Okay, here's my MXdN "I was wrong"

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Edited Date/Time 1/16/2012 6:12am
I would still way prefer to see the event run on a natural terrain course, but YS pulled off a much better track than the preview images suggested. The event had a very good look to it.
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500guy 10/4/2009 1:32pm
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I agree, but I still think the race should be at a real outdoor track.

The same could be said about last year, I didn't like the man made track but it was very demanding and provided some great racing.
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OldTiddler 10/4/2009 1:34pm
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Wow. You should remain ashamed of yourself for questioning the quality of the venue.

How could you?

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FreshTopEnd 10/4/2009 1:34pm
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This year's looked light years better than last year's track to me.

Chris Cayford 10/4/2009 1:35pm
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The track was good IMO, certainly made for a spectacle, and I don't think anyone can say it was bias towards GP or AMA riders..

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joe101uk 10/4/2009 1:37pm
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I think YS are trying to get rid of the natural terrain circuits. It's all aimed at the spectators and for their viewing though.

I'd love to see the next years race at glen helen or red bud.
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500guy 10/4/2009 1:42pm
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joe101uk wrote:
I think YS are trying to get rid of the natural terrain circuits. It's all aimed at the spectators and for their viewing though. I'd love...
I think YS are trying to get rid of the natural terrain circuits. It's all aimed at the spectators and for their viewing though.

I'd love to see the next years race at glen helen or red bud.
That Colorado track is a real Track , there won't be any complaining about it not being real MX next year.
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jo2910 10/4/2009 1:46pm
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Well next three years will be on real tracks so why not one like this every once in a while. It was pretty good I thought
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joe101uk 10/4/2009 1:46pm
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Isn't it supposed to be hard getting your bike setup at that place ?
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joe101uk wrote:
I think YS are trying to get rid of the natural terrain circuits. It's all aimed at the spectators and for their viewing though. I'd love...
I think YS are trying to get rid of the natural terrain circuits. It's all aimed at the spectators and for their viewing though.

I'd love to see the next years race at glen helen or red bud.
If they're trying to get rid of natural terrain tracks, they sure blew that plan by going to Colorado next year. Wink

That was real MX today. Real *hard* MX.
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What was the general opinion of the MXDN track by the teams and riders?

Track looked pretty good to me once it roughed up. It had some decent airtime but fairly safe airtime.

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croom mx 10/4/2009 1:55pm
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Who's going to Colorado next year?
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joe101uk wrote:
I think YS are trying to get rid of the natural terrain circuits. It's all aimed at the spectators and for their viewing though. I'd love...
I think YS are trying to get rid of the natural terrain circuits. It's all aimed at the spectators and for their viewing though.

I'd love to see the next years race at glen helen or red bud.
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If they're trying to get rid of natural terrain tracks, they sure blew that plan by going to Colorado next year. That was real MX today...
If they're trying to get rid of natural terrain tracks, they sure blew that plan by going to Colorado next year. Wink

That was real MX today. Real *hard* MX.
I was talking about the European tracks. I should of explained it better.

It sure was real hard motocross you got that right. Today had everything.
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FreshTopEnd 10/4/2009 1:57pm
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joe101uk wrote:
Isn't it supposed to be hard getting your bike setup at that place ?
It'll be interesting to see if the altitude is an issue for man or machine. It seems like fi and night races took care of some or the issues when they first started running there. It should be a lot cooler for the MXdN than the summer national when they ran in the day.


I still think if they are bound to having the event at big motorsports facilities they should try to get to Sears Point/Infinion. Lots of elevation available there and it's in one of the world's premier travel destinations.
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What was the general opinion of the MXDN track by the teams and riders? Track looked pretty good to me once it roughed up. It had...
What was the general opinion of the MXDN track by the teams and riders?

Track looked pretty good to me once it roughed up. It had some decent airtime but fairly safe airtime.

I like some Air Time but not too much, if you know what I mean. It would be better if there were long sweeper turns that got rough. Have you ever seen a wide sweeper with 5 berms? That's what makes good racing.
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FreshTopEnd wrote:
It'll be interesting to see if the altitude is an issue for man or machine. It seems like fi and night races took care of some...
It'll be interesting to see if the altitude is an issue for man or machine. It seems like fi and night races took care of some or the issues when they first started running there. It should be a lot cooler for the MXdN than the summer national when they ran in the day.


I still think if they are bound to having the event at big motorsports facilities they should try to get to Sears Point/Infinion. Lots of elevation available there and it's in one of the world's premier travel destinations.
Nice venue pitch there, FTE. Just don't ask Obama to make a personal plea for you. That didn't seem to work out too well for Chicago. Wink

I think the teams have a much better handle on the altitude and heat issues than they did several years ago.
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Tiki 10/4/2009 2:05pm
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The track grew on me. At first I felt it was a little too odd. By the end of the weekend watching the event, I realize it really leveled out the field. The good riders adapted and it was impressive to watch David Philippaerts just ruin it.
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FreshTopEnd 10/4/2009 2:05pm
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It's a dream. It's not a venue pitch without $2-3 million.

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Tiki 10/4/2009 2:06pm
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joe101uk wrote:
Isn't it supposed to be hard getting your bike setup at that place ?
FreshTopEnd wrote:
It'll be interesting to see if the altitude is an issue for man or machine. It seems like fi and night races took care of some...
It'll be interesting to see if the altitude is an issue for man or machine. It seems like fi and night races took care of some or the issues when they first started running there. It should be a lot cooler for the MXdN than the summer national when they ran in the day.


