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6/12/2023 4:59am

I thought I did hear the canyon was going to Try and reopen in the east valley?

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6/12/2023 12:40pm Edited Date/Time 6/12/2023 12:41pm
toddw12 wrote:

Racing scene is good in Utah. Open practice scene not so much.

This. 

Most Utah facilities aren't prepped for practice. Half the time, you don't even know if they are open.  On race days the tracks are awesome with a big turn out, but anytime in between those races, they are almost forgotten about (Besides OCAMX and Jordan River). Jordan River and OCA are the only two tracks that are maintained professionally. 

If you want, send me a PM and I can give you more information on Utah and the tracks. 

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You could always move to Yuma, Az.  We never get mentioned as an Arizona track but Happy Track MX has been here for 20 consecutive years.  Granted, we are only open 6 months out of the year and only on selected Saturday nights but Yuma is only 2 ½ hours away from ACP and Barona Oaks. And only 3 hours away from Cahuilla which is where we go to ride when Happy Track is closed. 
 

 

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TogaSet wrote:
Phoenix lost 80% of its tracks in last 15 years.  It used to be a first class moto town.   Gone: speedworld, grinding stone , canyon...

Phoenix lost 80% of its tracks in last 15 years.  It used to be a first class moto town.  
Gone: speedworld, grinding stone , canyon , verde valley , moto grande , ET, Firebird , Eloy 
Luckily it still has Arizona cycle park ( ACP) which is a high quality track run by people that knows what’s up and are hardcore moto. 
If ACP ever goes away it’s time to move to Dallas where moto is still thriving. 

Yep everything you said is very true.

Grinding Stone was a fun Natural Terrain Desert track 15 minutes from my house.

That was the final nail in the coffin for me as far as riding moto pretty much.

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6/20/2023 10:32am Edited Date/Time 6/20/2023 10:32am

I have a private track near Kingman closed it down a couple years ago as no one was ever interested in riding.

Now that everything is closed or crap I thought I would drop a comment.

I guess I am a bit too far off the beaten path but no other track in the southwest can touch it save maybe Glen Helen.

Gopher Gulch MX

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6/20/2023 1:00pm
motomojo wrote:
I have a private track near Kingman closed it down a couple years ago as no one was ever interested in riding. Now that everything is...

I have a private track near Kingman closed it down a couple years ago as no one was ever interested in riding.

Now that everything is closed or crap I thought I would drop a comment.

I guess I am a bit too far off the beaten path but no other track in the southwest can touch it save maybe Glen Helen.

Gopher Gulch MX

Your track does look freaking awesome!

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motomojo wrote:
I have a private track near Kingman closed it down a couple years ago as no one was ever interested in riding. Now that everything is...

I have a private track near Kingman closed it down a couple years ago as no one was ever interested in riding.

Now that everything is closed or crap I thought I would drop a comment.

I guess I am a bit too far off the beaten path but no other track in the southwest can touch it save maybe Glen Helen.

Gopher Gulch MX

When are you open? when can we ride?

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Just to add a few things on AZ....

Motoland vet track has undergone some nice changes the last few weeks.    He did open it up a little bit to make it more flowy and he has more planned to extend it even a little longer.  I rode on it just last weekend and the dirt was excellent almost the whole day.  The Vet is a little looser/sandy and doesn't get quite as hard and baked as the main track.  Best thing about Motoland is the owners.  They are enthusiastic and engaged and always thinking of the next improvement.

I was super bummed when Grindingstone went away.  Loved that place.  The way the story was told at the time, the kid was 16/17 so he drove himself there and he basically acted as if he was over 18 and just signed as an adult.   I heard some rumors lately that someone is trying to get that track going again, but no idea how true it may be... no details on who, etc were given.

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TogaSet wrote:
Phoenix lost 80% of its tracks in last 15 years.  It used to be a first class moto town.   Gone: speedworld, grinding stone , canyon...

