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7/2/2023 3:26pm
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Hey man, hating Americans on the internet is cool. Get with the times. 

Americans hating America seems to be the latest fashion trend.   When she's gone, only then, the world will understand what they had. Wink

 

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As a cheap person , I have just finished watching Red Bud and then the WSX on some You Tube channel. While I enjoy the outdoor series more than the SX style racing, there seemed to be more equal competition at the WSX race. No one can compete with Jett in the US. Most of the riders seem to just be riding within their limits at the AMA nationals. I do enjoy the privateers doing well and getting some coverage/opportunities. A few of the 450 riders could have been top 20, but my guess is they profit better attending the WSX. Can't see the conflict as to be honest, the date probably did not effect 10 total attendees (Guess, not fact).

More racing is better in my opinion. All forms of motor sports are struggling with funding, new riders  and support. Better enjoy it while it lasts. The times they are a changing.......

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Que the down votes.... For all you people who don't get it, we, the international MX community, would like to see SX in person without it...

Que the down votes....

For all you people who don't get it, we, the international MX community, would like to see SX in person without it costing $10-$15k to fly to the US.

If the AMA won't, why shouldn't someone else try?

The US doesn't have a sole licence to ALL SX riders. If some want to pursue an International career and get paid for it, why shouldn't they?

To expect AMA / Feld kind of attendance in countries that have less population than most US states and considerably fewer dirt bike enthusiasts even than that is ridiculous

To expect a world series in its second building year to be attracting the top, top riders in the world and perform at the level we all are used to with the AMA/Feld SX Series, a series running nearly 50 years, is ridiculous.

How hard a concept is it to understand?

You might want to only speak for some of us international SX fans. You say “we” like everyone is on the same page. I want to go to an AMA SX round because it is exactly that, the AMA supercross! I’ve been to Aus-X open and as great as it was, it’ll never be the same! I still want to experience the novelty of an AMA supercross because that’s the pinnacle of the sport in every way - the best riders, the gnarliest tracks, the factory semi’s, the atmosphere and stacked stadiums.

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7/2/2023 5:03pm Edited Date/Time 7/2/2023 5:04pm

Its blatantly obvious that it  would have been much better to put the series in that sweet spot after the nationals. Not only does it suck to have pulled riders out of the nationals, but it also hurts them with how many riders cant go. Last year they were able to get a guy like tomac to go because there was no conflict of interest and it was after the nationals.

They would have been able to get all the top guys like paris, geneva, aus x if they werent going out right out of the gate to try to hurt the nationals, plus making guys have to choose and instead had all the rounds after. 
 

Plus ppl only have so much time, just watching the nationals alone takes half a day, now people have to choose which one to watch. If they were the only racing on the weekend they would get everybodys eyes on them. Its only a 6 round series anyways. Some of the decision making so far is just bad. Hopefully if its still around next year they make better decisions for their own good and the fans will benefit too with better off season racing with more riders.

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7/2/2023 5:13pm Edited Date/Time 7/2/2023 5:13pm
MKMX wrote:
You might want to only speak for some of us international SX fans. You say “we” like everyone is on the same page. I want to...

You might want to only speak for some of us international SX fans. You say “we” like everyone is on the same page. I want to go to an AMA SX round because it is exactly that, the AMA supercross! I’ve been to Aus-X open and as great as it was, it’ll never be the same! I still want to experience the novelty of an AMA supercross because that’s the pinnacle of the sport in every way - the best riders, the gnarliest tracks, the factory semi’s, the atmosphere and stacked stadiums.

Why does having WSX stop you from going to an AMA SX?

I too would one day like to be able to get to an AMA SX. I just don't see why we can't have 2 International level SX options.

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7/2/2023 5:20pm Edited Date/Time 7/2/2023 5:32pm
DonM wrote:
What happened to your boy Tony Cochran? You know the guy that was president of WSX...The guy that brought in the Abu Dabi investors? That's right...

What happened to your boy Tony Cochran? You know the guy that was president of WSX...The guy that brought in the Abu Dabi investors? That's right it was never ( or very very quietly) announced that he split with WSX and Bailey last March....it remains to be seen how that affects the investment....I sure as hell wouldn't say that it's a safe bet that they stay involved for 5yrs if they're not making a profit...

bc775 wrote:
Exactly. They swept that tidbit under the rug. Investors aren't going to lose millions and be ok with it. Eventually it will get to the point...

