MX pro arrested in CT

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8/18/2023 8:14am

I'll wait for some facts.  I'm trying to limit my "knee jerk".Blush

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plowboy wrote:
I'll wait for some facts.  I'm trying to limit my "knee jerk".

I'll wait for some facts.  I'm trying to limit my "knee jerk".Blush

Username checks out

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8/18/2023 9:09am
plowboy wrote:
I'll wait for some facts.  I'm trying to limit my "knee jerk".

I'll wait for some facts.  I'm trying to limit my "knee jerk".Blush

bonseff wrote:

Username checks out

My username?

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8/18/2023 9:24am

He was not some kind of mentor at Central. The Club has reached out to local news to set them straight and stop associating him with us

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I'll wait for some facts.  I'm trying to limit my "knee jerk".

I'll wait for some facts.  I'm trying to limit my "knee jerk".Blush

bonseff wrote:

Username checks out

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8/18/2023 10:06am

Wasn't this same thing reported and prosecuted in the last few years? Maybe a different perpetrator? I can't remember now.

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Wasn't this same thing reported and prosecuted in the last few years? Maybe a different perpetrator? I can't remember now.

Different guy.

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8/18/2023 10:14am Edited Date/Time 8/18/2023 10:21am

According to the charges, 2nd degree sexual assault . It could be a person between 13 and 16, or if they are  using the Coaching section of the law, the person could have been just under  18 and because of the coach  athlete  setting and ages it makes it an assault even if it was consensual .     If it was say a 17 year old girl  when he was 20 it might not be as bad as it sounds .  Without knowing more details its hard to know exactly which part of the law they used to charge him. The news posts and articles are pretty vague. Even just knowing the age of the alleged victim  would make things more clear. 

It sucks all around. If its not true , it sucks that he  will have this attached to his name, and if it is true  well it sucks for the victim.       

I got the info on what second degree  sexual assault was at this link. 

https://law.justia.com/codes/connecticut/2005/title53a/sec53a-71.html

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He was not some kind of mentor at Central. The Club has reached out to local news to set them straight and stop associating him with...

He was not some kind of mentor at Central. The Club has reached out to local news to set them straight and stop associating him with us

They make it sound like he did training classes there.

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8/18/2023 10:39am

"pro" 

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He was not some kind of mentor at Central. The Club has reached out to local news to set them straight and stop associating him with...

He was not some kind of mentor at Central. The Club has reached out to local news to set them straight and stop associating him with us

They make it sound like he did training classes there.

Yep that's what I got out of the article

8/18/2023 11:08am
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"pro" 

Well, he races outdoor nationals, has tried to qualify for sx, and has a national number so... 

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According to the charges, 2nd degree sexual assault . It could be a person between 13 and 16, or if they are  using the Coaching section of the...

According to the charges, 2nd degree sexual assault . It could be a person between 13 and 16, or if they are  using the Coaching section of the law, the person could have been just under  18 and because of the coach  athlete  setting and ages it makes it an assault even if it was consensual .     If it was say a 17 year old girl  when he was 20 it might not be as bad as it sounds .  Without knowing more details its hard to know exactly which part of the law they used to charge him. The news posts and articles are pretty vague. Even just knowing the age of the alleged victim  would make things more clear. 

It sucks all around. If its not true , it sucks that he  will have this attached to his name, and if it is true  well it sucks for the victim.       

I got the info on what second degree  sexual assault was at this link. 

https://law.justia.com/codes/connecticut/2005/title53a/sec53a-71.html

It's brave of you to make this comment,  and I also agree.

Imo there is a big difference between a 29 year old man seeing a 17 year old girl and a 18 year old "boy" seeing a 17 year old.

Not sure the law differentiates and there is a lot of facts not known.

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8/18/2023 11:32am

I’m guessing “pro” is being used in the loosest of definitions here.

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8/18/2023 11:48am

The report says this all happened 3 years ago.  I have to wonder... why press charges now?  Like most of these incidents...there's more to the story.

I've been guilty of jumping to conclusions about stuff like this in the past.  If/when more facts come out...then I'll have an opinion.

Fer instance...maybe this "pro" has been dating the girl all along and the parents decided to get him out of the picture.

Or...the pro was dating her...ditched her...and she's getting even.

