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andymoto 11/23/2009 11:43pm
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Dave was and is a first class motorcycle enthusiast.

He's got his own show and knows who butters his bread.

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PaleBlue 11/24/2009 12:41am
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RMZ819 " 300 pound defensive lineman are on a level that you will never understand" You got that right!!!!!!


How any 300 bucket of lard, who earns megabucks for rumbling around for 3 or 4 seconds at a time, can be called an athlete is really beyond me.
(real atheletes should not need anti chaffing cream to walk!!! GrinGrinGrin )
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Huckster 11/24/2009 3:45am
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Huckster wrote:
funny how people want the sport to go "mainstream" but then rail on companies like Fox for not being "core" when they sell their product to...
funny how people want the sport to go "mainstream" but then rail on companies like Fox for not being "core" when they sell their product to "mainstream" retailers......

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X2!
max911 wrote:
dude look at fox the gear with the snakes and lions and stuff makes us look like dumb asses plus alot of kids will have a...
dude look at fox
the gear with the snakes and lions and stuff makes us look like dumb asses
plus alot of kids will have a fox tee on and they will know its for moto but not spend another dime on any thing else moto or follow the sport
fox wants to make $$ not make the sport bigger
Seriously, next time you post something, really think about what you're typing first.
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spd721 11/24/2009 5:51am
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PaleBlue wrote:
RMZ819 " 300 pound defensive lineman are on a level that you will never understand" You got that right!!!!!!How any 300 bucket of lard, who earns...
RMZ819 " 300 pound defensive lineman are on a level that you will never understand" You got that right!!!!!!


How any 300 bucket of lard, who earns megabucks for rumbling around for 3 or 4 seconds at a time, can be called an athlete is really beyond me.
(real atheletes should not need anti chaffing cream to walk!!! GrinGrinGrin )
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Poker_Player 11/24/2009 6:45am
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spd721 wrote:
it pisses me off when you hear about all these top athetes in football, golf, baseball, and basketball. BUT nothing about motocross!!!! i bet tom brady...
it pisses me off when you hear about all these top athetes in football, golf, baseball, and basketball. BUT nothing about motocross!!!! i bet tom brady and tiger woods would shit themselves if they rode a motocross or supercross track. motocross riders risk their lives everytime they get on the bike. not so much in the other sports (expect other motor sports and bull riding).
Poker_Player wrote:
I'll bet Chad Reed, James Stewart and 99% of the field would shit themselves if they had a 300 lb defensive tackle running to tackle them...
I'll bet Chad Reed, James Stewart and 99% of the field would shit themselves if they had a 300 lb defensive tackle running to tackle them too. I find elitists to be funny.
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Basically all you need to do to be a top "athlete" as in a defensive tackle is weight 300#. Them dudes aren't athletes in my book...
Basically all you need to do to be a top "athlete" as in a defensive tackle is weight 300#. Them dudes aren't athletes in my book. If Chad or JS weighed 300# I'm sure they wouldn't shit themselves. Elitist? So you don't think MX is the top sport? Our sport is elite and anyone that doesn't think so is on the wrong site. Oh, BTW, Despain is a dickhead. Period. Motorcycles are what got his start in broadcasting. He needs to remember this. Or, maybe he doesn't. Who gives a rats ass what that asswipe thinks. Nascar rocks man. Go fast, turn left. (sarcasm alert for the sarcastically challenged)
You don't have a clue of what it takes to be an NFL lineman, defensive or offensive. You obviously don't know the definition of elitist either. Try googling it.

I do believe our sport is a top sport. I hate it when guys like you (elitists) think it is the ONLY sport and the hardest and all the other bullshit you want to throw out there. There are all kinds of guys that ride MX that can't do shit in a ball sport. Can't catch, throw, hit, spin away from a tackle, swim through a block, field a ground ball, throw a ball to a glove, etc... Different sports take a different skill set.
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JustMX 11/24/2009 6:47am
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The sport has peaked.

