Chad Reed, and Stewart aren't much different speed wise.

Hank_Thrill wrote:

I always hear a lot of talk about James being so much faster than Reed; but if you put everything into context, and step back to...

I always hear a lot of talk about James being so much faster than Reed; but if you put everything into context, and step back to look at the whole picture: there really isn't much difference. These are the two dudes at the end of the bell curve. The two guys faster on a supercross track than anybody else on this tiny planet. They are some of the best in the world, and so is everyone else anyone who makes a AMA Supercross main event.


Making the main is truly an incredible feat, that completely gets overlooked. Those who have made mains know how hard it is. (Heck, even Pastrana failed to make the main on a track he designed!). And those who have not given an attempt - such as myself, and damn near everybody else here - have no idea how difficult it truly is. Yeah, we have a better idea than the genera public, thanks to the fact we may have experience riding a bike, or racing a state series; but in all reality, nobody knows how hard it is to make a main event, except those who have, and those who have put in a honest efforts of attempts. So, as far as getting last in a main event goes, I actually think it's impossible. Even if you're a loser at supercross, you're a winner through my eyes. I believe, anyone who makes a main event at supercross is a legend (they just may or may not be recognized throughout history next to the super-legends, due to our small narrow focused and forgetful minds). So if I see the losers of the race as winners, then what makes those who finishes first?


Sometimes I think it's a bit of a bummer there can only be one person holding up the number one plate at the end of a series. That may seem like a crazy thought, especially when all we're taught growing up is, "win win win!" But who decided to put all the attention on the winner?? I know it would be impossible time wise, but everyone out there at the track DESERVES acknowledgment. I think Reed and Stewart deserve equal respect. Both are super incredible athletes, incredible champions, and I can't wait to watch them go at it again this year.


cheers to a new season, and those who will be competing, racing, and talking shit on message boards about the best there are

JW381 wrote:

I stopped reading these boring opinion pages along time ago. Waste of time, I'd say.

Moto East Mag wrote:

I'd have to agree to some of your points. The speed, talent, and pure balls of any national pro is almost mystical. This becomes clear when...

I'd have to agree to some of your points. The speed, talent, and pure balls of any national pro is almost mystical.
This becomes clear when i see a local pro like Dustin Kendall or Randall Everett pulling off the craziest stuff like it's nothing- and thinking about how much faster James is compared to them. It's crazy to see a guy pass me in practice at twice my speed without even breaking a sweat-- and then go to the national and they are struggling just to qualify.
Nothing against these riders- they are awesome. It just shows how insanely good the top riders are.
Ever go to a race with a non-rider and they are laughing at the guy getting lapped? I just tell them they have no idea what it takes to get out there and do that.

kawiracer52 wrote:

mhhhmmm chad and stewart are the same, lets see how many times reed has beat stewart without stewart crashing......... villopoto is going to beat reed this...

mhhhmmm chad and stewart are the same, lets see how many times reed has beat stewart without stewart crashing......... villopoto is going to beat reed this year and hes no were close to stewart.

JW381 wrote:

I stopped reading these boring opinion pages along time ago. Waste of time, I'd say.

Poker_Player wrote:

Yet you read this one AND posted on it. ROFLMAO

JW381 wrote:

I stopped reading these boring opinion pages along time ago. Waste of time, I'd say.

Poker_Player wrote:

Yet you read this one AND posted on it. ROFLMAO

JW381 wrote:

who said I read it?

ROFLMAO

yzf918 wrote:

from what i have read the only one to ever beat stewart when he has not crashed is Villopoto at vegas final last season. that includes...

from what i have read the only one to ever beat stewart when he has not crashed is Villopoto at vegas final last season. that includes rc.

ISUCK@MX wrote:

This "straight up" concept, and especially between Chad and James, has always cracked me up. Everyone here who has raced much knows a guy who is...

This "straight up" concept, and especially between Chad and James, has always cracked me up.

Everyone here who has raced much knows a guy who is marginally faster, and has consistently kicked your butt over the years (like James has done to Chad). Once in a while, the faster guy gets a horrible start, or crashes and loses enough time so that at regular guy speeds and in 5 laps, has no chance at beating you ( like Chad has done to James, at superman speeds). And do you, with a straight face and in all honesty, walk up to the guy and claim you beat him "straight up"? Come on.

James has owned Chad ever since the "pullover" incident. You know it, I know it, James knows it, and most importantly, Chad knows it.

Chad is getting closer, much respect to him, and if he can whoop James this season, more power to him. I'd like to see it.

Poker_Player wrote:

Yet you read this one AND posted on it. ROFLMAO

JW381 wrote:

who said I read it?

ROFLMAO

Poker_Player wrote:

Ok my bad, you didn't read ANY of it, you just assumed it was an opinion thread yet you just posted on it. Why? Attention? Fact...

Ok my bad, you didn't read ANY of it, you just assumed it was an opinion thread yet you just posted on it. Why? Attention? Fact is you don't need to announce to any of us that you don't read opinion threads, just don't post and we will assume you didn't read it, which by the way , almost every thread on here will have an opinion. Oh ya. You had to read at least my post back to ya didn't ya? ROFLMAO



Merry Christmas!

