2024 Silly Season

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7/16/2023 1:54am Edited Date/Time 7/16/2023 1:55am
Boomslang wrote:

There is a good option available for him if he is willing and can get out of his Monster deal.

 

Sully wrote:

HEP? If so, couldn’t they just roll him into the Progressive side like Kenny?

Boomslang wrote:

I know HEP are interested but I've heard of a link to Husky being thrashed out. Sounds rather silly but stranger things have happened.

As long as it’s not retirement, I’m fully onboard with either. 

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7/16/2023 8:22am
TomC31 wrote:

Justin Cooper said on the broadcast today he is full time 450 next year! 

mx313 wrote:
Yup he also said it on pulp this week. It seems like j-coop and Webb at star. Then Eli gets to do what he wants. Retire...

Yup he also said it on pulp this week.

It seems like j-coop and Webb at star.

Then Eli gets to do what he wants. Retire or 1 sx season? Maybe 2. But due to the fact he wasn't going to race outdoors this season and what's happened he will prob be sx only.

I think you need to go back and listen again...

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7/16/2023 8:50am
Danny818 wrote:
I think Pro Circuit Kawasaki really screwed over Ryder D. After a Amateur career with Kawasaki with many championships they kick him to TLD, I hope...

I think Pro Circuit Kawasaki really screwed over Ryder D.

After a Amateur career with Kawasaki with many championships they kick him to TLD,

I hope he kicks their ass in 24 

Ryder wanted out. 

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Danny818 wrote:
I think Pro Circuit Kawasaki really screwed over Ryder D. After a Amateur career with Kawasaki with many championships they kick him to TLD, I hope...

I think Pro Circuit Kawasaki really screwed over Ryder D.

After a Amateur career with Kawasaki with many championships they kick him to TLD,

I hope he kicks their ass in 24 

Ryder wanted out. 

True, tired of the yo yo bullshit.  Pro one week, Am the next.

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7/16/2023 6:56pm
Danny818 wrote:
I think Pro Circuit Kawasaki really screwed over Ryder D. After a Amateur career with Kawasaki with many championships they kick him to TLD, I hope...

I think Pro Circuit Kawasaki really screwed over Ryder D.

After a Amateur career with Kawasaki with many championships they kick him to TLD,

I hope he kicks their ass in 24 

Ryder wanted out. 

dadofagun wrote:

True, tired of the yo yo bullshit.  Pro one week, Am the next.

I get him being tired of it BUT he is the one that signed the amateur Kawi contract. 

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7/16/2023 7:15pm
Danny818 wrote:
I think Pro Circuit Kawasaki really screwed over Ryder D. After a Amateur career with Kawasaki with many championships they kick him to TLD, I hope...

I think Pro Circuit Kawasaki really screwed over Ryder D.

After a Amateur career with Kawasaki with many championships they kick him to TLD,

I hope he kicks their ass in 24 

Ryder wanted out. 

dadofagun wrote:

True, tired of the yo yo bullshit.  Pro one week, Am the next.

Don’t know what was going on behind the scenes there, but from a fan’s perspective, it definitely seems like Kawi fumbled the bag a bit with Ryder D. 

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7/17/2023 11:17am

I get him being tired of it BUT he is the one that signed the amateur Kawi contract. 

Your point? That was the best deal for him at the time. Now he has a 2 year deal with gasgas. 

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7/17/2023 11:38am

I get him being tired of it BUT he is the one that signed the amateur Kawi contract. 

Your point? That was the best deal for him at the time. Now he has a 2 year deal with gasgas. 

he probably makes more on his amateur contract by way of his results bonuses and the amount of bikes he gets each year  plus he wanted to see what he could get as a free agent .kawasaki could have matched the gas gas deal but decided not to do so. i think he will be in alot better place with the tld team . 

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7/17/2023 11:46am

I get him being tired of it BUT he is the one that signed the amateur Kawi contract. 