Phoenix lost 80% of its tracks in last 15 years.  It used to be a first class moto town.  
Gone: speedworld, grinding stone , canyon , verde valley , moto grande , ET, Firebird , Eloy 
Luckily it still has Arizona cycle park ( ACP) which is a high quality track run by people that knows what’s up and are hardcore moto. 
If ACP ever goes away it’s time to move to Dallas where moto is still thriving. 

It's still solid down here. But the ones we have lost were really damn good ones.

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6/20/2023 7:45pm

It would be cool if there was a “track map” here on vital, where we could browse by state, discuss each track, post pics, etc.. 

 

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6/20/2023 7:51pm
FGR01 wrote:
Just to add a few things on AZ.... Motoland vet track has undergone some nice changes the last few weeks.    He did open it up...

Just to add a few things on AZ....

Motoland vet track has undergone some nice changes the last few weeks.    He did open it up a little bit to make it more flowy and he has more planned to extend it even a little longer.  I rode on it just last weekend and the dirt was excellent almost the whole day.  The Vet is a little looser/sandy and doesn't get quite as hard and baked as the main track.  Best thing about Motoland is the owners.  They are enthusiastic and engaged and always thinking of the next improvement.

I was super bummed when Grindingstone went away.  Loved that place.  The way the story was told at the time, the kid was 16/17 so he drove himself there and he basically acted as if he was over 18 and just signed as an adult.   I heard some rumors lately that someone is trying to get that track going again, but no idea how true it may be... no details on who, etc were given.

1000% agree on Motoland and dig the new changes being made to it.  Also agree on the dirt.  Also, Mike and his family at Motoland are awesome as you mentioned.  Love what they are doing.  To me, there are even more true moto than Bev and Bobby at ACP.  All are super good people though.  While we may not have a lot of tracks, I do like and value the ones we still have.  Hope you are right on Grinding Stone, that would be fantastic.  

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FGR01 wrote:
Just to add a few things on AZ.... Motoland vet track has undergone some nice changes the last few weeks.    He did open it up...

Just to add a few things on AZ....

Motoland vet track has undergone some nice changes the last few weeks.    He did open it up a little bit to make it more flowy and he has more planned to extend it even a little longer.  I rode on it just last weekend and the dirt was excellent almost the whole day.  The Vet is a little looser/sandy and doesn't get quite as hard and baked as the main track.  Best thing about Motoland is the owners.  They are enthusiastic and engaged and always thinking of the next improvement.

I was super bummed when Grindingstone went away.  Loved that place.  The way the story was told at the time, the kid was 16/17 so he drove himself there and he basically acted as if he was over 18 and just signed as an adult.   I heard some rumors lately that someone is trying to get that track going again, but no idea how true it may be... no details on who, etc were given.

"I was super bummed when Grindingstone went away. Loved that place. The way the story was told at the time, the kid was 16/17 so he drove himself there and he basically acted as if he was over 18 and just signed as an adult. I heard some rumors lately that someone is trying to get that track going again, but no idea how true it may be... no details on who, etc were given."

Yep and the HYPOCRITE Dad was the worst and initiated the lawsuit after his son lied and signed the waiver saying he was 18. 🤬

 Turns out pops was a fireman and they found news video footage of him knocking on doors asking "do you know where children are?" as there are numerous drownings in pools in Arizona. I wish more was done to expose that....

I hope the rumors are true about Grindingstone, I would shake off the dust on the 06 CRF450 for that!

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6/21/2023 5:06am Edited Date/Time 6/21/2023 5:09am

Never got to ride grindstone,but from the pictures I’ve seen on the interweb,tracks looks super fun. Sure hope they could open it back up because I’m in the east valley.

 

I may have to go back and give Motoland another try. Maybe I was spoiled by the ca tracks like glen helen,cahuilla,and fox raceway where I used to ride before I moved out here. 