I am not talking about coverage, I am talking about participation.

It is no longer that affordable, everyman sport of the 70's and 80's.

Fourstrokes and $4k 50cc bikes are turning our sport into polo.

Now factor in a crappy economy, a screwed up legal system, and communities taking preemptive moves against tracks and IMO the chances of our sport ever getting back to what it was in the mid 90's/early 00's are pretty slim.
Poker_Player 11/24/2009 6:52am
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PaleBlue wrote:
RMZ819 " 300 pound defensive lineman are on a level that you will never understand" You got that right!!!!!!How any 300 bucket of lard, who earns...
RMZ819 " 300 pound defensive lineman are on a level that you will never understand" You got that right!!!!!!


How any 300 bucket of lard, who earns megabucks for rumbling around for 3 or 4 seconds at a time, can be called an athlete is really beyond me.
(real atheletes should not need anti chaffing cream to walk!!! GrinGrinGrin )
Another clueless one. Buckets of lard? I would bet lots of money that those buckets of lard could out run you for 40 yds and could do it more often. I would also bet you wouldn't last a week of pre-season football camp.

Ever watch the Worlds Strongest Man Competition? Those fat fucks aren't athletic either are they?

I see a lot of fatties at the track riding their 450's too. I guess they aren't athletes.
tcannon521 11/24/2009 8:37am
11/24/2009 8:37am
I think Motocoach is right, but most sports have "someone."

Tennis: Roger Federer (His current grandslam win streak records are retarded!!!)

Boxing: Ali, Tyson, Manny Pacquiao and Roy Jones Jr. (there was a time when just hitting Jones was considered a victory)

Golf: Tiger Woods, Jack before him

Baseball: Ruth, Mantle, Griffey Jr, Barry Bonds, A-rod, Randy Johnson, Nolan Ryan and Roger Clemens

Basketball: Jordan, Magic come to mind right away. One year the Bulls only lost 15-20 games out of 120+

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SMITH201 11/24/2009 9:22am
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Most dominant of each sport..

MX- RC
SX- MC
AX- Antunez
MMA- Dan Severn
Boxing- Tyson
Football- Jim Brown
Basketball- Jordan
Tennis- Federer
Golf- Tiger
Baseball- Ruth
Cycleing- Armstrong
Nascar- Richard Petty
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spd721 11/24/2009 9:29am
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why the hell did my post get deleted!? the one after smith201. i didn't see anything wrong about it! i was just giving my opinion of the interviews!
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MOTOCOACH wrote:
...how dominant athletes are in other sports! I know Jimmie Johnson winning his fourth consecutive NASCAR title is a huge deal, it's a damned-impressive feat, but...
...how dominant athletes are in other sports! I know Jimmie Johnson winning his fourth consecutive NASCAR title is a huge deal, it's a damned-impressive feat, but they are talking about him like he was the most dominant athlete in any sport, ever! Does Ricky not even get a mention? I mean, he won TEN motocross titles in a row, won every race one season, and every moto TWO seasons! I also understand that Tiger, Jordan, Ripkin, etc., are much, much more mainstream than RC, and worthy of their legendary status, but if these sports journalists are any good, they would research and report any athlete that fits the topic! With X Games and television, many people already know (or have heard of) Ricky Carmichael, and if they didn't, they'll learn about him if they have something to read on him. If you're talking about true and total domination of an athlete in his/her respective sport, my vote goes to Ricky Carmichael, hands down.
RC and MC got some PR on espn/espn2 before i am pretty sure when it comes to mentioning titles and such.

