Yami and Honda deals... last bike you will ever buy?

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Edited Date/Time 1/25/2012 11:21pm
With the deals Yamaha and Honda are offering right now, are there are going to be riders that will do this deal then never buy another bike again?

The huge cash rebates and 0 interest and 0 payments for 12 months and 0 down seem like a great deal at the moment and will push some sales that would have never happened.

Is this a good thing?

For a guy who already was not in a position to buy a bike, is going for this deal is good plan?

What will his bike be worth in one year after he has made NO payments on it yet?
How much will he still OWE on this loan?
Will his bike last the 6 years of riding from purchase date?
Will he stay in the sport after he has to sell his bike for less than half what he owes on it in three years?

The no payments for 12 months and cash back look great up front, but the back side of this will come back to bite.
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Can you finance a dirt bike for 6 years?
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No but if you finance it for 5 and have no payments for a year, is that 6? I havent looked into it, but I assume they are doing a 5 year loan at least. One way or other it looks like they are burying people who can not buy one outright. Looks like they are desperate to sell machines. If you are legitimately in the market for a bike, you can steal em now.
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I know you can get an "08 Honda 450 FOR LESS THAN 5500 otd right now

probably be the last bike you will need to buy...as the EFI models do not offer much other than being EFI
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swtwtwtw wrote:
I know you can get an "08 Honda 450 FOR LESS THAN 5500 otd right now probably be the last bike you will need to buy...as...
I know you can get an "08 Honda 450 FOR LESS THAN 5500 otd right now

probably be the last bike you will need to buy...as the EFI models do not offer much other than being EFI
You can get an 08 Honda for around $4-4.5k right now.

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Once the no interest is up say hello to huge interest. Read the fine print. Pay as much as you can afford every month, put down as much as you can afford.
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I didnt realize the interest went up. Looks like these folks will be buried even worse than I thought. These may be the last bikes they will ever buy because they will be paying for them long after the bike is gone. Slim chance they will still be in the sport in 2012 if they have no bike left and are still writing a check every month.
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10/21/2009 6:10pm
I dont think this offer is new. We bought my '97 YZ250 on the same offer. Of course, bikes were much cheaper then.
10/21/2009 6:16pm Edited Date/Time 10/21/2009 6:17pm
Wolfman wrote:
I dont think this offer is new. We bought my '97 YZ250 on the same offer. Of course, bikes were much cheaper then.
Exactly. This is nothing new. You could have found these types of deals for the last 15 years on bikes, furniture, appliances, etc. Just another 2T lover throwing a weak ass jab.



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2T42 wrote:
I didnt realize the interest went up. Looks like these folks will be buried even worse than I thought. These may be the last bikes they...
I didnt realize the interest went up. Looks like these folks will be buried even worse than I thought. These may be the last bikes they will ever buy because they will be paying for them long after the bike is gone. Slim chance they will still be in the sport in 2012 if they have no bike left and are still writing a check every month.
yes and no. i work for a honda dealer and here is my take on the scoop. if you have good credit, we will sell a brand new 08 crf 450 for $4500, and you would be wise to get a regular bank loan on it and pay $130 for 3 year (or close to that figure). if you use honda credit, you may get the interest rate special and no pay plan and what not, but the bike cant get sold at $4500. when you choose different pay options, the price will fluctuate based on the rebates that can be applied and when honda will see the money for the bike.
our biggest dillemma is that the special deals honda gives the 18-24 range, ends up biting them in the ass, and within 2 years they have almost hit rock bottom, and we end up turning away the very customer we are trying to attract. what i essentialy mean in bad end of the spectrum way, is that the customers that choose the no pay way and special interest deal, end up tanking on the payment plan, the interest rate balloons to 24% and the bike ends up costing you double what it should have been. therefore making said customer unable to pay for the bike, it gets repoed, and they arent able to buy a bike again for quite some time.
in the long run, the prices of the bikes are great, be smart on how you buy them, and you will find yourself enjoying many more new bikes. besides, how can you beat $4500 for a brand new bike that costs $7500??!!
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I've never financed a dirt bike.......it would kill me to make payments on something that gets cartwheeled on a semi-regular basis.
Not many people keep bikes for 5 years.
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The folks that are buying a bike they can't afford won't let a simple thing like oweing twice what a bike is worth stop them.