Your point? That was the best deal for him at the time. Now he has a 2 year deal with gasgas. 

mjones7212 wrote:
he probably makes more on his amateur contract by way of his results bonuses and the amount of bikes he gets each year  plus he wanted...

he probably makes more on his amateur contract by way of his results bonuses and the amount of bikes he gets each year  plus he wanted to see what he could get as a free agent .kawasaki could have matched the gas gas deal but decided not to do so. i think he will be in alot better place with the tld team . 

Unless you have insider info, it's very possible that PC did match the Gas Gas offer and he still left. 

7/17/2023 12:50pm

I get him being tired of it BUT he is the one that signed the amateur Kawi contract. 

Your point? That was the best deal for him at the time. Now he has a 2 year deal with gasgas. 

Do you really not get my point or just trying to be edgy? No one forced him To sign his am deal with Kawi so why would he feel slighted was my point that went above your head I guess. 
 

What’s your point about the gasgas deal? We were talking about him being sour for the Kawi deal forcing him to stay down. Congratulations on the gasgas deal but irrelevant to what was being discussed. Congrats on being edgy though. That’s pretty cool. 

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7/17/2023 4:08pm
Do you really not get my point or just trying to be edgy? No one forced him To sign his am deal with Kawi so why...

Do you really not get my point or just trying to be edgy? No one forced him To sign his am deal with Kawi so why would he feel slighted was my point that went above your head I guess. 
 

What’s your point about the gasgas deal? We were talking about him being sour for the Kawi deal forcing him to stay down. Congratulations on the gasgas deal but irrelevant to what was being discussed. Congrats on being edgy though. That’s pretty cool. 

The dude said PC screwed him. Which isn’t true. He wanted out and got the gas gas deal. That’s the point. Nobody is trying to be edgy, bud. 

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7/17/2023 4:17pm

hope he has better luck on the gas gas then there current 250 guys.  there 250 guys are not exactly setting the word on fire nor have they ever really. seems like smith and mcelrath were the best that they had 

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7/17/2023 4:26pm

Good for Ryder D on the Gas Gas deal. Him and Brown will make a good team in 2024 if they can stay healthy. 

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7/17/2023 4:28pm
Do you really not get my point or just trying to be edgy? No one forced him To sign his am deal with Kawi so why...

Do you really not get my point or just trying to be edgy? No one forced him To sign his am deal with Kawi so why would he feel slighted was my point that went above your head I guess. 
 

What’s your point about the gasgas deal? We were talking about him being sour for the Kawi deal forcing him to stay down. Congratulations on the gasgas deal but irrelevant to what was being discussed. Congrats on being edgy though. That’s pretty cool. 

The dude said PC screwed him. Which isn’t true. He wanted out and got the gas gas deal. That’s the point. Nobody is trying to be...

The dude said PC screwed him. Which isn’t true. He wanted out and got the gas gas deal. That’s the point. Nobody is trying to be edgy, bud. 

That’s my point too. That no one screwed him. 

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7/17/2023 5:30pm
Money wrote:
hope he has better luck on the gas gas then there current 250 guys.  there 250 guys are not exactly setting the word on fire nor...

hope he has better luck on the gas gas then there current 250 guys.  there 250 guys are not exactly setting the word on fire nor have they ever really. seems like smith and mcelrath were the best that they had 

Nelson was pretty good too before his crash. 

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7/17/2023 5:42pm
Money wrote:
hope he has better luck on the gas gas then there current 250 guys.  there 250 guys are not exactly setting the word on fire nor...

hope he has better luck on the gas gas then there current 250 guys.  there 250 guys are not exactly setting the word on fire nor have they ever really. seems like smith and mcelrath were the best that they had 

The KTM group in Europe seem to do just fine. I wonder what the problem is here.

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Money wrote:
hope he has better luck on the gas gas then there current 250 guys.  there 250 guys are not exactly setting the word on fire nor...

hope he has better luck on the gas gas then there current 250 guys.  there 250 guys are not exactly setting the word on fire nor have they ever really. seems like smith and mcelrath were the best that they had 

captmoto wrote:

The KTM group in Europe seem to do just fine. I wonder what the problem is here.

In MX2, the KTM arguably has the best riders most of the time and very little competition. With only Yamaha fielding a serious 250 team. Honda and Kawasaki are basically non-existent in MX2 and Yamaha/Kemea has only recently challenged them.