yer RC vote is biased but may be true too.
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Poker_Player wrote:
I'll bet Chad Reed, James Stewart and 99% of the field would shit themselves if they had a 300 lb defensive tackle running to tackle them...
I'll bet Chad Reed, James Stewart and 99% of the field would shit themselves if they had a 300 lb defensive tackle running to tackle them too. I find elitists to be funny.
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Basically all you need to do to be a top "athlete" as in a defensive tackle is weight 300#. Them dudes aren't athletes in my book...
Basically all you need to do to be a top "athlete" as in a defensive tackle is weight 300#. Them dudes aren't athletes in my book. If Chad or JS weighed 300# I'm sure they wouldn't shit themselves. Elitist? So you don't think MX is the top sport? Our sport is elite and anyone that doesn't think so is on the wrong site. Oh, BTW, Despain is a dickhead. Period. Motorcycles are what got his start in broadcasting. He needs to remember this. Or, maybe he doesn't. Who gives a rats ass what that asswipe thinks. Nascar rocks man. Go fast, turn left. (sarcasm alert for the sarcastically challenged)
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You must not know your asshole from a hole in the ground if you think a 300 pound defensive lineman that runs like the wind is...
You must not know your asshole from a hole in the ground if you think a 300 pound defensive lineman that runs like the wind is in not athete. NFL players are on a level that you will never understand.

As for as Motocross riders being elite you are wrong. Certain riders are. RC,Stewart and MC but its hard for a sport to move forward when the promoters of it are ANTI RIDER SELF PROMOTION. The biggest fucking race on the planet is LL's. How fucked up is that???

IMO MX is what it is. It will never get any bigger than it is today. The way it is works just fine for the people that are running it. They fuck the riders over and the riders keep coming back for more. Until the riders tell MX Sports or who ever to f off and take a stand and stay home things will never change.
rmz...yer a dick but i agree with yer smartass sometimes.
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davis224 11/24/2009 9:50am
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so by some of you dumbasses definitions, I could go on a twinkie diet til I weigh 300 pounds, then sign a multi million dollar contract to play in the nfl? No skill required right? Just be a fatass?

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SMITH201 11/24/2009 10:40am
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why the hell did my post get deleted!? the one after smith201. i didn't see anything wrong about it! i was just giving my opinion of...
why the hell did my post get deleted!? the one after smith201. i didn't see anything wrong about it! i was just giving my opinion of the interviews!
Dont understand that. You didnt say anything wrong either Dizzy Probably just due to the fact you claimed something is racial. Some admins freak when they see that and cant hit the delete button fast enough Smile
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why the hell did my post get deleted!? the one after smith201. i didn't see anything wrong about it! i was just giving my opinion of...
why the hell did my post get deleted!? the one after smith201. i didn't see anything wrong about it! i was just giving my opinion of the interviews!
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Dont understand that. You didnt say anything wrong either :S Probably just due to the fact you claimed something is racial. Some admins freak when they...
Dont understand that. You didnt say anything wrong either Dizzy Probably just due to the fact you claimed something is racial. Some admins freak when they see that and cant hit the delete button fast enough Smile
I wasn't trying to be racist and I even stated that. I was just giving my opinion of the press that james gets for you know what.
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peelout719 11/24/2009 10:55am
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did someone mention boxing?

this guy was pretty ok i guess




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PaleBlue 11/24/2009 11:10am
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PaleBlue wrote:
RMZ819 " 300 pound defensive lineman are on a level that you will never understand" You got that right!!!!!!How any 300 bucket of lard, who earns...
RMZ819 " 300 pound defensive lineman are on a level that you will never understand" You got that right!!!!!!


How any 300 bucket of lard, who earns megabucks for rumbling around for 3 or 4 seconds at a time, can be called an athlete is really beyond me.
(real atheletes should not need anti chaffing cream to walk!!! GrinGrinGrin )
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Another clueless one. Buckets of lard? I would bet lots of money that those buckets of lard could out run you for 40 yds and could...
Another clueless one. Buckets of lard? I would bet lots of money that those buckets of lard could out run you for 40 yds and could do it more often. I would also bet you wouldn't last a week of pre-season football camp.

