Ferrandis gnarly Daytona press day crash

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Edited Date/Time 3/3/2023 8:58pm

Crash is at 2:17 in the video. Happy to hear he is ok. Would rather see Dylan healthy for outdoors than risking it in SX at this point. 

 

 

 

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3/3/2023 9:01pm Edited Date/Time 3/3/2023 9:03pm

He almost landed that cliffhanger. 

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Oh man, that was uuuugly

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Dylan is developing a case of Cianciarulo syndrome.

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Ugghhh

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Dylan is developing a case of Cianciarulo syndrome.

Let's compare 450 stats. 

AC moved up in 2020 and has scored a total of 837pts.
AC has completed 39 races out of a possible 91 races. 
3 SX Podiums
8 MX Podiums including 2 wins

Ferrandis moved up in 2021 and has scored a total of 1008pts. 
Ferrandis has completed 45 races out of a possible 65 races. 
2 SX Podiums
12 MX Podiums including 6 wins
2021 450 MX Champion

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3/4/2023 2:00am

Chases 180 has got nothing on that forward flip cliffhanger. Glad to hear he is ok, some lucky bounces for the blue bikes this season.

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3/4/2023 2:30am

Dang it man. Love that kids heart to race. Hope he lines up.

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-MAVERICK- wrote:
Let's compare 450 stats.  AC moved up in 2020 and has scored a total of 837pts. AC has completed 39 races out of a possible 91...

Let's compare 450 stats. 

AC moved up in 2020 and has scored a total of 837pts.
AC has completed 39 races out of a possible 91 races. 
3 SX Podiums
8 MX Podiums including 2 wins

Ferrandis moved up in 2021 and has scored a total of 1008pts. 
Ferrandis has completed 45 races out of a possible 65 races. 
2 SX Podiums
12 MX Podiums including 6 wins
2021 450 MX Champion

They’re careers look pretty comparable to me. Especially when you consider how close to getting the 2020 outdoor title Adam was. Both of them would be better off giving up on SX at this point and be outdoor only if they can find a way to pay the bills doing that.

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3/4/2023 4:22am

My body aches just watching it!!

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3/4/2023 7:23am Edited Date/Time 3/4/2023 7:27am
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Let's compare 450 stats.  AC moved up in 2020 and has scored a total of 837pts. AC has completed 39 races out of a possible 91...

Let's compare 450 stats. 

AC moved up in 2020 and has scored a total of 837pts.
AC has completed 39 races out of a possible 91 races. 
3 SX Podiums
8 MX Podiums including 2 wins

Ferrandis moved up in 2021 and has scored a total of 1008pts. 
Ferrandis has completed 45 races out of a possible 65 races. 
2 SX Podiums
12 MX Podiums including 6 wins
2021 450 MX Champion

They’re careers look pretty comparable to me. Especially when you consider how close to getting the 2020 outdoor title Adam was. Both of them would be...

They’re careers look pretty comparable to me. Especially when you consider how close to getting the 2020 outdoor title Adam was. Both of them would be better off giving up on SX at this point and be outdoor only if they can find a way to pay the bills doing that.

Career Stats

AC

6 years racing 250 SX class.

2019 250 MX Champion.

2020 450 SX: 8 of 17 races. 15th o/a

2021 450 SX: 8 of 17 races. 16th o/a

2022 450 SX: 2 of 17 races. 29th o/a

2023 450 SX Results: 9, 8, 9, 10, 12, 15.

Ferrandis

4 years racing 250 SX class. 

2019 250 SX West Champion.

2020 250 SX West Champion.

2020 250 MX Champion.

2021 450 MX Champion.

2021 450 SX: 17 of 17 races. 7th o/a

2022 450 SX: 10 of 17 races. 11th o/a

2023 450 SX Results: 4, 6, 5, 21 (concussion)

If you want to deal in "ifs, ands, or buts" then Ferrandis was close to being the 2019 250 MX Champion. 

Ferrandis was riding a lot better this year and was on track to have his best season up until the Roczen incident that knocked him out which was out of his control. 

I can maybe see a case for you to say AC should give up on SX, but if Dylan needs to give up on it, then a lot of other guys should have called it a career years ago. 

Comparison of other riders in the 450 SX class (Overall Points Standings). I suppose some of them should have quit and teams given up on them after a couple of season. 

Malcolm Stewart: 15, 11, 30, 7, 6, 3.

Barcia: 4, 5, 15, 21, 18, 10, 13, 5, 4, 5. 

Seely: 3, 6, 7, 17, 7. 

Wilson: 28, 26, 8, 7, 6, 8, 11, 10.

Bogle: 11, 17, 35, 9, 24, 20, 13. 