TeamGreen wrote:

So...

Chad's as fast as James?

TeamGreen wrote:

So...

Chad's as fast as James?

Kinetic1 wrote:

Faster! Hands down.

ISUCK@MX wrote:

This "straight up" concept, and especially between Chad and James, has always cracked me up. Everyone here who has raced much knows a guy who is...

This "straight up" concept, and especially between Chad and James, has always cracked me up.

Everyone here who has raced much knows a guy who is marginally faster, and has consistently kicked your butt over the years (like James has done to Chad). Once in a while, the faster guy gets a horrible start, or crashes and loses enough time so that at regular guy speeds and in 5 laps, has no chance at beating you ( like Chad has done to James, at superman speeds). And do you, with a straight face and in all honesty, walk up to the guy and claim you beat him "straight up"? Come on.

James has owned Chad ever since the "pullover" incident. You know it, I know it, James knows it, and most importantly, Chad knows it.

Chad is getting closer, much respect to him, and if he can whoop James this season, more power to him. I'd like to see it.

Cook441 wrote:

I know what your talking from experience racing a series, however I don't think it applies to last year. Reed was all over Stewart at A1.He...

I know what your talking from experience racing a series, however I don't think it applies to last year. Reed was all over Stewart at A1.He was so close that when Stewart's bike hesitated it took them both out- A marginally faster guy would have checked out. They exchanged passes many times last year. I remember vividly one race Reed latched on to Stewart for several laps before Stewart dumped it and Reed won at another event. There were lots of close races last year and Stewart lost several times without crashing. Let's not forget that Reed lost like 20lbs towards the middle of the season for some reason and when you weigh 150lbs thats an unhealthy percentage. The 250F outdoor rider that got passed after the "pullover" incident is not the same guy you see on a big bike SX race and a healthy Reed can win races IMO.

Moto East Mag wrote:

I once rode a "practice moto" off the gate with Mike Alessi at Mountaineer and I think I got in 2 1/2 laps before he lapped...

I once rode a "practice moto" off the gate with Mike Alessi at Mountaineer and I think I got in 2 1/2 laps before he lapped me on his KTM 250F. I got to see his line choices for a couple turns, and they were things I never would have thought of.

(oops I meant to quote ISUCK2MX)

ISUCK@MX wrote:

This "straight up" concept, and especially between Chad and James, has always cracked me up. Everyone here who has raced much knows a guy who is...

This "straight up" concept, and especially between Chad and James, has always cracked me up.

Everyone here who has raced much knows a guy who is marginally faster, and has consistently kicked your butt over the years (like James has done to Chad). Once in a while, the faster guy gets a horrible start, or crashes and loses enough time so that at regular guy speeds and in 5 laps, has no chance at beating you ( like Chad has done to James, at superman speeds). And do you, with a straight face and in all honesty, walk up to the guy and claim you beat him "straight up"? Come on.

James has owned Chad ever since the "pullover" incident. You know it, I know it, James knows it, and most importantly, Chad knows it.

Chad is getting closer, much respect to him, and if he can whoop James this season, more power to him. I'd like to see it.

Cook441 wrote:

I know what your talking from experience racing a series, however I don't think it applies to last year. Reed was all over Stewart at A1.He...

I know what your talking from experience racing a series, however I don't think it applies to last year. Reed was all over Stewart at A1.He was so close that when Stewart's bike hesitated it took them both out- A marginally faster guy would have checked out. They exchanged passes many times last year. I remember vividly one race Reed latched on to Stewart for several laps before Stewart dumped it and Reed won at another event. There were lots of close races last year and Stewart lost several times without crashing. Let's not forget that Reed lost like 20lbs towards the middle of the season for some reason and when you weigh 150lbs thats an unhealthy percentage. The 250F outdoor rider that got passed after the "pullover" incident is not the same guy you see on a big bike SX race and a healthy Reed can win races IMO.

RMZ819 wrote:

The Reed that was bitch slapped in 2002 is the same Chad Reed in 2010. The 2010 version still can't beat Stewart. On top of that...

The Reed that was bitch slapped in 2002 is the same Chad Reed in 2010. The 2010 version still can't beat Stewart. On top of that if you look at every podium speech from A1 to Vegas Reeds looks the same. When you are a 150 lbs and lose 20 pounds you can see it no problem. IMO, Reed could not blame the bike or his wrench while he was getting beat down week in and week out so he chose a illness. The bottom line is Reed is a pussy. Always has been and always will be.

yzf918 wrote:

heres where i read it not on CBS it was an article on dirt rider, and no i do not believe everything i read, just pointing...

heres where i read it not on CBS it was an article on dirt rider, and no i do not believe everything i read, just pointing out something i read that i thought was appropriate to the conversation.
AURORA, Ill. (April 21, 2009) - Ryan Villopoto has thrown a wrench into the two-man machine that has dominated the 2009 Monster Energy AMA Supercross, an FIM World Championship, and with the penultimate round set for this Saturday at Salt Lake City's Rice-Eccles Stadium, the story line is expected to take another exciting twist. On the heels of his first career victory last week in Seattle, the Monster Energy Kawasaki-backed Villopoto has become the wild card in the James Stewart and Chad Reed championship race. Villopoto's win not only turned Reed's five-point lead into a three-point deficit to Stewart, but he also became the first AMA Supercross class rider to win a main event in which Stewart did not crash, snapping the previous string of 54 consecutive races that Stewart had either won or crashed.