My point is...without the facts we just don't know.

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8/18/2023 11:57am

When age was the factor then it shouldn’t matter how much time has passed but how old was the victim 

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8/18/2023 11:58am
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The report says this all happened 3 years ago.  I have to wonder... why press charges now?  Like most of these incidents...there's more to the story...

The report says this all happened 3 years ago.  I have to wonder... why press charges now?  Like most of these incidents...there's more to the story.

I've been guilty of jumping to conclusions about stuff like this in the past.  If/when more facts come out...then I'll have an opinion.

Fer instance...maybe this "pro" has been dating the girl all along and the parents decided to get him out of the picture.

Or...the pro was dating her...ditched her...and she's getting even.

My point is...without the facts we just don't know.

Everyone is innocent until proven guilty.. however, this is a horrible take. What part of "minor" did you not understand?

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8/18/2023 12:01pm

how many girls are at these things...

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plowboy wrote:
The report says this all happened 3 years ago.  I have to wonder... why press charges now?  Like most of these incidents...there's more to the story...

The report says this all happened 3 years ago.  I have to wonder... why press charges now?  Like most of these incidents...there's more to the story.

I've been guilty of jumping to conclusions about stuff like this in the past.  If/when more facts come out...then I'll have an opinion.

Fer instance...maybe this "pro" has been dating the girl all along and the parents decided to get him out of the picture.

Or...the pro was dating her...ditched her...and she's getting even.

My point is...without the facts we just don't know.

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Everyone is innocent until proven guilty.. however, this is a horrible take. What part of "minor" did you not understand?

You are correct.  Under 18 is a minor.  If he had sexual relations with a minor he should face legal consequences.  If that's the way it went down...then he's getting what he deserved.

All I said was, I need more facts before I condemn him...or anyone.

I already stated that I used to be in the lynch mob crowd.  Now I want to know real facts before I start picking out sturdy trees.Blush

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8/18/2023 12:09pm Edited Date/Time 8/18/2023 12:10pm
deerlick wrote:

how many girls are at these things...

I didn't see any mention of girls

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8/18/2023 12:14pm
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how many girls are at these things...

I didn't see any mention of girls

Exactly...I already jumped to the conclusion that it was a female.  I hate being wrong about being right...or vice versa.  I'm a turd really.Pinch

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8/18/2023 12:17pm Edited Date/Time 8/18/2023 12:17pm
deerlick wrote:

how many girls are at these things...

I didn't see any mention of girls

plowboy wrote:
Exactly...I already jumped to the conclusion that it was a female.  I hate being wrong about being right...or vice versa.  I'm a turd really.

Exactly...I already jumped to the conclusion that it was a female.  I hate being wrong about being right...or vice versa.  I'm a turd really.Pinch

That's why you didn't understand the "username checks out" comment lol

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8/18/2023 12:36pm
According to the charges, 2nd degree sexual assault . It could be a person between 13 and 16, or if they are  using the Coaching section of the...

According to the charges, 2nd degree sexual assault . It could be a person between 13 and 16, or if they are  using the Coaching section of the law, the person could have been just under  18 and because of the coach  athlete  setting and ages it makes it an assault even if it was consensual .     If it was say a 17 year old girl  when he was 20 it might not be as bad as it sounds .  Without knowing more details its hard to know exactly which part of the law they used to charge him. The news posts and articles are pretty vague. Even just knowing the age of the alleged victim  would make things more clear. 

It sucks all around. If its not true , it sucks that he  will have this attached to his name, and if it is true  well it sucks for the victim.       

I got the info on what second degree  sexual assault was at this link. 

https://law.justia.com/codes/connecticut/2005/title53a/sec53a-71.html

Bruce372 wrote:
It's brave of you to make this comment,  and I also agree. Imo there is a big difference between a 29 year old man seeing a...

It's brave of you to make this comment,  and I also agree.

Imo there is a big difference between a 29 year old man seeing a 17 year old girl and a 18 year old "boy" seeing a 17 year old.

Not sure the law differentiates and there is a lot of facts not known.

After reading the description of the charges those  things stuck out and depending on his birthday, he could have been as young as 19 at the time, the victim as old as 17.  A 19 year old and 17 year old  did not seem like it would have been crazy back when I was that age. It seemed kinda common for a guy to be a year or 2 older than the girl back then. 

