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Real food, Protein powder and electrolytes are pretty much the only things worth taking.
The energy gels or chews are a good way to get some quick calories/sugar and carb boost during riding.
Troll and Bam are fans of Skratch labs hydration stuff. I am as well. Beta-A can’t hurt. Protien and carbs after. Don’t overthink, or spend, it.
trt is okay as long as you plan to stay on it to your death. I know some middle aged guys who lift with us and when they got off it was sad to see. It's a fake version of you. Age is unavoidable.
I have heard the same thing when you get off it your T levels go below where they were before not a pretty site!
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What stuff do you think raises test levels? I’d sure like to know, because nothing on the market besides trt does it that I know of.
When a person stops TRT “cold turkey” yes testosterone levels drop dramatically because your body cannot just start producing immediately. A person will have to slowly ween off so that the body starts producing again. Just like when a person starts TRT you don’t just go straight to the highest does possible. Bodybuilders that take upwards of 1000mg a week are abusing testosterone and are not using at “therapeutic” levels. If those guys just stop they will have some major issues just like they they would if they continued to use testosterone at such high levels for extended periods of time. That’s why bodybuilders, even other athletes, do 8-12 week cycles to get massive benefits quickly. TRT dosage is completely different. In my shitty opinion and personal experience it’s benefits are great.
I love you guys that say “this happened to a guy I know” or “I’ve heard this.” Do some real research and consult your doctor for any type of supplements to get an educated decision. Or you can continue to go to your local supplement retailer and get snake oils that really only give you expensive pee.
If taken properly for a boost and it has many upsides. Better muscle, endurance, appetite, libido, metabolism you name it. But and this is a big one, don’t be stupid about it. Most people use it as a supplement and it isn’t that way. A boost is good if you are doing all od the other right things. Not a cure
That’s the key that the misinformed don’t get. A lot of PEDs, when not abused isn’t bad for you.
found the middle age trt monkey lol
I tried 2 spoonful's of spirulina powder today with water. Tasted like old fish. lol Gonna have to add some fruit juice I guess.
Sure did. Looks like we found the prepubescent Kentucky hillbilly. You just keep eating that bull semen straight from the source out there in whatever holler you came from and you’ll be just fine.
The fact that that is what courses through your head is really telling.
Average Testosterone level for 54 years old is 300 to 600. I got off gear at 52 after doing it for 17 years. At 53 my when I developed zero interest in my wife amongst other symptoms like exhaustion all the time and significant weight gain she said I needed to go see a urologist to see what’s wrong, My testosterone level was 38 and my doctor said that was considered medically castrated. I am now prescribed 200 mg of Testosterone Enanthate every other week and my levels have stabilized between 400 and 500 and I am back to functioning normally in every way for my age. The shot every other week is not a big problem considering at one time I was taking up to 3 a week (it was nothing for me to be running 1200 to 1500mg per week while on cycle depending on what gear I was using) there is also a cream if your insurance will cover it but it’s not as accurate at maintaining stable testosterone levels and it’s kinda a pan in the ass to use. My advice to anyone contemplating juice is stay the hell away from it, it’s mostly for vanity as while the muscle is real as you are strong as shit It also comes with a lot of undesirable side effects and a lot of it goes just as fast as it’s gained when you go off cycle, as much as 15 to 30 pounds depending what your size is. Plus I can’t see any advantage to racing looking like I did, if anything it would be a disadvantage. It’s just not worth the lifestyle it requires to look that way and there is no safe way to do it without penalizing yourself later in life. I don’t care what anyone says I lived it and will for the rest of my life.
Enclomiphene, HCG, DHEA combo.
Very well. I've got the various issues. A repaired ACL, a partially torn MCL, an AC separation in my shoulder that borderline requires surgery. I ran a couple runs of BPC/TB 500 and at the end of the season last summer. Everything has been solid this summer and relatively pain free.
2 Cents from someone who specializes in this for a living.... Supplements are designed to supplement deficiency. The first question to ask is "What's not working? Why is the check engine light on?" When someone comes to me or my colleagues, it takes us quite a bit of testing and discovery before we can confidently suggest supplementation.... Including an HRT Consult. Now there are obvious no brainers when it comes to electrolyte/ mineral supplementation for athletes as well others like protein, MCT's and other for the convenience factor.