They will purchase that bike and make minimal payments as long as they can and then they'll find another bike they want (usually a CBR1000 or similar) and they'll go trade in their bike they owe $4500 on for around $2000. The bike shop will then sell it for $2800 and sell them a $9,000 crotch rocket for $11,500.

When they are tired of that bike (if they don't get killed on it) they will go trade it in on a Mustang or some tuner car and pay the $7,000 they owe on the bike along with the new car.

In the end, they never pay for anything and find out 4 years later that they have a $600 car note on a 2002 Ford Ranger pick-up.
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there are killer deals right now.
and those same rebates and finance programs have happened in the past as well


the only thing "new" here:
is that even with the programs and rebates ,the bikes still arnt selling.
just how it is..
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When I bought my 07 Honda had a 3.99% good for five years.

I have a sled that I bought with the same deal for interest, and payments were $79. But if the sled was not paid off in 2 years the interest went to 24% Also if it was not paid off they will go back and charge that interest that would have accumulated over the time of the loan from the purchese.

Those are the ones you have to watch......

My brother got sucked into one of these deals right out of high school. I think he is still paying on a Banshee from Yamaha from a long time ago. He did not even have a job (and he had no business taking out the loan) but the bank still gave him the cash.

Irresponsible on both ends......
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AJ wrote:
there are killer deals right now. and those same rebates and finance programs have happened in the past as well the only thing "new" here: is...
there are killer deals right now.
and those same rebates and finance programs have happened in the past as well


the only thing "new" here:
is that even with the programs and rebates ,the bikes still arnt selling.
just how it is..
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rallendude wrote:
The folks that are buying a bike they can't afford won't let a simple thing like oweing twice what a bike is worth stop them. They...
The folks that are buying a bike they can't afford won't let a simple thing like oweing twice what a bike is worth stop them.

They will purchase that bike and make minimal payments as long as they can and then they'll find another bike they want (usually a CBR1000 or similar) and they'll go trade in their bike they owe $4500 on for around $2000. The bike shop will then sell it for $2800 and sell them a $9,000 crotch rocket for $11,500.

When they are tired of that bike (if they don't get killed on it) they will go trade it in on a Mustang or some tuner car and pay the $7,000 they owe on the bike along with the new car.

In the end, they never pay for anything and find out 4 years later that they have a $600 car note on a 2002 Ford Ranger pick-up.
The only thing you left out was that they then flip the Ranger in a ditch while driving drunk and total it out. They didn't realize that the salesman not only financed them $13,500.00 upside down , but also financed the extended warranty in the 72 month note along with gap insurance which in turn pays off the balance of the loan and the irresponsible little fuckers get to start over with a clean slate.
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catatonic wrote:
I've never financed a dirt bike.......it would kill me to make payments on something that gets cartwheeled on a semi-regular basis. Not many people keep bikes...
I've never financed a dirt bike.......it would kill me to make payments on something that gets cartwheeled on a semi-regular basis.
Not many people keep bikes for 5 years.
I know thats right. I would hate to write the check after a big crash.
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rallendude wrote:
The folks that are buying a bike they can't afford won't let a simple thing like oweing twice what a bike is worth stop them. They...
The folks that are buying a bike they can't afford won't let a simple thing like oweing twice what a bike is worth stop them.

They will purchase that bike and make minimal payments as long as they can and then they'll find another bike they want (usually a CBR1000 or similar) and they'll go trade in their bike they owe $4500 on for around $2000. The bike shop will then sell it for $2800 and sell them a $9,000 crotch rocket for $11,500.

When they are tired of that bike (if they don't get killed on it) they will go trade it in on a Mustang or some tuner car and pay the $7,000 they owe on the bike along with the new car.

