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4/10/2023 9:57am Edited Date/Time 4/10/2023 9:58am
So let me get this right. Never before has there been people having allergic reactions at SX race held indoors in Az except the one year...

So let me get this right. Never before has there been people having allergic reactions at SX race held indoors in Az except the one year the race was held during the worst time of the year for pollen and of the 55,000 + attendees a small percentage had allergic reactions because they didn't vent the stadium correctly?

So did the guy in charge of turning on the vents forget? Or maybe the dude who was supposed to throw the switch to open the top went home early?

All I am saying is that when you take high concentrations of pollen, mix in dust and gas fumes and sit in a confined area for an extended period of time you are going to get a pollinated super cocktail.

Seems to me that the people who feel they were gassed are ignoring the fact that if it was toxic gas fumes most, not a small percentage of the people would have been overcome.

People are describing dust /pollen allergic reactions (red/ scratchy/ watery eyes, a scratchy throat, clogged noses - not the effects of inhaling gas fumes - dizziness, nausea and an extreme headache.

If it was just gas fumes you would have had a much more severe reaction, not just a basic allergic reaction.

Next year it will be back on schedule to be in February.  I don't think I am going to far out on a limb predicting that just like every other race held in the stadium during February hardly anyone will be complaining about the air quality.

Just say'n...

G-man wrote:
"and of the 55,000 + attendees a small percentage had allergic reactions because they didn't vent the stadium correctly?" Where are you getting your small percentage...

"and of the 55,000 + attendees a small percentage had allergic reactions because they didn't vent the stadium correctly?"

Where are you getting your small percentage #'s from-- VitalMX? Cheerful

Have you interviewed the 55,000 in attendance? I'm willing to bet your small percentage # would change significantly. 

Didn't you know? The barren Arizona desert is the only place in the country that had recent rain, flowers, and springtime. Phoenix was in the direct path of a precision long-distance pine tree pollen attack.  Glad it wasn't worse, because I've never seen a pine tree before coming from the northeast. 

This fucking site sometimes, man 😂

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4/10/2023 10:11am Edited Date/Time 4/10/2023 10:13am
BobbyMyers wrote:

Chinese fireworks, fuggen commies. Prolly contaminated covid laced with fireworks

 

As funny as that is there's some truth to that.  Is there one person on here that thinks the Chinese are concerned what goes into their fireworks?

 And yes the haze initially started when they shot off all the FIREWORKS! Combine that with the TOXIC fumes from RACE FUEL and you have a bad combo.

It was just a big cloud of SMOKE that spread and they kept the freaking retractable roof CLOSED!

What kind of idiots are running the show when they have a million dollar roof that opens and they shoot off fireworks and keep it closed? Whistling

Well they were concerned to roll the grass out at least. Laughing

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You can see the haze slightly in this picture. 

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4/10/2023 10:17am
JJO741 wrote:
I posted this on the race thread and a couple other posters are experiencing similar symptoms; but is anyone else’s eyes screwed up right now? Since...

I posted this on the race thread and a couple other posters are experiencing similar symptoms; but is anyone else’s eyes screwed up right now? Since the end of the night, my eyes have been irritated beyond belief and my nose has been running non stop. This is my first experience in a stadium like State Farm and wondering if anyone else has had similar situations and what they did to help relieve the symptoms. 

 Monday morning and still having issues 

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 Monday morning and still having issues 

D.K.O.N. wrote:

Looks exactly like my eyes right now. 

Mine too....Angry

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4/10/2023 10:18am

I am having the same issues. I woke up Sunday morning and my wife said I looked extremely hungover which I wasn't. I am shocked they didn't open the roof all the way at least for the night show. 

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4/10/2023 10:46am
FGR01 wrote:

May be an image of crowd

Thanks for that picture and yes the cloud plume got much worse as the fireworks continued on. 

Why they do this and keep the roof closed makes no sense. 

 Went to the Suns game yesterday and they shoot off fire and flames but no fireworks. 

The staff is not that dumb I guess at Footprint Center arena.340022956 2168841583505680 7880461603536826148 n.jpg?VersionId=O4KFI4YK3MYQ4mdkImWasdc 3GN5e

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4/10/2023 10:50am
AMDnutt wrote:
Seeing this thread was a shock to me - we went to both Indy and Detroit and experienced the same symptoms. Both of my sons more...

Seeing this thread was a shock to me - we went to both Indy and Detroit and experienced the same symptoms. Both of my sons more so than me. Eyes were bloodshot as hell, hoarse voice and a persistent cough. Thought it was cold symptoms after Indy but then a week later Detroit caused the same things again but didn't seem quite as bad. We did leave Detroit stadium for fresh air and to get drinks from our car in the middle of the day so that may have helped. Couldn't be pollen as Indy and Detroit both were cold and basically still winter....

It has been several weeks and both of my sons still have a slight persistent cough...

We have went for many years and not experienced this before so we are all wondering what is up. Only thing that I did notice different was the smoke being released prior to the start of the evening right before opening ceremonies. I don't remember this from before and it seemed to really hang in the air all night...