Ever watch the Worlds Strongest Man Competition? Those fat fucks aren't athletic either are they?

I see a lot of fatties at the track riding their 450's too. I guess they aren't athletes.
"I would also bet you wouldn't last a week of pre-season football camp." Too Right! there's only so much boredom I can Take.

"Ever watch the Worlds Strongest Man Competition? Those fat fucks aren't athletic either are they?" Nope, just STRONG men.

"I see a lot of fatties at the track riding their 450's too. I guess they aren't athletes." Nope , just fatties on a bike!

Three outa three! Doncha get tired of always being right? Grin

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Poker_Player 11/24/2009 11:47am
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PaleBlue wrote:
RMZ819 " 300 pound defensive lineman are on a level that you will never understand" You got that right!!!!!!How any 300 bucket of lard, who earns...
RMZ819 " 300 pound defensive lineman are on a level that you will never understand" You got that right!!!!!!


How any 300 bucket of lard, who earns megabucks for rumbling around for 3 or 4 seconds at a time, can be called an athlete is really beyond me.
(real atheletes should not need anti chaffing cream to walk!!! GrinGrinGrin )
Poker_Player wrote:
Another clueless one. Buckets of lard? I would bet lots of money that those buckets of lard could out run you for 40 yds and could...
Another clueless one. Buckets of lard? I would bet lots of money that those buckets of lard could out run you for 40 yds and could do it more often. I would also bet you wouldn't last a week of pre-season football camp.

Ever watch the Worlds Strongest Man Competition? Those fat fucks aren't athletic either are they?

I see a lot of fatties at the track riding their 450's too. I guess they aren't athletes.
PaleBlue wrote:
"I would also bet you wouldn't last a week of pre-season football camp." Too Right! there's only so much boredom I can Take. "Ever watch the...
"I would also bet you wouldn't last a week of pre-season football camp." Too Right! there's only so much boredom I can Take.

"Ever watch the Worlds Strongest Man Competition? Those fat fucks aren't athletic either are they?" Nope, just STRONG men.

"I see a lot of fatties at the track riding their 450's too. I guess they aren't athletes." Nope , just fatties on a bike!

Three outa three! Doncha get tired of always being right? Grin
Laughing Not nearly as much as you must be tired of being a dumbass. Laughing You were probably ones of those kids in school that sucked at team sports and always got picked last.
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spd721 wrote:
it pisses me off when you hear about all these top athetes in football, golf, baseball, and basketball. BUT nothing about motocross!!!! i bet tom brady...
it pisses me off when you hear about all these top athetes in football, golf, baseball, and basketball. BUT nothing about motocross!!!! i bet tom brady and tiger woods would shit themselves if they rode a motocross or supercross track. motocross riders risk their lives everytime they get on the bike. not so much in the other sports (expect other motor sports and bull riding).
Poker_Player wrote:
I'll bet Chad Reed, James Stewart and 99% of the field would shit themselves if they had a 300 lb defensive tackle running to tackle them...
I'll bet Chad Reed, James Stewart and 99% of the field would shit themselves if they had a 300 lb defensive tackle running to tackle them too. I find elitists to be funny.
No more so than the 300lb lineman would if you put him on a bike and sent him over a 80 ft triple or set of stadium whoops wide open.Cool
tcannon521 11/24/2009 2:22pm
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peelout719 wrote:
did someone mention boxing?

this guy was pretty ok i guess




Yeah thanks for proving my point!!!!


Btw, I wonder how many ACL's were snapped from some of those knockdowns? Lots of knee's buckled!!!!!!!!!!
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txmxer 11/24/2009 2:56pm
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peelout719 wrote:
did someone mention boxing?

this guy was pretty ok i guess




tcannon521 wrote:
Yeah thanks for proving my point!!!!


Btw, I wonder how many ACL's were snapped from some of those knockdowns? Lots of knee's buckled!!!!!!!!!!
he hasn't been that guy since Tarver stole his thunder in 2004...but, damn, Roy was one badass back in the day.

