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He said he like contact. He likes racing that way. His words, not mine.
Who gets to decide when the line gets crossed? Daddy Deegan I am sure.
Exactly. I think a lot of people need a rewatch of that heat.
So it is what he said that is unacceptable?
Hmmm?
So honest question, does anyone think KTM misses danger boy?
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Seen any orange on the 250 podium?
Probably. He's got more podiums as a Rookie in SX than their Factory 250 Effort has in it's existence.
*Yes, I know this isn't true....but let's be real, the KTM 250 program has pretty much perpetually sucked, I'm sure they'd love to have a podium threat like Deegan on board.*
So why the family leave KTM? Money? Better bike? Both..
Your guess is as good as mine.
Are you trying to spin this as KTM didn't want them? I HIGHLY doubt that was the case.
No not at all, I said honest question. As many years as they were a part of KTM just odd when they left for Yamaha. Kind of waste on KTM's part to let them get away after such a long relationship.
I think Brian talked about it in some interviews if I remember right, maybe with Gypsy Bro?
I think they wanted on the YZ250f and I'm sure the long term relationship with Monster played into it too. Woulda been hard to keep that while on a Factory Team for KTM.
Deegan was a free agent and they did their diligence very publicly with both teams. My guess is the final decision came down to a combination of race bike, team facilities, trainers, contract length and terms, the relationship with Monster, and Brian's relationship with Bobby R as a former sponsor of Star Racing. When you look at the state of KTM's 250 program it probably wasn't a very difficult decision but they gave KTM every opportunity.
JT$ from Racer X Breakdown
perfectly said.
Just my opinion, simple as that.
no this is perfectly said right here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjRYIBHrJTw
sure
The better question is where is the 250 talent for KTM because it sure isn't on the podium. Good press or bad press, if you're putting results, who really cares. Half the damn threads on Vital are about a 17yr old pro living in the heads of a bunch of has been bench racers. I'd have to say that's winning in my book. So many folks hated on Ricky when he burst on the scene, but now he's the GOAT living out his twilight years in the booth talking shit. Sounds about par for the course.
"The problem is when you enter the next turn, wait for your teammate, then try to pin him into the berm again."
Except, this did not happen.
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He did slow down and did make contact with him.
JT$ well balanced as usual, Deegan is a kid and got excited, Smith should have known better than get sucked into this. Shouldn’t have happened in a heat race, Deegans media advisors should have got him to walk it back a little in the press conference and everyone moves onto next week
That was the next turn.
Deegan did check up, let JS pass and then put a block pass on him in the next corner. (Did not punt him), that's called race craft, then JS let his ego get the best of him and tried to punt Deegan from the rear knocking his swingarm nearly 3 feet into the corner only to take his own self out. Play with fire, get burnt.
It’s nothing more nothing less, typical Deegan family scumbag move, on a teammate. I only wish JS was better at taking people out, instead of punting little D JS crashes. Like RC says if you’re going to take someone out don’t crash yourself
Solid first post.
Every pro 'vet' knows that the 250 class is a shit show because, big surprise, it's full of rookies, doing rookie shit. If you wanna stay in the rookie class, then be prepared for some rookie moves.
watch it and tell me where he's wrong. this is the most succinct, cleareyed account of what happened I've heard yet. I seriously can't see how anyone could watch this and not come away in agreeance.
Cause...Feelings.
And the Preparation H tube is empty.
So, my take.
Smith was much faster in the whoops, but he was on the outside. He did not make the pass. Deegan was correct to close the door. There was nothing dirty about this. I believe literally everyone would've done the same thing.
In the next corner, Deegan waited for Smith, and let him by. I don't know why. Once again, Deegan had the inside. He could've punted him, but he didn't. Possibly he felt like he was a bit too aggressive in the previous corner, and wanted to make things right. In my opinion, he should've simply raced forward. He would've been ahead of Smith.
Once Smith went past him, it was time to race forward again.
This is where Smith screwed himself.
On the way to the next corner, If racing forward, Smith would've taken the inside line as there was no way for Deegan to pass him. Instead, he slowed down, looked over his shoulder, then for no reason veered to the right, blocking Deegan, and not allowing either of them to progress.
Once Smith hit the throttle, Deegan cut to the inside and gave Smith a bump. Dirty? No. It wasn't that hard. Warranted? I believe so.
In the next corner Deegan was racing forward and in the race line. Smith was not. He was out for vengeance. He went wide, and knocked Deegan's rear wheel into the air and over a foot or 2. Deegan held his ground and somehow stayed on 2 wheels.
Smith went down because of his own actions.
The drama should've stopped after the first corner. Jordan did not make the pass.
The drama should've stopped after the second corner. Deegan let Jordan through.
After that, the drama was not going to end peacefully. Both were pissed. From what happened in this race, I don't think Jordan had a reason to be at all. For Deegan, only slightly.
One thing for sure, Deegan isn't going to be pushed around, no matter what the credentials of the other riders. To me, that's a good thing.
I hope they both learn from this. One lesson Deegan should learn, is that he shouldn't have let Smith by.
Race craft is not blocking a faster rider from passing you early in a heat race! Get passed try to learn why he's faster make a move later or take it to the main is race craft.. One of the reasons why Cooper Webb has 2 sx titles and Barcia has none..
But yes Smith took himself out when he got frustrated I would've been guilty of it too
Yeah the night would have been a whole lot better is Smitty would have waited a couple turns and punted him into the cheap seats.
Danger Boy FTW!
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