I am going to keep up on this thread, hopefully someone finds out more info.... 

I had a couple buddies with me that went to Indy the week before, and we were all at Detroit. No symptoms, we were row 17. I did notice the fuel smell more than I normally do at Lucas Oil but it wasn't near as bad as some arenacross' I've been to. Maybe it is higher seats (What row were you?)? 

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4/10/2023 10:59am

Six of us all had blazed eyes and got stuffy

4/10/2023 11:01am

This wasn’t allergies.  My wife and I have gone to every SX held in Glendale.  I work out in the desert everyday.  Wife has really bad seasonal allergies but was 100% fine before the night show.  We both are still very ill from whatever the problem was.  The roof should have been opened more.  Someone at Feld or State Farm stadium dropped the ball.  Even back at the hotel that night and yesterday morning, EVERYONE was looking terrible and complaining of these symptoms.

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4/10/2023 11:29am

By the time I got back to our hotel, i couldn't breath out of my nose at all!! Completely congested. Then Sunday morning, it felt like I had a cross between gravel and acid in my eyes....and they were super red. I actually had a dentist appointment this morning, and she asked "have you been sick? your throat is super red!"

 

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4/10/2023 1:06pm

I'm curious, has there been any mention from the Teams or Riders having any of these issues?

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4/10/2023 1:08pm
Titanium wrote:

I'm curious, has there been any mention from the Teams or Riders having any of these issues?

Will Hahn posted on Twitter about being jacked up from it.

WTF, seriously. They can't be poisoning tens of thousands of people!

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4/10/2023 1:09pm
Titanium wrote:

I'm curious, has there been any mention from the Teams or Riders having any of these issues?

Did you see barcia at the post race presser ??

 

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4/10/2023 1:10pm
FGR01 wrote:

May be an image of crowd

G-man wrote:
Thanks for that picture and yes the cloud plume got much worse as the fireworks continued on.  Why they do this and keep the roof closed...

Thanks for that picture and yes the cloud plume got much worse as the fireworks continued on. 

Why they do this and keep the roof closed makes no sense. 

 Went to the Suns game yesterday and they shoot off fire and flames but no fireworks. 

The staff is not that dumb I guess at Footprint Center arena.340022956 2168841583505680 7880461603536826148 n.jpg?VersionId=O4KFI4YK3MYQ4mdkImWasdc 3GN5e

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That is so strange that with a firework show like they have at Supercross, they'd keep the roof almost completely closed, it's not as if there was a threat of rain in Phoenix on Saturday night.  I don't trust ANYTHING! that comes out of China and if those fireworks come from there, who knows what kind of chemicals they use to mix together in those rockets.  First they bombard the world with a Biological Covid Bomb and now maybe they're attacking America with Fireworks made out of poisonous substances. No wonder they didn't want to shoot down that Chinese Balloon over America, that thing could have been filled with the latest and most lethal variant of Covid for all we know. 

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4/10/2023 1:13pm

Watching the race replay now.

Even at the start of the 1st 250 moto, the place looked like a fog bank had rolled in.

White.

Not the green haze of pollen.

Not the brown color of track dust.

 

But at that time could there have been enough moto action on track to cause enough fumes to give so many people such a bad reaction  ??

 

Who made the pyrotechnics  ??

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4/10/2023 1:21pm

I was at the event and I my eyes started burning pretty bad after the second set of races. 

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4/10/2023 1:24pm
D.K.O.N. wrote:

My eyes are still fucked up. I've never had allergies in my entire life, not sure what's going on, but my eyes still look like shit. 

Bunk weed? 

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4/10/2023 1:43pm

I don’t think it was the pyrotechnics. I noticed my eyes burning during qualifying, hours before the opening ceremony started.

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4/10/2023 1:44pm

I kept waiting for the sun to go down...thinking that they would open it then...but nope...never touched it.

 

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4/10/2023 2:40pm
CSAR FE wrote:

I don’t think it was the pyrotechnics. I noticed my eyes burning during qualifying, hours before the opening ceremony started.

You make a valid point we went to the daytime practice and qualifying As soon as you entered the stadium it hits you like a ton of bricks and for 2 seconds I like the smell of napalm errrr I mean Race Fuel. After that it got real old fast.

 So after Qualifying we went back out to the  Van to barbecue, by the time we re-entered the stadium my eyes were already bloodshot red and slight burn not nearly as bad as later that night and next day.

 But I'm sure shooting off Chinese fireworks with a barely cracked open roof did not help any because the LARGE plume of smoke from the opening ceremonies stayed the whole event.

 I have not been to the Glendale supercross since the 1st one as our crew had an awesome tailgate spot at Chase field and weren't happy with the LONG drive from the east Valley. 

 I don't think I'll be going back if it's gonna be like this again.

To the other guys who have been to the Glendale Supercross on a regular basis is this the 1st time you've experienced the burning red eye sensation?

 Someone who knows the big-wigs of Feld really need to be alerted of this buffoonery.