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FGR01 wrote:
Just to add a few things on AZ.... Motoland vet track has undergone some nice changes the last few weeks.    He did open it up...

Just to add a few things on AZ....

Motoland vet track has undergone some nice changes the last few weeks.    He did open it up a little bit to make it more flowy and he has more planned to extend it even a little longer.  I rode on it just last weekend and the dirt was excellent almost the whole day.  The Vet is a little looser/sandy and doesn't get quite as hard and baked as the main track.  Best thing about Motoland is the owners.  They are enthusiastic and engaged and always thinking of the next improvement.

I was super bummed when Grindingstone went away.  Loved that place.  The way the story was told at the time, the kid was 16/17 so he drove himself there and he basically acted as if he was over 18 and just signed as an adult.   I heard some rumors lately that someone is trying to get that track going again, but no idea how true it may be... no details on who, etc were given.

G-man wrote:
"I was super bummed when Grindingstone went away. Loved that place. The way the story was told at the time, the kid was 16/17 so he...

"I was super bummed when Grindingstone went away. Loved that place. The way the story was told at the time, the kid was 16/17 so he drove himself there and he basically acted as if he was over 18 and just signed as an adult. I heard some rumors lately that someone is trying to get that track going again, but no idea how true it may be... no details on who, etc were given."

Yep and the HYPOCRITE Dad was the worst and initiated the lawsuit after his son lied and signed the waiver saying he was 18. 🤬

 Turns out pops was a fireman and they found news video footage of him knocking on doors asking "do you know where children are?" as there are numerous drownings in pools in Arizona. I wish more was done to expose that....

I hope the rumors are true about Grindingstone, I would shake off the dust on the 06 CRF450 for that!

That would be sweet… i’m driving down next week to visit my mom in FH and it would be cool if I could bring the bike down to ride too! 

6/25/2023 6:50am

I live in Mesquite and am formerly from the SLC area so here is some first hand information about the track and the MX scene in the area. 
Mesquite MX was acquired by RMX(Grassroots Promotions) about 3 years ago. RMX is arguably one of the best series on the west coast and the Brough family that run it are truly great people. Since they took over it has become arguably one of the top weekend destinations to ride in the intermountain region. The track is open September through April and is closed during the summer due to the extreme temperatures down here. I know they are planning on getting to the point where the track is open from September through May but that is a work in progress. The track is very deep and ruts up quickly to make for some good riding conditions. 
They do offer an unlimited ride pass for the season that is really cool and cuts down on the entry fees if you ride every weekend. They have practice pretty much every weekend if there is not a race. The also hold the Thanksgiving Classic at Mesquite that usually draws around 1k individual entries. And they just brought back World Minis too! 
LACR & GH are about 4 hours from me and several tracks in SLC are around the same travel time. Yes the track scene is limited down here but the natural terrain riding is amazing and basically endless. Southern Utah has lots to offer for recreation and is very visually appealing too.  
Let me know if you end up moving out here and I can give you some additional information. 
-Sebastian

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6/25/2023 10:37am
I live in Mesquite and am formerly from the SLC area so here is some first hand information about the track and the MX scene in...

I live in Mesquite and am formerly from the SLC area so here is some first hand information about the track and the MX scene in the area. 
Mesquite MX was acquired by RMX(Grassroots Promotions) about 3 years ago. RMX is arguably one of the best series on the west coast and the Brough family that run it are truly great people. Since they took over it has become arguably one of the top weekend destinations to ride in the intermountain region. The track is open September through April and is closed during the summer due to the extreme temperatures down here. I know they are planning on getting to the point where the track is open from September through May but that is a work in progress. The track is very deep and ruts up quickly to make for some good riding conditions. 
They do offer an unlimited ride pass for the season that is really cool and cuts down on the entry fees if you ride every weekend. They have practice pretty much every weekend if there is not a race. The also hold the Thanksgiving Classic at Mesquite that usually draws around 1k individual entries. And they just brought back World Minis too! 
LACR & GH are about 4 hours from me and several tracks in SLC are around the same travel time. Yes the track scene is limited down here but the natural terrain riding is amazing and basically endless. Southern Utah has lots to offer for recreation and is very visually appealing too.  
Let me know if you end up moving out here and I can give you some additional information. 
-Sebastian