In the end, they never pay for anything and find out 4 years later that they have a $600 car note on a 2002 Ford Ranger pick-up.
That's funny dude......so funny. I had a buddy who bought a new YZ125 and decided that it wasn't "fast enough" for him so he bought a new CRF450 and found out quick it was too much for him to handle. When he did the math he ended up owing over ten thousand for a bike he couldn't ride. I bought it off him a year later for 3200 bucks and he still couldn't pay off the bike. I rode it for a year and gave it back to him to sell off to pay his remaining balance. With interest he paid something like 15 grand for 2 bikes he only rode for a few months each.
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10/22/2009 9:12am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 2:53am
The 0 down, 0 payments, 0% interest Yamaha Card is how I got all of my bikes in '06 & '07 to race. I was getting a good price on them, so I was never getting too upside down. I actually put Yamaha Finance Card on my radiator shrouds in '07 SX.

I never held on to any of the bikes longer than 12 months:
I would either sell it after 4 or 5 months for a few hundred less than I paid, pay off the loan and immediately start a new one. OR
I knew what I could get at the end of the year for my used bike, so I would make sure to save up enough money to be able to pay off the loan when I sold it after 10 or 11 months.

You just have to be smart with it, because the interest rate after 12 months is ridiculous. It is how I was able to go racing with a practice and race bike.
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AJ wrote:
there are killer deals right now. and those same rebates and finance programs have happened in the past as well the only thing "new" here: is...
there are killer deals right now.
and those same rebates and finance programs have happened in the past as well


the only thing "new" here:
is that even with the programs and rebates ,the bikes still arnt selling.
just how it is..
agreed they are not selling AND the ones that are selling are a good deal for the consumer right now. But the low/no profit margin on the bikes puts the dealers in a bad spot. OVERALL its a not a good time
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i got my 09450f for $5000 ..a white yammie

first 450 i have ever owned
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were are you guys finding the good deals on the 08 honda 450
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Im still waiting to get an 09 Honda 450 for 5,000$. I figure by Feb. they should be there.
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-eagle- wrote:
were are you guys finding the good deals on the 08 honda 450
I saw 3995.00 in AZ on cycle trader but most are in the $4500 range right now.The AZ place told me 43hundred and change OTD.
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-eagle- wrote:
were are you guys finding the good deals on the 08 honda 450
Cygnus wrote:
I saw 3995.00 in AZ on cycle trader but most are in the $4500 range right now.The AZ place told me 43hundred and change OTD.
Bullshit!


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HA ! What 125 were riding before the 450?
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Cygnus wrote:
HA ! What 125 were riding before the 450?
'99 YZ.


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What if a person acted responsibly and paid the bike off during the 1st 12 months and actually took advantage of FREE MONEY (for 12 months)?!?!?

That's what it is.

FREE MONEY for 12 months.

A person can buy a bike for $4500 and take 12 months to pay for it...interest free.

What's the DOWN SIDE, again?

THE SKY IS FALLING!

THE SKY IS FALLING!

The Internet...IT's worse than REALITY T.V.
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10/22/2009 4:30pm Edited Date/Time 10/22/2009 4:41pm
Dbl post 'cause I'm a 'tard or our server's actin' up, again.
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castloo424 wrote:
The 0 down, 0 payments, 0% interest Yamaha Card is how I got all of my bikes in '06 & '07 to race. I was getting...
The 0 down, 0 payments, 0% interest Yamaha Card is how I got all of my bikes in '06 & '07 to race. I was getting a good price on them, so I was never getting too upside down. I actually put Yamaha Finance Card on my radiator shrouds in '07 SX.

I never held on to any of the bikes longer than 12 months:
I would either sell it after 4 or 5 months for a few hundred less than I paid, pay off the loan and immediately start a new one. OR
I knew what I could get at the end of the year for my used bike, so I would make sure to save up enough money to be able to pay off the loan when I sold it after 10 or 11 months.

You just have to be smart with it, because the interest rate after 12 months is ridiculous. It is how I was able to go racing with a practice and race bike.
Smart way to do it, but I bet the finance company considers you a "deadbeat".
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Or after 11 months, go to your own credit union and get bought out of the contract at a more familiar APR.

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