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7/17/2023 9:06pm
Danny818 wrote:
I think Pro Circuit Kawasaki really screwed over Ryder D. After a Amateur career with Kawasaki with many championships they kick him to TLD, I hope...

I think Pro Circuit Kawasaki really screwed over Ryder D.

After a Amateur career with Kawasaki with many championships they kick him to TLD,

I hope he kicks their ass in 24 

You mean supporting the kid for years?  Who got more out of that deal?  I’m gonna guess it was Ryder. 

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captmoto wrote:

The KTM group in Europe seem to do just fine. I wonder what the problem is here.

Production rule. 

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7/31/2023 8:40pm

Any update on who is getting the final PC spot? Maximus or Mumford?

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7/31/2023 10:34pm

Any update on who is getting the final PC spot? Maximus or Mumford?

could be a massive reach but i feel like Mumfy is dropping some hints on Tiktok 

his caption on his recent video had in quotations “few more weeks and you’ll see a breakthrough.”

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Any update on who is getting the final PC spot? Maximus or Mumford?

TKLEVEN wrote:
could be a massive reach but i feel like Mumfy is dropping some hints on Tiktok  his caption on his recent video had in quotations “few...

could be a massive reach but i feel like Mumfy is dropping some hints on Tiktok 

his caption on his recent video had in quotations “few more weeks and you’ll see a breakthrough.”

I'm guessing that Mumford's hints have been more subtle than what Cooper Webb has been dropping on IG lately?

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8/3/2023 11:48am

Tomac announced its '24 Supercross only with MX / SMX option. So same deal he had going before.

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Also, when it comes to Ferrandis and his 2024 home, all signs point to two potential landing spots. He’s not going back to Star, they have Cooper WebbJustin Cooper, and Eli “Cooper” Tomac (I made up Tomac’s middle name, but wouldn’t that be awesome if it was Cooper and the team just ran out a trio of Coops?), but he is talking to the HEP Suzuki guys and they’re trying to make that work. There’s also a place over at Triumph for Dylan, which would be a 2024 250MX only ride (Triumph won’t have a 450 ready for next year) and then a 2025 450SX and MX ride. I’m not even sure if Dylan would want to do that, but it’s an option I heard for another 450 rider out there so it makes sense if Ferrandis and Triumph want it. Ferrandis is by far the best rider out there with no ride lined up, so he’s got to be #1 on most teams’ list.
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8/16/2023 11:26am

Some silly season stuff that’s out there in the ether. I’m not saying this is for sure in stone but then again, I’m not NOT saying they aren’t. Triumph will have Michael Mosiman, and word is Joey Savatgy will ride 250MX for them in 2024, and then 450SX and MX when they have that bike ready later on. Jalek Swoll, most of us think, will end up at Triumph also. Guillem Farres to Rockstar Husky, Carson Mumford to MCR for, I assume, AMA SX and WSX, and Tallon Hawkins moves over to the AEO KTM team. HEP will be on Suzuki’s and most of us also think Roczen will stay there alongside Kyle Chisholm and maybe one more 450 guy.
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8/16/2023 11:54am Edited Date/Time 8/16/2023 11:55am

I've heard its a done deal a million times, but has Cooper Webb signed with Star Yamaha yet?

 

Or Chase with KTM ?

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8/16/2023 12:00pm

No way Fernandis is riding a 250 only deal in 2024 on a Triumph of all teams. 

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8/16/2023 12:19pm Edited Date/Time 8/16/2023 1:20pm

Kinda sh*tty Hawkins is getting demoted already. Seemed like he only stepped up early in order to help the team out when they were dealing with a bunch of injuries. Hope he shreds on the AEO ride. 

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Kinda sh*tty Hawkins is getting demoted already. Seemed like he only stepped up early in order to help the team out when they were dealing with...

Kinda sh*tty Hawkins is getting demoted already. Seemed like he only stepped up early in order to help the team out when they were dealing with a bunch of injuries. Hope he shreds on the AEO ride. 

That seems to be the MO with the ktm group. 

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