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Here's a little sample
1. Champions may ride either region the following year but must only compete with the no. 1 plate when defending in the region in which they won the Championship. 2. A rider that wins a Supercross Lites Championship will be eligible to participate in the Supercross Lites class for a maximum of three years total regardless of what year he/she won the title. (i.e. if a rider wins the Championship in their third year of Supercross Lites competition, they will be ineligible for the Supercross Lites class regardless of points and therefore not eligible to defend their Supercross Lites Championship title) 3. After a rider wins a second Championship, in either region, the rider will be ineligible for the Supercross Lites class, regardless of points or number of years in class. g. Riders who are advanced to the Supercross class through points or Championships won will not be eligible to return to the Supercross Lites class.
1. Champions may ride either region the following year but must only compete with the no. 1 plate when defending in the region in which they won the Championship. 2. A rider that wins a Supercross Lites Championship will be eligible to participate in the Supercross Lites class for a maximum of three years total regardless of what year he/she won the title. (i.e. if a rider wins the Championship in their third year of Supercross Lites competition, they will be ineligible for the Supercross Lites class regardless of points and therefore not eligible to defend their Supercross Lites Championship title) 3. After a rider wins a second Championship, in either region, the rider will be ineligible for the Supercross Lites class, regardless of points or number of years in class. g. Riders who are advanced to the Supercross class through points or Championships won will not be eligible to return to the Supercross Lites class.
It's either a pro class or it isn't
I haven't waded through it all, I will post a few things I see when I can.
I agree on AM rules but if that's the case make the 250F's run all 16 rounds
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Shall we now have Pro A, Pro B and Pro C classes?
It's either a pro class or it isn't. This concept of pointing out of a pro class is stupid, period.
In all other forms of racing, a pro racer can move between divisions freely, because they're all PRO CLASSES.
A driver in NASCAR Cup can drive in the Nationwide (former Busch) or Camping World Trucks series...can race all three the same weekend if he wants
MotoGP rider could go race WSBK or any other series without restriction
Jeff Gordon could race a saturday night dirt track at the local fairgrounds if he wanted.
AMA hurts itself and the riders in the class by treating it like some amateur division where riders point out. It should be open to anyone, on their way up or their way down. All they're doing is building a cliff and shortening careers of riders. Not everyone can get a ride or excel on big bikes, some specialize on smaller bikes. With this rule, once you can't get a ride in the big class, your career is over, there is no where else to go...all the did is build a staircase that ends at a cliff....ending careers
It's bogus amateur rules in pro racing and it is stupid
Plus new riders will have a better chance of success if they are not having to line up at their first SX against guys that have been racing Lites for five or more years.
JT$ used to do it
Teams won't want a top guy doing it for risk of injury in the SX2 and screwing up his ride in the SX1 class
Come up with a better system Dave and break it out how each rider would benefit from your system, how the fan would benefit, and how the teams would benefit.
As been said many a time, MX/SX is a sport like no other. Comparing how other sports do their pro ranks just isn't the same thing.
You know...go thru the AX series to get to the SX series...etc. SX is an "Endorsement" on a Pro-MX license...etc. All of which get's trumped by various "letters of rec", etc.
Whatever happened to all that, anyways?
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Also, I can really see this shortening some careers before they ever get started. They make the rule you have to be 18 before you can race pro, then you can only race the entrance class for 3 years.
I can see some careers going like this. 1st year learning curve, 2nd year injured after 3 rounds 3rd year hit and miss mid pack. 4th year... wheres my 450 ride..... see ya.
As an example, what would a champion like Ivan Tedesco have become if he had rules like this to contend? He would have never gotten his opportunity at PC to succeed the way he did. He would have already been out of the class.
Riders on their way up can race experienced vets who may be on their way down. Those vets may not have the speed to run up front in the SX1 class, but have the speed in the SX2 class.
The fan benefits by being able to see and cheer on their favorite rider for a longer period of time, as he rises through the ranks, peaks and is on the way down.
Experienced wily vets against less experienced rookies can make for great racing as well as show for the fans
Teams can benefit by getting name riders with fan following on their SX2 teams, garnering more attention and therefore additional sponsor dollars.
and finally, this system is a dead end system for the pro rider, as once he points out he has no where else to go, so once that rider is no longer a front runner or competitive in SX1 and cannot get a ride, his career is over, done.
Is that right?
To toss aside riders like chum on a shark fishing expedition?
Allowing riders to chose the division they can get a ride in and/or be competitive in benefits the rider, teams, fans, sponsors and other racers.
If we had 100 SX riders that were truly competitive, I would be all for having two national classes. We don't. You make it national and now you've cut out 40 or so riders from ever having a chance to race SX.
The career issue cuts both ways.
pros go for a yearlong title,all others east or west title as up and comers.if they earn enough points by the time they reach senior'4th yr.',they are put into the pro lites or 450 class .
simple.
pro lites
pro 450
pro /am...east and west titles(max 4 years limit)only for am. grads.
same starting line w/ pro lites
Just bring in the 125cc class for 16 to 18 years eg u/19 like in Australia.
A lot of riders don't seem to get it together till early 20's while others are burnt out or reach their full potential by the time they are 21.
An extra class and keep bikes as stock and lets Go Racing, who wouldn't want to see more racing at a SX event.
I see the Riders getting jammed up the ass once again.
I can't wait till the AMA move to having different racing programs like the SX in Australia.
Jeremy wanted to change this a few years back and I am sure even BOBBY M will vote for it once he gets to see the LIVE 2 hr packages. It is freakin Insane, I am old but I get So Excited I even told my 5 yr old daughter to call 000 for an Ambo if I go down.
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