Plessinger: 16, 11, 5, 19.

Osborne: 14, 6, 15. 

Savatgy: 8, 10, 28.

Webb: 13, 9, 1, 2, 1, 7.

Sexton: 12, 6.

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Our sport needs to be smarter with head injuries. Risking another concussion this soon after having one is a dangerous game.  
 

id love to see Dylan sit out the rest of SX and come back for outdoors. 

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3/4/2023 8:55am Edited Date/Time 3/4/2023 8:56am
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Let's compare 450 stats.  AC moved up in 2020 and has scored a total of 837pts. AC has completed 39 races out of a possible 91...

Let's compare 450 stats. 

AC moved up in 2020 and has scored a total of 837pts.
AC has completed 39 races out of a possible 91 races. 
3 SX Podiums
8 MX Podiums including 2 wins

Ferrandis moved up in 2021 and has scored a total of 1008pts. 
Ferrandis has completed 45 races out of a possible 65 races. 
2 SX Podiums
12 MX Podiums including 6 wins
2021 450 MX Champion

This is a case where you're losing sight of the forrest for the trees.  RolfCopter726's point is that much like AC, Dylan, with the exception of the 2021 450 National Title, is putting himself out of title contention either by crashing or getting injured. Here is your proof: Dylan was not a title threat in the 2022 sx series, and pulled out of the 2022 450 MX series before it began.  Ferrandis was supposed to race the last four rounds, but ended up only racing two rounds, and he's not a title threat in the 23 sx series. 

You can compare stats all you want, but at the end of the day, both riders have shown a propensity to put themselves out of title contention for most of their 450 careers so far due to either injuries or crashes.

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3/4/2023 9:01am

He almost landed that cliffhanger. 

Boo hoooo did that hurt your feelings Mr. thumbs down on this post. 

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3/4/2023 9:06am
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Let's compare 450 stats.  AC moved up in 2020 and has scored a total of 837pts. AC has completed 39 races out of a possible 91...

Let's compare 450 stats. 

AC moved up in 2020 and has scored a total of 837pts.
AC has completed 39 races out of a possible 91 races. 
3 SX Podiums
8 MX Podiums including 2 wins

Ferrandis moved up in 2021 and has scored a total of 1008pts. 
Ferrandis has completed 45 races out of a possible 65 races. 
2 SX Podiums
12 MX Podiums including 6 wins
2021 450 MX Champion

The Moth wrote:
This is a case where you're losing sight of the forrest for the trees.  RolfCopter726's point is that much like AC, Dylan, with the exception of...

This is a case where you're losing sight of the forrest for the trees.  RolfCopter726's point is that much like AC, Dylan, with the exception of the 2021 450 National Title, is putting himself out of title contention either by crashing or getting injured. Here is your proof: Dylan was not a title threat in the 2022 sx series, and pulled out of the 2022 450 MX series before it began.  Ferrandis was supposed to race the last four rounds, but ended up only racing two rounds, and he's not a title threat in the 23 sx series. 

You can compare stats all you want, but at the end of the day, both riders have shown a propensity to put themselves out of title contention for most of their 450 careers so far due to either injuries or crashes.

Yeah, Dylan has hit a rough patch. Sucks to be robbed of seeing these amazing talents be healthy.

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Made of rubber,....Gawd! Brutal!

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3/4/2023 9:55am Edited Date/Time 3/4/2023 9:57am
soggy wrote:
Our sport needs to be smarter with head injuries. Risking another concussion this soon after having one is a dangerous game.     id love to...

Our sport needs to be smarter with head injuries. Risking another concussion this soon after having one is a dangerous game.  
 

id love to see Dylan sit out the rest of SX and come back for outdoors. 

It's been 4 weeks... How much longer do you think he should take off? 14 weeks seems a bit excessive if you think outdoors is when he should return to racing...

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3/4/2023 10:11am

Good news for Dylan is that crash would have broken multiple bones for Herlings and ended yet another year for him.

Dylan is available to ride still.

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3/4/2023 11:28am

He has a good shot to be 2025 MXGP world champion.

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The bike was not taking that crash aloneShocked

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WCRider wrote:

He has a good shot to be 2025 MXGP world champion.

Its crazy guys like ferrandis would be making great money in the GPs but decide to come over and ride deathcross.Woohoo

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Dylan is developing a case of Cianciarulo syndrome.

-MAVERICK- wrote:
Let's compare 450 stats.  AC moved up in 2020 and has scored a total of 837pts. AC has completed 39 races out of a possible 91...

Let's compare 450 stats. 

