The creek runs into the San Francisco Bay 3-4 months outta the year. Maybe they should shut the bay down then because of all the ships polluting the bay. Sucks, this place is out in the middle of nowhere.
What gets me is there is a weapons test site right across the street.
And the creek just drains into a field it never reaches the...
What gets me is there is a weapons test site right across the street.
And the creek just drains into a field it never reaches the bay.
There is a lot draining into that bay and I bet none of it comes from Carnegie.
Isn't there a nuke power plant around there for the greenies to complain about?
There is a lot draining into that bay and I bet none of it comes from Carnegie.
Isn't there a nuke power plant around there for...
There is a lot draining into that bay and I bet none of it comes from Carnegie.
Isn't there a nuke power plant around there for the greenies to complain about?
Lawrence Livermore weapons test site is right across the street. If you look on google earth you will see the creek passes next to the weapons site, passes through the old Tracy landfill, next to a rock quarry and then just flows into open fields.
But like I said, this is nothing more than a politically active liberal hiker who owns a ranch nearby, wanting to steal the state owned land and make hiking trails.
There is a lot draining into that bay and I bet none of it comes from Carnegie.
Isn't there a nuke power plant around there for...
There is a lot draining into that bay and I bet none of it comes from Carnegie.
Isn't there a nuke power plant around there for the greenies to complain about?
The Nuke plant is closed and its in Galt about 45 miles north of Carnegie. The only thing I hear about the Nuke plant is that they wanted to haul away the waste on a train but the public shut that down saying it was to dangerous.
The place is so far out there, whos it bothering. Tracy is a shithole anyways.
You trying to tell me MC Hammer lives in a shit hole? Say it aint so. I hear they have cheap new houses in Mountain House. Whenever riding at that place I think about what could be in the water there based on what goes on across the street not what bikes do to it. You never hear anyone bitching about Club Motot which is right on the edge of town. WTF!!!!
The ruling is it's closed:
Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility: Homepage
However, the Rangers have not gotten the official word yet. I'm calling in the morning to find out fer sure. If's it's open I'm going out for some trail riding Saturday.
OFF-ROADING ENDS UNTIL CALIFORNIA PARK CLEANS UP ITS ACT — Clean Water Victory at Carnegie State Vehicular Recreation Area
Oakland, CA — A California Superior Court has ordered the Off Highway Motor Vehicle Recreational (OHMVR) Division of the California Department of Parks and Recreation (Department) to shut down all off-road motor vehicle activity at the Carnegie State Vehicular Recreational Area (Carnegie SVRA) until they file a report of waste discharge (RWD) and obtain a permit for pollutant discharges from the heavily used off-road park. The park discharges prodigious quantities of heavy metals and sediment into Corral Hollow Creek near Tracy, California.
The California Sportfishing Protection Alliance (CSPA) and Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER) filed the lawsuit on September 17, alleging that the off-road park had failed to request and obtain the legally required permit for pollutant discharges from Carnegie's numerous off-road trails. Following a December 4th hearing, Judge Roesch of the Alameda Superior Court ordered the Department to “submit a report of waste discharge for water pollution associated with the Carnegie State Vehicular Recreation Area” and to “suspend all off-road highway motor vehicle activity at Carnegie SVRA, including vehicles driving in Corral Hollow Creek” until they “have submitted an RWD and received waste discharge requirements or received a waiver of such WDRs from the Regional Board.”
“State-run off-road parks should be a model for promoting responsible off-roading,” said California PEER Director Karen Schambach. “Instead, they've been polluting water, allowing unchecked erosion, and violating both the law and their own regulations.”
CSPA's Executive Director Bill Jennings said, “Hopefully, the court's order will prompt the Carnegie SVRA to obtain required permits and begin instituting necessary measures to reduce and eliminate the massive discharge of pollutants into Corral Hollow Creek, as well as prohibiting the extensive motor vehicle activity in the creek itself.”