My little brother and his family lives in Mesquite and they love it there.  He's not into riding, but they love it in that area (including St George).  I'm surprised they close down for the summer.  Its hotter here in Phoenix and we still ride year round, albeit attendance does drop off in the summer.  The die hards still ride when it gets hot.  Just drink lots of fluids and get out there early.

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My little brother and his family lives in Mesquite and they love it there.  He's not into riding, but they love it in that area (including...

My little brother and his family lives in Mesquite and they love it there.  He's not into riding, but they love it in that area (including St George).  I'm surprised they close down for the summer.  Its hotter here in Phoenix and we still ride year round, albeit attendance does drop off in the summer.  The die hards still ride when it gets hot.  Just drink lots of fluids and get out there early.

Mesquite is RMXs "winter" track. They lease or own tracks all over Utah/Idaho and hold practices/races at them during April - October.

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Hello all,    Considering moving out of commiefornia and im looking at either arizona or utah. I was wondering if some locals could tell me about...

Hello all, 

 

Considering moving out of commiefornia and im looking at either arizona or utah. I was wondering if some locals could tell me about the tracks there, i found a website but i think its outdated, and it didnt have much info. I would be open to hearing about ALL tracks in the whole of either state, and of course public and private, as maybe i can make friends with people who have private ride spots. 

Thanks in Advance

 

Dan 

Not az or ut, but I think you want Denver if you want a serious moto scene. 

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toddw12 wrote:

Racing scene is good in Utah. Open practice scene not so much.

hititpind wrote:
This.  Most Utah facilities aren't prepped for practice. Half the time, you don't even know if they are open.  On race days the tracks are awesome...

This. 

Most Utah facilities aren't prepped for practice. Half the time, you don't even know if they are open.  On race days the tracks are awesome with a big turn out, but anytime in between those races, they are almost forgotten about (Besides OCAMX and Jordan River). Jordan River and OCA are the only two tracks that are maintained professionally. 

If you want, send me a PM and I can give you more information on Utah and the tracks. 

Sorry for the late reply. Life happens lol. will send you a PM

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You could always move to Yuma, Az.  We never get mentioned as an Arizona track but Happy Track MX has been here for 20 consecutive years...

You could always move to Yuma, Az.  We never get mentioned as an Arizona track but Happy Track MX has been here for 20 consecutive years.  Granted, we are only open 6 months out of the year and only on selected Saturday nights but Yuma is only 2 ½ hours away from ACP and Barona Oaks. And only 3 hours away from Cahuilla which is where we go to ride when Happy Track is closed. 
 

 

I have never heard of that track, ill check it out on YT. Reason i was learning towards phoenix is just more of a job thing. 

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motomojo wrote:
I have a private track near Kingman closed it down a couple years ago as no one was ever interested in riding. Now that everything is...

I have a private track near Kingman closed it down a couple years ago as no one was ever interested in riding.

Now that everything is closed or crap I thought I would drop a comment.

I guess I am a bit too far off the beaten path but no other track in the southwest can touch it save maybe Glen Helen.

Gopher Gulch MX

i looked up the videos on youtube, that track looks cool. lots of elevation it looks like and just looks like its totally hidden, just a bare track no facilities or anything, looks absolutely wild. Looks like a FAST track. id love to ride it one day, i feel like i would need to be better LOL 

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It would be cool if there was a “track map” here on vital, where we could browse by state, discuss each track, post pics, etc..   ...

It would be cool if there was a “track map” here on vital, where we could browse by state, discuss each track, post pics, etc.. 

