all on their own 50+ years ago.
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str8line wrote:

How many of those had two outdoor titles and a SX title by the age of 18 and didn't deliver on their promise?
zehn wrote:
He’s talking about a 19 year old owning the competition in the 450 class as a rookie. When has that happened?
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Whitey wrote:
I just hope he makes it through Supercross first, especially if he does some 450 races. If he can do that with good results then the...
I just hope he makes it through Supercross first, especially if he does some 450 races.
If he can do that with good results then the confidence will be high, then it could get ugly for the rest.
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I miss you whitey. Hope you and yer buds are doing fantastic.
All good down here thanks Bobby, hopefully all is well your end to Mate.
Been a while between drinks hasn't it! With Jetts rise the lads are getting keen for another trip in the next couple of years so hopefully beers are on the horizon.
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str8line wrote:

How many of those had two outdoor titles and a SX title by the age of 18 and didn't deliver on their promise?
zehn wrote:
He’s talking about a 19 year old owning the competition in the 450 class as a rookie. When has that happened?

2023 

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str8line wrote:

How many of those had two outdoor titles and a SX title by the age of 18 and didn't deliver on their promise?
zehn wrote:
He’s talking about a 19 year old owning the competition in the 450 class as a rookie. When has that happened?
decano51 wrote:

2023 

Damn bro you got me 

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9/5/2023 2:03am

Some of these thread revivals are good reading, some way off predictions 

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Stoop wrote:

Some of these thread revivals are good reading, some way off predictions 

            Not to mention , some incredibly accurate predictions !

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Stoop wrote:

Some of these thread revivals are good reading, some way off predictions 

If I were to read something I posted before Jett started on the 450, it would have read something like, he may win some races, and if he stays healthy a championship is possible but not likely. Dude pulled off something Ricky and James never did. And something you ever only get one shot at doing which is going undefeated your rookie year. 

Great thread revival. And more sperm in Bobby's beard. 

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If you were watching the Nationals this kid pulled so many holeshots it was crazy, he is obviously a great starter and the supercross type races the holeshot is everything! I believe he's going to dominate.

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If you were watching the Nationals this kid pulled so many holeshots it was crazy, he is obviously a great starter and the supercross type races...

If you were watching the Nationals this kid pulled so many holeshots it was crazy, he is obviously a great starter and the supercross type races the holeshot is everything! I believe he's going to dominate.

crazy part is... on the 250.. Jett was a terrible starter. Much like Hunter this outdoor season.

All of a sudden he steps on a 450 and his starts are immaculate. 

wonder if Hunter will have the same transition. And if its the CRF250's power that they struggled with off the start? Because Jett and Hunters start technique is identical. and both struggled with starts on that 250. 

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If Jett is healthy when the indoors starts, he will own the series.

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If you were watching the Nationals this kid pulled so many holeshots it was crazy, he is obviously a great starter and the supercross type races...

If you were watching the Nationals this kid pulled so many holeshots it was crazy, he is obviously a great starter and the supercross type races the holeshot is everything! I believe he's going to dominate.

decano51 wrote:
crazy part is... on the 250.. Jett was a terrible starter. Much like Hunter this outdoor season. All of a sudden he steps on a 450...

crazy part is... on the 250.. Jett was a terrible starter. Much like Hunter this outdoor season.

All of a sudden he steps on a 450 and his starts are immaculate. 

wonder if Hunter will have the same transition. And if its the CRF250's power that they struggled with off the start? Because Jett and Hunters start technique is identical. and both struggled with starts on that 250. 

I can't think of many riders who weren't great starters on a 250 that turned into great starters on a 450. The chances Hunter magically turns it around too? 

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Forty wrote:

If Jett is healthy when the indoors starts, he will own the series.

I'm looking forward to seeing this happen, not sure it will but reality is it could.

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If you were watching the Nationals this kid pulled so many holeshots it was crazy, he is obviously a great starter and the supercross type races...

If you were watching the Nationals this kid pulled so many holeshots it was crazy, he is obviously a great starter and the supercross type races the holeshot is everything! I believe he's going to dominate.

decano51 wrote:
crazy part is... on the 250.. Jett was a terrible starter. Much like Hunter this outdoor season. All of a sudden he steps on a 450...

crazy part is... on the 250.. Jett was a terrible starter. Much like Hunter this outdoor season.

All of a sudden he steps on a 450 and his starts are immaculate. 

wonder if Hunter will have the same transition. And if its the CRF250's power that they struggled with off the start? Because Jett and Hunters start technique is identical. and both struggled with starts on that 250. 

I can't think of many riders who weren't great starters on a 250 that turned into great starters on a 450. The chances Hunter magically turns...

I can't think of many riders who weren't great starters on a 250 that turned into great starters on a 450. The chances Hunter magically turns it around too? 

all im saying is I wont be surprised to see Hunter all of a sudden upfront off the starts

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decano51 wrote:
crazy part is... on the 250.. Jett was a terrible starter. Much like Hunter this outdoor season. All of a sudden he steps on a 450...

crazy part is... on the 250.. Jett was a terrible starter. Much like Hunter this outdoor season.

All of a sudden he steps on a 450 and his starts are immaculate. 

wonder if Hunter will have the same transition. And if its the CRF250's power that they struggled with off the start? Because Jett and Hunters start technique is identical. and both struggled with starts on that 250. 

I can't think of many riders who weren't great starters on a 250 that turned into great starters on a 450. The chances Hunter magically turns...

I can't think of many riders who weren't great starters on a 250 that turned into great starters on a 450. The chances Hunter magically turns it around too? 

decano51 wrote:

all im saying is I wont be surprised to see Hunter all of a sudden upfront off the starts

I can tell you the HRC 250 is visually slower then the PC and Star bikes, that's for sure. I was at Unadilla and Budds and its noticeable. And Hunter doesn't look like he's one of those guys who weighs 150lbs. He's prob around 170lbs. So you're probably right

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