Two claims remain in the lawsuit. The lawsuit also alleges that the Department is violating State water quality objectives in Corral Hollow Creek and has failed to comply with its own regulations requiring monitoring of soil loss and damage to wildlife habitat. The park is habitat to a number of species protected under state and federal endangered species acts.
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The creek runs into the San Francisco Bay 3-4 months outta the year. Maybe they should shut the bay down then because of all the ships...
The creek runs into the San Francisco Bay 3-4 months outta the year. Maybe they should shut the bay down then because of all the ships polluting the bay. Sucks, this place is out in the middle of nowhere.
well, i love carnegie it is awesome i havent been there in a while but i love carnegie and i hope hey keep it open.......
That is an absolute TARVESTY!.....I grew up riding up and down every single hill, trail you name it. I loved riding there there really is no place like it
Right now the park is scheduled to be closed on Jan 11.This closure is because of a neighbor who wants to turn carnegie into hiking trails.Then her ranch will be next to a quiet park.Shes using the environmentalists.Her brother is John Garamendi and is running for congress.Her husband Mark Conolly is a lawyer and a member of both groups mentioned in the suit.Visit TESLAPARK.ORG for explanation of whats really happening.
They want to steal the state land plain and simple.
Closing that place would be stupid, as YZKEN250 said it is out there.
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And the creek just drains into a field it never reaches the bay.
Isn't there a nuke power plant around there for the greenies to complain about?
But like I said, this is nothing more than a politically active liberal hiker who owns a ranch nearby, wanting to steal the state owned land and make hiking trails.
Thanks for the petition.
The ruling is it's closed:
Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility: Homepage
However, the Rangers have not gotten the official word yet. I'm calling in the morning to find out fer sure. If's it's open I'm going out for some trail riding Saturday.
OFF-ROADING ENDS UNTIL CALIFORNIA PARK CLEANS UP ITS ACT — Clean Water Victory at Carnegie State Vehicular Recreation Area
Oakland, CA — A California Superior Court has ordered the Off Highway Motor Vehicle Recreational (OHMVR) Division of the California Department of Parks and Recreation (Department) to shut down all off-road motor vehicle activity at the Carnegie State Vehicular Recreational Area (Carnegie SVRA) until they file a report of waste discharge (RWD) and obtain a permit for pollutant discharges from the heavily used off-road park. The park discharges prodigious quantities of heavy metals and sediment into Corral Hollow Creek near Tracy, California.
The California Sportfishing Protection Alliance (CSPA) and Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER) filed the lawsuit on September 17, alleging that the off-road park had failed to request and obtain the legally required permit for pollutant discharges from Carnegie's numerous off-road trails. Following a December 4th hearing, Judge Roesch of the Alameda Superior Court ordered the Department to “submit a report of waste discharge for water pollution associated with the Carnegie State Vehicular Recreation Area” and to “suspend all off-road highway motor vehicle activity at Carnegie SVRA, including vehicles driving in Corral Hollow Creek” until they “have submitted an RWD and received waste discharge requirements or received a waiver of such WDRs from the Regional Board.”
“State-run off-road parks should be a model for promoting responsible off-roading,” said California PEER Director Karen Schambach. “Instead, they've been polluting water, allowing unchecked erosion, and violating both the law and their own regulations.”
CSPA's Executive Director Bill Jennings said, “Hopefully, the court's order will prompt the Carnegie SVRA to obtain required permits and begin instituting necessary measures to reduce and eliminate the massive discharge of pollutants into Corral Hollow Creek, as well as prohibiting the extensive motor vehicle activity in the creek itself.”
Two claims remain in the lawsuit. The lawsuit also alleges that the Department is violating State water quality objectives in Corral Hollow Creek and has failed to comply with its own regulations requiring monitoring of soil loss and damage to wildlife habitat. The park is habitat to a number of species protected under state and federal endangered species acts.
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Im signing asap!
I filled it out. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
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This is just as crazy as not being able to buy a mini bike for your kid!
Petitions are good.
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