 

they need to get on that ASAP!!!!!

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I live in Mesquite and am formerly from the SLC area so here is some first hand information about the track and the MX scene in...

I live in Mesquite and am formerly from the SLC area so here is some first hand information about the track and the MX scene in the area. 
Mesquite MX was acquired by RMX(Grassroots Promotions) about 3 years ago. RMX is arguably one of the best series on the west coast and the Brough family that run it are truly great people. Since they took over it has become arguably one of the top weekend destinations to ride in the intermountain region. The track is open September through April and is closed during the summer due to the extreme temperatures down here. I know they are planning on getting to the point where the track is open from September through May but that is a work in progress. The track is very deep and ruts up quickly to make for some good riding conditions. 
They do offer an unlimited ride pass for the season that is really cool and cuts down on the entry fees if you ride every weekend. They have practice pretty much every weekend if there is not a race. The also hold the Thanksgiving Classic at Mesquite that usually draws around 1k individual entries. And they just brought back World Minis too! 
LACR & GH are about 4 hours from me and several tracks in SLC are around the same travel time. Yes the track scene is limited down here but the natural terrain riding is amazing and basically endless. Southern Utah has lots to offer for recreation and is very visually appealing too.  
Let me know if you end up moving out here and I can give you some additional information. 
-Sebastian

thanks for the info. The track in mesquite looks awesome. Some of those tracks in northern Utah look really good too. I am planning on doing a road trip in a month or so and checking out idaho and then coming down the state of utah down to the bottom to check out the southern part of the state. From what i have heard, similar to what you said, lots of good outdoor activities and very pretty, the whole state looks very pretty tbh. 

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Hello all,    Considering moving out of commiefornia and im looking at either arizona or utah. I was wondering if some locals could tell me about...

Hello all, 

 

Considering moving out of commiefornia and im looking at either arizona or utah. I was wondering if some locals could tell me about the tracks there, i found a website but i think its outdated, and it didnt have much info. I would be open to hearing about ALL tracks in the whole of either state, and of course public and private, as maybe i can make friends with people who have private ride spots. 

Thanks in Advance

 

Dan 

BT747 wrote:

Not az or ut, but I think you want Denver if you want a serious moto scene. 

never really considered CO, i have been to Denver once, liked it but wasnt there too long tbh. I know they have the track just outside the city they race the national at, lots of others too?

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i looked up the videos on youtube, that track looks cool. lots of elevation it looks like and just looks like its totally hidden, just a...

i looked up the videos on youtube, that track looks cool. lots of elevation it looks like and just looks like its totally hidden, just a bare track no facilities or anything, looks absolutely wild. Looks like a FAST track. id love to ride it one day, i feel like i would need to be better LOL 

Yes much elevation and very fast. I'm way out in the sticks so not many find there way here but it's worth the trip.

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I quit trying to do ride days as no one wanted to donate to help support me but if you want to ride you just need to ask.

I appreciate your willingness to come help out (and I'm sure you are sincere) but I've heard that so many times I know better.

All I ask is donate at least as much (more is better) as you would at a public track where you have to wait your turn then get 15 min on a beat up track then wait a couple hours for another 15.

I'm open to a group of at least 10 to 12 riders with a bit of disposable income that want a truly awesome moto experience to come ride whenever, Put in some effort and support and help provide yourself with an awesome place you can always ride crowd free. I'm just looking for enough funds to help on fuel and tractor parts etc.. to keep the track in good condition. I have already spent the big money building the track and if others want to ride they will have to support it. I'm okay either way as I will be riding as I built it for my self anyway and do not require any one else for that. Riding here is a privilege not a right and folks need to act like it.

Donations is key I can't charge a fee as then I would need to buy insurance and hire lawyers and I'm not into running a public track but don't mind quality folks coming to ride.