Exactly. They swept that tidbit under the rug. Investors aren't going to lose millions and be ok with it. Eventually it will get to the point that the loss is going to be to great to recoup. by the end of this 6 race stint investors are going to be worried. 

Just an FYI - In Australia/New Zealand it was news in the mainstream Motorsport media.

 

It certainly wasn't "brushed under the carpet".

Something along the lines of, his role in helping them get started was over and he was still on hand for advice etc moving forward.

I don't know if that is publicity speaking for a disagreement or truth, however, it did "read" as truish. Tony is getting on and a full-time role wasn't something he said he wanted long-term. From what I recall at least.

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WSX makes angry people very angry.

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Well, it's a tough deal.  It could be really great for the guys racing it, but there is so much wrong.  If they took the stance to have a fall/winter series and had 6 races between October and Christmas it would be great.  Now it's merely a sideshow and the fact they can't get a schedule together is a huge miss.  It's like 3 months now until the next one, so who actually cares?  Likely nobody.  

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Well, it's a tough deal.  It could be really great for the guys racing it, but there is so much wrong.  If they took the stance...

Well, it's a tough deal.  It could be really great for the guys racing it, but there is so much wrong.  If they took the stance to have a fall/winter series and had 6 races between October and Christmas it would be great.  Now it's merely a sideshow and the fact they can't get a schedule together is a huge miss.  It's like 3 months now until the next one, so who actually cares?  Likely nobody.  

They’ve already said next year the series won’t start until September, August at the earliest. That okay by you?

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Well, it's a tough deal.  It could be really great for the guys racing it, but there is so much wrong.  If they took the stance...

Well, it's a tough deal.  It could be really great for the guys racing it, but there is so much wrong.  If they took the stance to have a fall/winter series and had 6 races between October and Christmas it would be great.  Now it's merely a sideshow and the fact they can't get a schedule together is a huge miss.  It's like 3 months now until the next one, so who actually cares?  Likely nobody.  

CPR wrote:

They’ve already said next year the series won’t start until September, August at the earliest. That okay by you?

They have said a lot of things.....like a race in France that was cancelled at the last minute and a race in the US, and 8 races minimum to name a few.  I am great with whatever they do other than act like it's an elite series because it's not....and that's ok. 

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7/2/2023 10:00pm
cbunt44 wrote:

Honestly why are you trying to diss somethings that will only grow our sport ?

Wsx is trying destroy mx nationals, Reed even said it they’re not competing with sx but will be going after mx for the riders and teams...

Wsx is trying destroy mx nationals, Reed even said it they’re not competing with sx but will be going after mx for the riders and teams. They want the factory teams to race USA sx in the winter then switch over and race global sx in the summer . 

Magoofan wrote:
You beat me to it.   F**K the FIM/WSX for going after our nationals.   Grow the sport....LMAO.   That hasn't happened in decades...if anything, we're shrinking...

You beat me to it.

 

F**K the FIM/WSX for going after our nationals.

 

Grow the sport....LMAO.   That hasn't happened in decades...if anything, we're shrinking.

 

Yeah shrinking big time. I walked a mi from the ts too check out some dirt track 900 hp modified  & stock cars. Aprox  30 going wo drifting it was awesome. Basically all 30 battling hard. Best racing I saw since the Mx 90,s. The grandstands where nearly full. A much bigger race the next night.  People r really into dirt track racing . Pro Mx is just kinda 2nd level racing. Nowhere as intense as dirt track or exciting. The sound alone is awesome.   Local Mx is great yet tho. 

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7/2/2023 10:54pm
CPR wrote:

They’ve already said next year the series won’t start until September, August at the earliest. That okay by you?

That makes a huge difference with this year.

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DonM wrote:
What happened to your boy Tony Cochran? You know the guy that was president of WSX...The guy that brought in the Abu Dabi investors? That's right...

What happened to your boy Tony Cochran? You know the guy that was president of WSX...The guy that brought in the Abu Dabi investors? That's right it was never ( or very very quietly) announced that he split with WSX and Bailey last March....it remains to be seen how that affects the investment....I sure as hell wouldn't say that it's a safe bet that they stay involved for 5yrs if they're not making a profit...

Goldmember wrote:
Bailey (and his Mrs) is the WSX CEO. Cochrane is the vice president and on the board. Who knows what he is up to. He also...

Bailey (and his Mrs) is the WSX CEO.