AC moved up in 2020 and has scored a total of 837pts.
AC has completed 39 races out of a possible 91 races. 
3 SX Podiums
8 MX Podiums including 2 wins

Ferrandis moved up in 2021 and has scored a total of 1008pts. 
Ferrandis has completed 45 races out of a possible 65 races. 
2 SX Podiums
12 MX Podiums including 6 wins
2021 450 MX Champion

I think that is why he said “developing”. Your stats didn’t show anything after 2021 MX.

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Dylan is out for Daytona now. 

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I think that is why he said “developing”. Your stats didn’t show anything after 2021 MX.

The points and amount of races completed shown include MX and SX from their first 450 race up to Arlington 2023.

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3/4/2023 12:43pm Edited Date/Time 3/4/2023 12:44pm

I'm hearing Dylan is out for the night due to his crash yesterday.

 

Edit:  Just saw it was already mentioned above.

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The Moth wrote:

I'm hearing Dylan is out for the night due to his crash yesterday.

 

Edit:  Just saw it was already mentioned above.

Dang was looking forward to seeing him out there again!

3/4/2023 1:12pm Edited Date/Time 3/4/2023 5:18pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Let's compare 450 stats.  AC moved up in 2020 and has scored a total of 837pts. AC has completed 39 races out of a possible 91...

Let's compare 450 stats. 

AC moved up in 2020 and has scored a total of 837pts.
AC has completed 39 races out of a possible 91 races. 
3 SX Podiums
8 MX Podiums including 2 wins

Ferrandis moved up in 2021 and has scored a total of 1008pts. 
Ferrandis has completed 45 races out of a possible 65 races. 
2 SX Podiums
12 MX Podiums including 6 wins
2021 450 MX Champion

They’re careers look pretty comparable to me. Especially when you consider how close to getting the 2020 outdoor title Adam was. Both of them would be...

They’re careers look pretty comparable to me. Especially when you consider how close to getting the 2020 outdoor title Adam was. Both of them would be better off giving up on SX at this point and be outdoor only if they can find a way to pay the bills doing that.

-MAVERICK- wrote:
Career Stats AC 6 years racing 250 SX class. 2019 250 MX Champion. 2020 450 SX: 8 of 17 races. 15th o/a 2021 450 SX: 8...

Career Stats

AC

6 years racing 250 SX class.

2019 250 MX Champion.

2020 450 SX: 8 of 17 races. 15th o/a

2021 450 SX: 8 of 17 races. 16th o/a

2022 450 SX: 2 of 17 races. 29th o/a

2023 450 SX Results: 9, 8, 9, 10, 12, 15.

Ferrandis

4 years racing 250 SX class. 

2019 250 SX West Champion.

2020 250 SX West Champion.

2020 250 MX Champion.

2021 450 MX Champion.

2021 450 SX: 17 of 17 races. 7th o/a

2022 450 SX: 10 of 17 races. 11th o/a

2023 450 SX Results: 4, 6, 5, 21 (concussion)

If you want to deal in "ifs, ands, or buts" then Ferrandis was close to being the 2019 250 MX Champion. 

Ferrandis was riding a lot better this year and was on track to have his best season up until the Roczen incident that knocked him out which was out of his control. 

I can maybe see a case for you to say AC should give up on SX, but if Dylan needs to give up on it, then a lot of other guys should have called it a career years ago. 

Comparison of other riders in the 450 SX class (Overall Points Standings). I suppose some of them should have quit and teams given up on them after a couple of season. 

Malcolm Stewart: 15, 11, 30, 7, 6, 3.

Barcia: 4, 5, 15, 21, 18, 10, 13, 5, 4, 5. 

Seely: 3, 6, 7, 17, 7. 

Wilson: 28, 26, 8, 7, 6, 8, 11, 10.

Bogle: 11, 17, 35, 9, 24, 20, 13. 

Plessinger: 16, 11, 5, 19.

Osborne: 14, 6, 15. 

Savatgy: 8, 10, 28.

Webb: 13, 9, 1, 2, 1, 7.

Sexton: 12, 6.

Come on it’s a much more realistic “what if” scenario for Adam in 2020 who crashed, ruining his bike so he DNFd a moto, then lost the title by 12 points. Just like the 2019 SX series where Dylan was literally handed the title, when one of the most shocking moments in SX history happened. Dylan got very lucky in 2020 SX as well when Forkner crashed out spectacularly at the finale. That’s a lot different than 2019 outdoors where Adam was just straight up better than Dylan from start to finish.

Also, putting up what overall finish in a series someone got when they got hurt and only did a handful of races in that series doesn’t help your case…at all…literally a meaningless stat.

If either rider continues pursuing their SX career, chances of ever being champion in either discipline again are slim. But we will see

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