There is just something about folks that say they will take care of me but after the've ridden all day and are now deciding how much they want to donate figure hey I'm done, had my fun might as well stiff this guy what can he do.

I'm tired of folks with low ethics, zero integrity and broke they can go elsewhere.

You are from Vegas so probably cool I have recieved good donations from Vegas folks in the past so at least you have that going for you.

Cheers

 

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i looked up the videos on youtube, that track looks cool. lots of elevation it looks like and just looks like its totally hidden, just a...

i looked up the videos on youtube, that track looks cool. lots of elevation it looks like and just looks like its totally hidden, just a bare track no facilities or anything, looks absolutely wild. Looks like a FAST track. id love to ride it one day, i feel like i would need to be better LOL 

motomojo wrote:

Yes much elevation and very fast. I'm way out in the sticks so not many find there way here but it's worth the trip.

I would love to ride it one day. I dont know if im fast enough for it right now, but id give it a shot. Ive ridden glen helen, the hills can be scary lol. 

 

in regards to your other post, i would gladly donate a track entrance amount before any riding ever happens!!!! teach me how to use the tractors and ill put in work too. 

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I would love to ride it one day. I dont know if im fast enough for it right now, but id give it a shot. Ive...

I would love to ride it one day. I dont know if im fast enough for it right now, but id give it a shot. Ive ridden glen helen, the hills can be scary lol. 

 

in regards to your other post, i would gladly donate a track entrance amount before any riding ever happens!!!! teach me how to use the tractors and ill put in work too. 

Any time and you don't have to be fast to enjoy it. It is very fast and the faster you go the more it flows but it's set up to be very forgiving for vets and novices, beginners eh it may be a bit intimidating for some but overall it's a well balanced track for all levels.

As far as working the track it's more hand work than tractor work. To keep it rock free requires a lot of tedious hand raking to keep it from getting stupid. I hate doing it it's so boring but it's good exercise and I like hanging out on the track.                                                           Most of the track it's not a big issue but there are a couple sections that need constant attention.

I hate rocks on a track so I probably get a bit too anal about it but it sure pays off when riding.

As tracks continue to close and the remaing few get more crowded getting to know your local private track owner may be something to think about.

 

Cheers

 

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I would love to ride it one day. I dont know if im fast enough for it right now, but id give it a shot. Ive...

I would love to ride it one day. I dont know if im fast enough for it right now, but id give it a shot. Ive ridden glen helen, the hills can be scary lol. 

 

in regards to your other post, i would gladly donate a track entrance amount before any riding ever happens!!!! teach me how to use the tractors and ill put in work too. 

motomojo wrote:
Any time and you don't have to be fast to enjoy it. It is very fast and the faster you go the more it flows but...

Any time and you don't have to be fast to enjoy it. It is very fast and the faster you go the more it flows but it's set up to be very forgiving for vets and novices, beginners eh it may be a bit intimidating for some but overall it's a well balanced track for all levels.

As far as working the track it's more hand work than tractor work. To keep it rock free requires a lot of tedious hand raking to keep it from getting stupid. I hate doing it it's so boring but it's good exercise and I like hanging out on the track.                                                           Most of the track it's not a big issue but there are a couple sections that need constant attention.

I hate rocks on a track so I probably get a bit too anal about it but it sure pays off when riding.

As tracks continue to close and the remaing few get more crowded getting to know your local private track owner may be something to think about.

 

Cheers

 

good to know, id help out how ever needed. whenever i am going to be in AZ again (before i may move) ill message you and see if your around and ill bring my bike and try it out!! 

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disforcfc wrote:
good to know, id help out how ever needed. whenever i am going to be in AZ again (before i may move) ill message you and...

good to know, id help out how ever needed. whenever i am going to be in AZ again (before i may move) ill message you and see if your around and ill bring my bike and try it out!! 

Got your message but I can't reply the vital massaging system has never worked for me I can receive but can't send for some reason. Best to send email it's on my page.

Cheers

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