 

 

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4/10/2023 3:35pm

Do they check fuel for oxidizers? Toluene ,benzine  . if no testing is going on I'd be running a tricked fuel,easiest way to make horsepower.

Dust would show up when blowing a snot rocket.

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4/10/2023 3:43pm
G-man wrote:
You make a valid point we went to the daytime practice and qualifying As soon as you entered the stadium it hits you like a ton...

You make a valid point we went to the daytime practice and qualifying As soon as you entered the stadium it hits you like a ton of bricks and for 2 seconds I like the smell of napalm errrr I mean Race Fuel. After that it got real old fast.

 So after Qualifying we went back out to the  Van to barbecue, by the time we re-entered the stadium my eyes were already bloodshot red and slight burn not nearly as bad as later that night and next day.

 But I'm sure shooting off Chinese fireworks with a barely cracked open roof did not help any because the LARGE plume of smoke from the opening ceremonies stayed the whole event.

 I have not been to the Glendale supercross since the 1st one as our crew had an awesome tailgate spot at Chase field and weren't happy with the LONG drive from the east Valley. 

 I don't think I'll be going back if it's gonna be like this again.

To the other guys who have been to the Glendale Supercross on a regular basis is this the 1st time you've experienced the burning red eye sensation?

 Someone who knows the big-wigs of Feld really need to be alerted of this buffoonery.

 

 

I’ve been to every event they’ve held there, plus the previous 6 or 8 downtown. I’ve never experienced this before in either venue. Then again, I don’t think I’ve ever been there this time of year. I feel like it was a perfect storm type of scenario and, PS: my eyes are still burning.  

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4/10/2023 3:44pm
YLLIBLLIH wrote:
Do they check fuel for oxidizers? Toluene ,benzine  . if no testing is going on I'd be running a tricked fuel,easiest way to make horsepower. Dust...

Do they check fuel for oxidizers? Toluene ,benzine  . if no testing is going on I'd be running a tricked fuel,easiest way to make horsepower.

Dust would show up when blowing a snot rocket.

Valid point about the snot rockets. I did shoot off a couple but wasn’t able to properly inspect them. 

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4/10/2023 3:46pm

We sat in the upper 400 section at Indy and upper at Detroit... worst place I guess.

In years past, the pyro smoke dissipated quickly but this year it hung in the air at both venues. Makes me think the air handlers were not working properly....

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4/10/2023 4:06pm

Wasn't a one time thing. Had this issue the first time they held a race at this stadium. Year after I sat at the bottom and didn't have an issue. 

They should move this race back to the ballpark!

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4/10/2023 4:17pm

For all who are claiming this as "allergies" are f'n morons! You have a dome filled with toxic fumes with a supposed professional crew running the show and you do not open the roof to relieve the mass of cloudy gasses?? 

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4/10/2023 5:14pm Edited Date/Time 4/10/2023 5:15pm

According to Team Green the negative pressure from the slight crack in the roof pulled in all the pollen around the stadium to wreck havoc on all the race goers and kept all the residents of the area not in attendance safe from the pollen 😂

Almost like we could use some media to get to the bottom of this 🤷‍♂️

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4/10/2023 5:44pm Edited Date/Time 4/10/2023 8:42pm

Were the tunnels open when the roof was opened, If not the roof open only doesn’t do much?  For a “natural draft”, that would matter,  there needs to be an air inlet to create draft as the hot air rises. 
 

in saying all that, over 40ish years of attending SX races I have had similar symptoms as being described happen a few times from different locations. I’m pretty sure they teeter on the exposure limits at these events. Not necessarily a single point exceedence level but more on the Time Waited Average exposure limit. 

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4/10/2023 5:46pm Edited Date/Time 4/10/2023 5:50pm

Buddy and I went to the races and sat in the 400 section.  Buddy had red eyes and complain about his lungs, eyes and throat, but he does drink Budweiser and mascow mules.  I felt ok, but suffered boredom after six boring TCM (triple crown mains).

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4/10/2023 6:11pm Edited Date/Time 4/10/2023 6:12pm

So over the years there has been hundreds maybe even thousands of races and I have never heard of this happening until it happened for the first time last year at minneapolis (I think it was). 
 

Now come this year and theres been no complaints all year until last weekend and now you have dozens and dozens of ppl all saying the exact same thing after that race. 
 

Something is clearly happening to where you hear absolutely nothing after each race and then all of a sudden everybody is in agreeance that something went wrong and caused ppl issues at 2 specific races.
 

Feld owes it to the fans to get to the bottom of this and to let ppl know what the problem was and how theyre going to remedy it. Now that it has happened again this shows that this wasnt just some 1 time fluke last year thats never going to happen again. Now we are starting to see a pattern and ppl are going to be worried about it happening again moving forward. This needs to be investigated, fixed, and the fans assured it wont happen again. That shouldnt be too much to ask at all ppl dont want their kids getting sick at a fun family event. I have full confidence feld can fix the situation they just need to be transparent about it.

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4/10/2023 6:45pm

Feld employees on here posting dust and allergies caused this. Hilarious. 

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