Actually, he was losing his edge a few years before that, but, man that was an awesome video
Poker_Player 11/24/2009 3:10pm
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spd721 wrote:
it pisses me off when you hear about all these top athetes in football, golf, baseball, and basketball. BUT nothing about motocross!!!! i bet tom brady...
it pisses me off when you hear about all these top athetes in football, golf, baseball, and basketball. BUT nothing about motocross!!!! i bet tom brady and tiger woods would shit themselves if they rode a motocross or supercross track. motocross riders risk their lives everytime they get on the bike. not so much in the other sports (expect other motor sports and bull riding).
Poker_Player wrote:
I'll bet Chad Reed, James Stewart and 99% of the field would shit themselves if they had a 300 lb defensive tackle running to tackle them...
I'll bet Chad Reed, James Stewart and 99% of the field would shit themselves if they had a 300 lb defensive tackle running to tackle them too. I find elitists to be funny.
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No more so than the 300lb lineman would if you put him on a bike and sent him over a 80 ft triple or set of...
No more so than the 300lb lineman would if you put him on a bike and sent him over a 80 ft triple or set of stadium whoops wide open.Cool
There are 100's of 1000's of guys that ride MX that wouldn't hit an 80ft triple or hit whoops wide open (Alessi comes to mind). Your point?Whistling
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Poker_Player wrote:
I'll bet Chad Reed, James Stewart and 99% of the field would shit themselves if they had a 300 lb defensive tackle running to tackle them...
I'll bet Chad Reed, James Stewart and 99% of the field would shit themselves if they had a 300 lb defensive tackle running to tackle them too. I find elitists to be funny.
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Basically all you need to do to be a top "athlete" as in a defensive tackle is weight 300#. Them dudes aren't athletes in my book...
Basically all you need to do to be a top "athlete" as in a defensive tackle is weight 300#. Them dudes aren't athletes in my book. If Chad or JS weighed 300# I'm sure they wouldn't shit themselves. Elitist? So you don't think MX is the top sport? Our sport is elite and anyone that doesn't think so is on the wrong site. Oh, BTW, Despain is a dickhead. Period. Motorcycles are what got his start in broadcasting. He needs to remember this. Or, maybe he doesn't. Who gives a rats ass what that asswipe thinks. Nascar rocks man. Go fast, turn left. (sarcasm alert for the sarcastically challenged)
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You don't have a clue of what it takes to be an NFL lineman, defensive or offensive. You obviously don't know the definition of elitist either...
You don't have a clue of what it takes to be an NFL lineman, defensive or offensive. You obviously don't know the definition of elitist either. Try googling it.

I do believe our sport is a top sport. I hate it when guys like you (elitists) think it is the ONLY sport and the hardest and all the other bullshit you want to throw out there. There are all kinds of guys that ride MX that can't do shit in a ball sport. Can't catch, throw, hit, spin away from a tackle, swim through a block, field a ground ball, throw a ball to a glove, etc... Different sports take a different skill set.
The difference is when those guys miss a ground ball, or strike out and make the wrong read and get tackled, hit the tennis ball just outside the line doesn't mean the guy eats shit and get's hurt like a dude who goes over the bars in a tricky rhythm section bails over a triple does. Now maybe what people are trying to say is the consequence level in moto is drastically higher than stick and ball sports and because of this moto guys deserve more respect.
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easy_e 11/24/2009 3:53pm
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Dave was and is a first class motorcycle enthusiast.

He's got his own show and knows who butters his bread.