I still think if they are bound to having the event at big motorsports facilities they should try to get to Sears Point/Infinion. Lots of elevation available there and it's in one of the world's premier travel destinations.
I would never think of Sears Point as a premier travel destination, but what do I know? I would however like to see the tracks break out of the usual and try something new like that.
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500guy 10/4/2009 2:07pm
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The heat was the biggest issue, the altitude makes the bikes run about 3% less power but the biggest issue is the heat together with altitude causing the gas to boil. now that they have fuel injection the adjustments are instant and the gas is under pressure and that causes it not to turn into vapor so easily.

At the end of the day the bikes run noticeably different and the riders bodies will be getting less oxygen.
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joe101uk 10/4/2009 2:09pm
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joe101uk wrote:
Isn't it supposed to be hard getting your bike setup at that place ?
FreshTopEnd wrote:
It'll be interesting to see if the altitude is an issue for man or machine. It seems like fi and night races took care of some...
It'll be interesting to see if the altitude is an issue for man or machine. It seems like fi and night races took care of some or the issues when they first started running there. It should be a lot cooler for the MXdN than the summer national when they ran in the day.


I still think if they are bound to having the event at big motorsports facilities they should try to get to Sears Point/Infinion. Lots of elevation available there and it's in one of the world's premier travel destinations.
Hopefully the smaller teams that turn up will get a helping hand with their setup. I have a feeling that most riders will be on EFI bikes by then anyway.
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FreshTopEnd 10/4/2009 2:13pm
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You don't think the Napa Valley and San Francisco bay area is a premier travel destination, especially in the fall, perhaps the best weather season for the area?


Sears is surrounded by wineries, terrific places to dine, one of the most photogenic cities in the world, a spectacular coastline, spectacular road rides available, all within a hour or so of the track. Almost zero chance of rain and almost guaranteed mid 70's to mid 80's temps.


There are a ton of reasons for someone coming from elsewhere in the world to pack a lot in the week.


There's my chamber of commerce pitch
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Sabrina197 10/4/2009 2:14pm
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croom mx wrote:
Who's going to Colorado next year?
I'm hoping I can make it next year.
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roosty 10/4/2009 2:16pm
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croom mx wrote:
Who's going to Colorado next year?
Sabrina197 wrote:
I'm hoping I can make it next year.
Just hop on your broom.
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FreshTopEnd wrote:
You don't think the Napa Valley and San Francisco bay area is a premier travel destination, especially in the fall, perhaps the best weather season for...
You don't think the Napa Valley and San Francisco bay area is a premier travel destination, especially in the fall, perhaps the best weather season for the area?


Sears is surrounded by wineries, terrific places to dine, one of the most photogenic cities in the world, a spectacular coastline, spectacular road rides available, all within a hour or so of the track. Almost zero chance of rain and almost guaranteed mid 70's to mid 80's temps.


There are a ton of reasons for someone coming from elsewhere in the world to pack a lot in the week.


There's my chamber of commerce pitch
Do I chime in with the number of anti-dirtbike, eco-nazi, global warming zealots, non-capitalist, alternative lifestyle, no-shower taking progressive liberals that live in the general area?

Nah, but I will agree that Sears Point would be a great place to hold the venue, with it's Nascar crowd capabilities and excellent natural terrain.
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FreshTopEnd 10/4/2009 2:59pm
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All the better reason to thrown down in the den of the beast!! Laughing
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`ol Ger 10/4/2009 3:02pm
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croom mx wrote:
Who's going to Colorado next year?
I've been thinking of going..
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joe101uk wrote:
Isn't it supposed to be hard getting your bike setup at that place ?
FreshTopEnd wrote:
It'll be interesting to see if the altitude is an issue for man or machine. It seems like fi and night races took care of some...
It'll be interesting to see if the altitude is an issue for man or machine. It seems like fi and night races took care of some or the issues when they first started running there. It should be a lot cooler for the MXdN than the summer national when they ran in the day.


I still think if they are bound to having the event at big motorsports facilities they should try to get to Sears Point/Infinion. Lots of elevation available there and it's in one of the world's premier travel destinations.
That place sucks!
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FreshTopEnd wrote:
You don't think the Napa Valley and San Francisco bay area is a premier travel destination, especially in the fall, perhaps the best weather season for...
You don't think the Napa Valley and San Francisco bay area is a premier travel destination, especially in the fall, perhaps the best weather season for the area?


Sears is surrounded by wineries, terrific places to dine, one of the most photogenic cities in the world, a spectacular coastline, spectacular road rides available, all within a hour or so of the track. Almost zero chance of rain and almost guaranteed mid 70's to mid 80's temps.


There are a ton of reasons for someone coming from elsewhere in the world to pack a lot in the week.


There's my chamber of commerce pitch
I agree with this pitch, 100%.
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FreshTopEnd 10/4/2009 3:26pm
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joe101uk wrote:
Isn't it supposed to be hard getting your bike setup at that place ?
FreshTopEnd wrote:
It'll be interesting to see if the altitude is an issue for man or machine. It seems like fi and night races took care of some...
It'll be interesting to see if the altitude is an issue for man or machine. It seems like fi and night races took care of some or the issues when they first started running there. It should be a lot cooler for the MXdN than the summer national when they ran in the day.


I still think if they are bound to having the event at big motorsports facilities they should try to get to Sears Point/Infinion. Lots of elevation available there and it's in one of the world's premier travel destinations.
Bauer wrote:
That place sucks!
That's not what Marty told you. Maybe you just weren't good enough to tackle it.

Hah.

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