Cochrane is the vice president and on the board.

Who knows what he is up to. He also resigned from his main job as an AFL club president earlier this year.

He probably wants to kick back.  He was bringing the Rolling Stones down under in the 1970's so has been around a while.

 

DonM wrote:
He stepped down as president in March as typical of WSX they just acted like nothing happened...you are making assumptions on why....if it was for the...

He stepped down as president in March as typical of WSX they just acted like nothing happened...you are making assumptions on why....if it was for the reasons you state you would think they would do a press release so there wouldn't be any speculation as to why....but yet here we are...

By the way, you can't help but wonder what happened to managing director Ryan Sanderson, the third of the "world class masterminds", who also disappeared, and even more discreetly...

He probably wants to kick back too.

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Well, it's a tough deal.  It could be really great for the guys racing it, but there is so much wrong.  If they took the stance...

Well, it's a tough deal.  It could be really great for the guys racing it, but there is so much wrong.  If they took the stance to have a fall/winter series and had 6 races between October and Christmas it would be great.  Now it's merely a sideshow and the fact they can't get a schedule together is a huge miss.  It's like 3 months now until the next one, so who actually cares?  Likely nobody.  

Yet here you are, finger on the pulse of WSX.

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RACING wrote:
By the way, you can't help but wonder what happened to managing director Ryan Sanderson, the third of the "world class masterminds", who also disappeared, and...

By the way, you can't help but wonder what happened to managing director Ryan Sanderson, the third of the "world class masterminds", who also disappeared, and even more discreetly...

He probably wants to kick back too.

Wink

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Is that a legit bearded lady in the bin? 😳

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RACING wrote:
By the way, you can't help but wonder what happened to managing director Ryan Sanderson, the third of the "world class masterminds", who also disappeared, and...

By the way, you can't help but wonder what happened to managing director Ryan Sanderson, the third of the "world class masterminds", who also disappeared, and even more discreetly...

He probably wants to kick back too.

Wink

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Mum funds Disneyland holiday, saves $16k by bin-diving, collecting rubbish

You think that's where Adam and Prince Mansour hid the body parts?

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Well, it's a tough deal.  It could be really great for the guys racing it, but there is so much wrong.  If they took the stance...

Well, it's a tough deal.  It could be really great for the guys racing it, but there is so much wrong.  If they took the stance to have a fall/winter series and had 6 races between October and Christmas it would be great.  Now it's merely a sideshow and the fact they can't get a schedule together is a huge miss.  It's like 3 months now until the next one, so who actually cares?  Likely nobody.  

Goldmember wrote:

Yet here you are, finger on the pulse of WSX.

Kind of like you in the Stark threads.  Mind-numbingly hypocritical.

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Is that a legit bearded lady in the bin? 😳

It's "She/Her" now man.    Get with the program, "woman/lady" is offensive now. 

 

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Well, it's a tough deal.  It could be really great for the guys racing it, but there is so much wrong.  If they took the stance...

Well, it's a tough deal.  It could be really great for the guys racing it, but there is so much wrong.  If they took the stance to have a fall/winter series and had 6 races between October and Christmas it would be great.  Now it's merely a sideshow and the fact they can't get a schedule together is a huge miss.  It's like 3 months now until the next one, so who actually cares?  Likely nobody.  

Goldmember wrote:

Yet here you are, finger on the pulse of WSX.

disbanded wrote:

Kind of like you in the Stark threads.  Mind-numbingly hypocritical.

Kind of like you acting like the self-appointed post-police .   Mind-numbingly hypocritical.

 

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Goldmember wrote:

Yet here you are, finger on the pulse of WSX.

disbanded wrote:

Kind of like you in the Stark threads.  Mind-numbingly hypocritical.

Magoofan wrote:

Kind of like you acting like the self-appointed post-police .   Mind-numbingly hypocritical.

 

Go rack up some more downvotes, champ.

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RACING wrote:
"I’m looking fwd to all these various series fitting in together and providing us with plenty of opportunities to watch some great racing. " I don't...

"I’m looking fwd to all these various series fitting in together and providing us with plenty of opportunities to watch some great racing. "

I don't feel like dividing a rather small pool of talent is the way to get that.

 

I think the talent will rise to the occasion.

We are seeing privateers slowly but surely climb up the ranks. At the very least earn more.....and that HAS to provide some of the more talented ones with better training regimes, seat time etc....

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