Cook441 wrote:

I know what your talking from experience racing a series, however I don't think it applies to last year. Reed was all over Stewart at A1.He...

I know what your talking from experience racing a series, however I don't think it applies to last year. Reed was all over Stewart at A1.He was so close that when Stewart's bike hesitated it took them both out- A marginally faster guy would have checked out. They exchanged passes many times last year. I remember vividly one race Reed latched on to Stewart for several laps before Stewart dumped it and Reed won at another event. There were lots of close races last year and Stewart lost several times without crashing. Let's not forget that Reed lost like 20lbs towards the middle of the season for some reason and when you weigh 150lbs thats an unhealthy percentage. The 250F outdoor rider that got passed after the "pullover" incident is not the same guy you see on a big bike SX race and a healthy Reed can win races IMO.

RMZ819 wrote:

The Reed that was bitch slapped in 2002 is the same Chad Reed in 2010. The 2010 version still can't beat Stewart. On top of that...

The Reed that was bitch slapped in 2002 is the same Chad Reed in 2010. The 2010 version still can't beat Stewart. On top of that if you look at every podium speech from A1 to Vegas Reeds looks the same. When you are a 150 lbs and lose 20 pounds you can see it no problem. IMO, Reed could not blame the bike or his wrench while he was getting beat down week in and week out so he chose a illness. The bottom line is Reed is a pussy. Always has been and always will be.

raddad wrote:

Ya know RMZ, you are damn lucky to be allowed in here at all. If i were you i would turn it down a notch or...

Ya know RMZ, you are damn lucky to be allowed in here at all. If i were you i would turn it down a notch or the boss will do it for you. Just a thought..

JW381 wrote:

I stopped reading these boring opinion pages along time ago. Waste of time, I'd say.

JW381 wrote:

who said I read it?

ROFLMAO

Poker_Player wrote:

Ok my bad, you didn't read ANY of it, you just assumed it was an opinion thread yet you just posted on it. Why? Attention? Fact...

Ok my bad, you didn't read ANY of it, you just assumed it was an opinion thread yet you just posted on it. Why? Attention? Fact is you don't need to announce to any of us that you don't read opinion threads, just don't post and we will assume you didn't read it, which by the way , almost every thread on here will have an opinion. Oh ya. You had to read at least my post back to ya didn't ya? ROFLMAO



Merry Christmas!

JW381 wrote:

Pa pa pa poker face pa pa poker face. Dude, chill. I was just sayin, these opinion threads get so dumb. It's just mindless bench racing...

Pa pa pa poker face pa pa poker face.


Dude, chill. I was just sayin, these opinion threads get so dumb. It's just mindless bench racing, without a point almost.


Chad's as fast as James


No he's not


Ricky was the best (someone always has to include the G.O.A.T.)


No I think Reed is stupid Wah Wah


James eats kittens Wah Wah


I read the first few sentences of the opening post, realized exactly what it was going to turn into, and simply stated that I don't read these things anymore.


Merry Christmas to you, too.

Cook441 wrote:

I know what your talking from experience racing a series, however I don't think it applies to last year. Reed was all over Stewart at A1.He...

I know what your talking from experience racing a series, however I don't think it applies to last year. Reed was all over Stewart at A1.He was so close that when Stewart's bike hesitated it took them both out- A marginally faster guy would have checked out. They exchanged passes many times last year. I remember vividly one race Reed latched on to Stewart for several laps before Stewart dumped it and Reed won at another event. There were lots of close races last year and Stewart lost several times without crashing. Let's not forget that Reed lost like 20lbs towards the middle of the season for some reason and when you weigh 150lbs thats an unhealthy percentage. The 250F outdoor rider that got passed after the "pullover" incident is not the same guy you see on a big bike SX race and a healthy Reed can win races IMO.

RMZ819 wrote:

The Reed that was bitch slapped in 2002 is the same Chad Reed in 2010. The 2010 version still can't beat Stewart. On top of that...

The Reed that was bitch slapped in 2002 is the same Chad Reed in 2010. The 2010 version still can't beat Stewart. On top of that if you look at every podium speech from A1 to Vegas Reeds looks the same. When you are a 150 lbs and lose 20 pounds you can see it no problem. IMO, Reed could not blame the bike or his wrench while he was getting beat down week in and week out so he chose a illness. The bottom line is Reed is a pussy. Always has been and always will be.

raddad wrote:

Ya know RMZ, you are damn lucky to be allowed in here at all. If i were you i would turn it down a notch or...

Ya know RMZ, you are damn lucky to be allowed in here at all. If i were you i would turn it down a notch or the boss will do it for you. Just a thought..

Dirtysmile56 wrote:

What is the average age of posters on these my rider is better than your rider thread?