The alarming trend we are seeing however is the low T levels in young athletes 18-25 year old healthy males with Test levels below 200. Much of the time even after a year following all the natural protocols to encourage elevation it is hard to get them beyond 300. Clomid and HCG have been shown to help a bit more without shutting down the testes but still nowhere near previous reference ranges for that age group. Sadly, there hasn't been the level of interest that this issue deserves in studying these trends at the universities. Regardless, we have a major problem on our hands.
Pffft what do you know.... From my understanding and this is kind of far fetched albeit read upon quite often. A theory is that men are no longer reaching the same Testosterone levels as before due to "recent" changes in the world shall we say? Less jobs are physically demanding, less hunters, all around less of our primal instinct. Now add in the fact that today undoubtedly most children have far more access to information, and a false reality all at a fingertip.
I wasnt going say it... but yeah. That's where my conclusions lead
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Regarding TRT I tried the cream from a doctor did nothing raised it from 200 to 290 at its highest and was expensive, stopped that and tried real trt two shots week did myself .35ml I think maybe mg did that for 10 weeks and it went from 175-200 to 400 I didnt notice really anything, well I broke my leg 5 weeks ago and right at that time was on my last dose, I havent taken any since then and feel no different even with my injury, if there is any difference its extremly minimal.
I have friends that say unless its getting up to 700 or above I wont notice much, I dont know, but for what it was doing it wasnt worth the hassle, makes me curious to try a higher dose to get it to 700 or above to see if really helps with my motivation, recovery and sex drive but I also dont like the idea of having to take it forever.
Otherwise I take a good multivitamin, Vitamin D3 / MK7.
Just hold off trt long enough and you will. Wait till it drops below 100 assuming your testicles do not work any longer at all like mine. I had same results with the cream, waste of time, and insurance covered it only once because a shot was available.
I love you guys that say “this happened to a guy I know” or “I’ve heard this.” Do some real research and consult your doctor for any type of supplements to get an educated decision. Or you can continue to go to your local supplement retailer and get snake oils that really only give you expensive pee.
THIS covers the whole topic and was said about as well as it possibly could be!
I will just give a quick rundown of MY experience with TRT. I am 42 now, started TRT about a year and a half ago. I had blood work done to see if I could uncover why I wasn't seeing the physical results I was previously seeing with my workout routine. I was also dealing with some relatively minor fatigue and sleep issues. Test results showed my testosterone levels were at the very extreme low end of "normal."
I've been on what I think is a relatively low dose of 75mg total a week, and I basically just feel like I think I should at my age and activity level. I workout 5-6 days a week, hunt/ride/hike (always tied to hunting and fishing). I'm 6 feet 190lbs.
In my opinion, which has no basis in anything other than MY experience....TRT has been very beneficial to me. It doesn't make up for living a crappy lazy life and it doesn't mask a terrible diet or abusing your body with other products or supplements. But if you are doing everything else as you should, I have seen ZERO downsides to my dose. I can't say what would happen if I got off it now, and I don't plan on it. Maybe that's unwise, I can't really say either way.
I get blood work done every 3 months now and my test levels fluctuate but are always on the high side of "normal" for my age and activity level. To me, it's just made me feel normal again, which is all I wanted.
So, instead of putting stuff that’s natural to the body, you want to put in stuff that has side effects?
You said MCT’s. I’m thinking mct oil and such. I cycle keto when I lack the discipline or desire to cut the old fashion way. This is when I was introduced to mct oil. Now that I do mostly endurance training, marathons, and obviously moto, I stay away from ketogenic diets because I don’t like it for what I do.
Should people like we/me/us consume things like MCT oil for any positive reason on a regular carb fed diet? I ask because you grouped it in with staples like electrolytes and protein. Divulge the wisdom!
Bruh…. You just got done telling us how “you’re that guy we know” and you medically castrated yourself. Come on lol
You asked what do I think raises test levels besides trt and I told you. Side effects are minimal if you get any from what I understand. I'm sure if you abuse it just like the rest, you certainly will. At the prescribed levels given to myself, I've experienced none other than a little more irritable. And I've responded well it.
Once you go "T" you don't get to go back. Not exactly, but pretty much. You end up shutting off what natural testosterone production you had naturally and for some you can't get that production back. Some of you will say, well it was below the normal range to begin with so why should I worry about going off. Well, like everything there is no free lunch. There are potential side effects. Consult your physician.
LIght reading on raising testosterone levels. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7108991/
Here are some pretty basic foundational thoughts on nutrition when it comes to riding and racing. https://youtu.be/0yQoViyvGsc
bpc 157, IGF-1 , DHEA and 90 trt weekly.
with my brain injuries they cant get my trt levels above 500. it really hurts some....things....
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