That still doesn't make it any less boring...
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Don't know how we ended up back at Dave, and I have no idea who you are easy-e, but you wouldn't be qualified to hold Dave's dick while he takes a leak, let alone make some kind of judgement about the dude or how he makes his living.
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easy_e wrote:
The difference is when those guys miss a ground ball, or strike out and make the wrong read and get tackled, hit the tennis ball just...
The difference is when those guys miss a ground ball, or strike out and make the wrong read and get tackled, hit the tennis ball just outside the line doesn't mean the guy eats shit and get's hurt like a dude who goes over the bars in a tricky rhythm section bails over a triple does. Now maybe what people are trying to say is the consequence level in moto is drastically higher than stick and ball sports and because of this moto guys deserve more respect.
you don't watch much football and certainly haven't played it if you don't think those guys are taking a risk. No, they aren't going quite as fast as an MXer...but, they take hits on every play. And, if you consider what a 250 pound linebacker running at full speed versus a 200 pound receiver at full speed...the net impact isn't that different than an mxer hitting the ground.

Baseball? I'm not fan, but you stand in front of a 90 mph fast ball and tell me there's no risk. Even tennis with a 110 mph tennis ball coming at you.

This arguing different sports is just dumb (IMO...for GuyCool
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worcsracer808 11/24/2009 6:25pm
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SMITH201 wrote:
1:22...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpAt4qMtLnE
this same part of this video came to mind when I thought of who said they were most dominant. Also for whoever mentioned MMA can't forget Fedor Emelianenko 33-1-1 and his only loss was a doctor stoppage cause he was cut and the no contest was an accidental headbutt and he won in the rematch there, and won every other fight he was in, that's pretty good. 27 wins in a row if you don't count the No Contest.
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easy_e 11/24/2009 6:57pm
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Don't know how we ended up back at Dave, and I have no idea who you are easy-e, but you wouldn't be qualified to hold Dave's...
Don't know how we ended up back at Dave, and I have no idea who you are easy-e, but you wouldn't be qualified to hold Dave's dick while he takes a leak, let alone make some kind of judgement about the dude or how he makes his living.
ok then raceguy. You can keep stroking dave while all I commented on was that nascar is boring and most people that watch sit their lazy asses on the couch every sunday and grab a 12 pack and wait for some big crashes. It's just not for me and dave sold out to what the mainstream wants and it would be cool of him to start a moto show if he cared so much as you think, but do we really need a warm up show for nascar, then the actual 3 hours or however long it goes then a wind down show?? Plus then despain talking about the race that night!? Give the bikes some airtime I say.
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easy_e 11/24/2009 7:06pm
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easy_e wrote:
The difference is when those guys miss a ground ball, or strike out and make the wrong read and get tackled, hit the tennis ball just...
The difference is when those guys miss a ground ball, or strike out and make the wrong read and get tackled, hit the tennis ball just outside the line doesn't mean the guy eats shit and get's hurt like a dude who goes over the bars in a tricky rhythm section bails over a triple does. Now maybe what people are trying to say is the consequence level in moto is drastically higher than stick and ball sports and because of this moto guys deserve more respect.
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you don't watch much football and certainly haven't played it if you don't think those guys are taking a risk. No, they aren't going quite as...
you don't watch much football and certainly haven't played it if you don't think those guys are taking a risk. No, they aren't going quite as fast as an MXer...but, they take hits on every play. And, if you consider what a 250 pound linebacker running at full speed versus a 200 pound receiver at full speed...the net impact isn't that different than an mxer hitting the ground.

Baseball? I'm not fan, but you stand in front of a 90 mph fast ball and tell me there's no risk. Even tennis with a 110 mph tennis ball coming at you.

This arguing different sports is just dumb (IMO...for GuyCool
It's not really about how fast the guy is going, as you don't have much of an argument there, plus the mx/sx riders might be getting just a bit more time in the air than the receiver and linebacker going down on grass or astroturf with underlay. Sure, you definitely take abuse in football and there are guys getting bumps and bruises but if your motor breaks off a jump like grant's did it's definitely much more dangerous than a tennis ball coming at you at 110mph. You stick to tennis and baseball being much more dangerous and i'll take sx/mx.

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