I was just pointing out that since we do not know the details at this point it could be something like that as easy as it could be what the headline makes you think. After posting , I was rethinking my post. But I think that assuming his innocence until more info is available would only be fair.

I remembered a story ( from a few years ago or so) about a rider  ( NOT THE SAME GUY)  that  was around the same age who had a Girlfriend that was a couple years younger than him. I think the rider was from England , but I could be way off on that. He got caught with a small amount of pot and when the cops searched his phone he had a topless photo of his girlfriend on it. Since she was 17  it was considered child porn and there was a law that when drugs and underage porn was together there was a crazy minimum sentence.  So while it may have been legally wrong , it might not have been as morally wrong as the charges make it sound. 

 I am used to people not liking my opinions on Electric MX bikes, So I figured WTF , I'll post it and hope that I did not miss something in the news. I hope that either way , more info comes out.  

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That's why you didn't understand the "username checks out" comment lol

Sorry...I'm still not gettin' it?  mgif (Gifford) gave me that moniker way back at Jeeps MC cause I took the guts out of the exhaust on my old XR600.  It sounded like a John Deere tractor...hence...plowboy.  'splain it to me Lucy?

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8/18/2023 12:40pm Edited Date/Time 8/18/2023 12:51pm
After reading the description of the charges those  things stuck out and depending on his birthday, he could have been as young as 19 at the...

After reading the description of the charges those  things stuck out and depending on his birthday, he could have been as young as 19 at the time, the victim as old as 17.  A 19 year old and 17 year old  did not seem like it would have been crazy back when I was that age. It seemed kinda common for a guy to be a year or 2 older than the girl back then. 

I was just pointing out that since we do not know the details at this point it could be something like that as easy as it could be what the headline makes you think. After posting , I was rethinking my post. But I think that assuming his innocence until more info is available would only be fair.

I remembered a story ( from a few years ago or so) about a rider  ( NOT THE SAME GUY)  that  was around the same age who had a Girlfriend that was a couple years younger than him. I think the rider was from England , but I could be way off on that. He got caught with a small amount of pot and when the cops searched his phone he had a topless photo of his girlfriend on it. Since she was 17  it was considered child porn and there was a law that when drugs and underage porn was together there was a crazy minimum sentence.  So while it may have been legally wrong , it might not have been as morally wrong as the charges make it sound. 

 I am used to people not liking my opinions on Electric MX bikes, So I figured WTF , I'll post it and hope that I did not miss something in the news. I hope that either way , more info comes out.  

that is the Aussie former mx rider  Kim Ashkenazi story,  and it was not a little bit of pot, he was dealing drugs to fund road racing in the UK,  but he would have been late 20's early 30's when arrested, seeing a 17 year old at that age is not the same thing, 

edit, - here is the full run down 

https://www.visordown.com/features/general/bad-boy-no-8-kim-ashkenazi

the child porn charge was 9 months, the drugs was a for supply conviction of 6.5 years, 

 

I agree with the above, that we need some more facts before going after the guy, 

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8/18/2023 12:48pm
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That's why you didn't understand the "username checks out" comment lol

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Sorry...I'm still not gettin' it?  mgif (Gifford) gave me that moniker way back at Jeeps MC cause I took the guts out of the exhaust on...

Sorry...I'm still not gettin' it?  mgif (Gifford) gave me that moniker way back at Jeeps MC cause I took the guts out of the exhaust on my old XR600.  It sounded like a John Deere tractor...hence...plowboy.  'splain it to me Lucy?

Ohhh fuck...are you guys saying that you all automatically assumed it was a little dude that was assaulted and my dumbass thought it was a"girl"...so my username = my IQ?

I'll own it.  My pea brain just doesn't naturally go to those places.  I ain't sorry about it.Whistling

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8/18/2023 12:53pm

I feel bad for Tyla Rattray , first he has issues with his training facility , then this kid is wearing a  RF shirt in his mug shot. 

Maybe my other take was being too generous towards assuming his innocence. I was focusing more on the definition of the second degree part of the charges.  I'm going to stop researching the charges, etc. before I end up on some type of list.   

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