Why don't they come up with a lightweight cardboard honeycombed tuff block? inside the box can have cambers if needed. Have Acerbis make a base to give it some weight & a top that when landed on will collapse the cardboard box & doesn't grab the bike or rider? Might cost a little more as some will get damaged, but better than a rider losing his season or career. Have the regular tuff blocks used in areas where landing on them isn't an issue.

Pretty sure two Tuff Blocks saved a season and possibly a career on Saturday night
You mean almost ended one. No tuff block, no crash.
He jumped off the track and would have crashed spectacularly either way. If he didn't land on the Tuff Block he likely would have endo'd straight onto the stadium floor, which is concrete
Yup. Without the tuf block he would just have jumped off the edge of the track. Still might have slid out on plywood or concrete but landing on the tuf block is what caused the cartwheeling bike and rag dolling rider.
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I like the idea of triangular style ones to avoid catching pegs etc. you could land on the side/edge and get away with it too. The square shape just brings riders to a halt so violently.
Front wheel would have landed off the side of the table, in the loose unconsolidated dirt, and back tire would have landed on top of the compacted table top. He had literally zero chance of riding that one out and it would have been very very ugly
How about we just keep the tuff blocks off step ons and backsides of the landings.
James Stewart's back has been saved by many tuff block. He's landed right on top of them so many times
Angel stadium does not have a concrete floor. But I agree with what you’re saying.
I agree, No way Tomac crashes if there is no tuff block. The tuff block sucked his front wheel in and he endoed.
C'mon Vitards, watch the video! Tomac can jump a triple taking off in a rut and landing in a rut but you guys think he couldn't land on the side of a table top and ride it out. You guys are crazy
Tuff Block lives matter....
...but seriously. This cardbox/empty box gets crushed....what are you gonna do....have spares all around the track to replace the crushed ones?
Why not. Each sponsored tuff block requires a certain amount to be displayed. If they sponsor 25 tuff blocks, give them 30. If you look there are many places they can be placed in a safe spot off the track. They don't have to be replaced while the race is in progress. replace them between races. I don't have all the answers, I just know something needs to be done.
A critical thinker you are. Might as well ditch helmets and boots too.
Hey Feld! WSX already tried it, nothing to see here, move along.
Yeah and absolutely garbage!
Blow on them and they are two lanes over.
They spent so much getting the elite riders of the sport to race their 3 race "world" series cardboard was all they could afford
Let’s go back to old school hay bales that explode when riders hit them
Because we can tell you don't understand how soft the current tuff blocks are and been saving riders that land on them. Look at the WSX homeless style tuff blocks. They are exactly like you want. They are a disaster and provide ZERO safety or padding on a fall.
Ask yourself this. In your living room, do a trust fall with only choosing a tuff block to cushion your fall. Which style would you choose? The current foam block? or Are you going to grab a cardboard box to land on?...... Yeah, that's what I thought.
Do you use a pillow when you sleep or a cereal box? I'm just curious...
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Just last weekend I listened to a podcast with a rider bitching about those cardboard boxes.
People like to bitch just because they like to bitch. Tuff Blocks aren't perfect, but they serve a purpose and as many negatives as you can assign to them you can give them that many positives. If you are lying unconscious on a hot track and the first person to you is a Dig Dug throwing a Tuff Block in front of you, are you going to be wishing it was a cardboard box?
Could you imagine the outrage when a cardboard block ends up in a rhythm their quading. That tuff block saved Eli Saturday
I didn't know these were tried at WSX event. Thanks for schooling me.
I've been on some track walks, but I admit I have not felt a tuff block. What can you compare them to?
Feld likely gets paid a pretty penny to have those logo's, I mean tuff blocks right where they are.
Good point on the Dig Dug throwing a Tuff Block in front of you. Hey doing you remember the podcast? I would like to listen to it.
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Good point. Eli hitting the tuff block caused the crash, but him landing on it could have help him not get injured.
This. Maybe not a complete triangle but a good "taper". Would not have made a difference with Tomac but having a good "taper" would prevent some "peg grabbing". Might have won James a title that year a tuff block grabbed him the night Ricky's shock blew out.
I'm sure a box could be designed to pad a fall better than the WSX boxes but some problems I foresee is that several will be destroyed every weekend and somebody has to but them together plus a rain/mudder would reek havoc on them. Although, you could print logos on the side and prevent the covers coming off into someone's wheel.
You might as well use Jetts donut boxes if you’re going to do that….packed with shock absorbing donuts instead of chambers. If you crash on one, the consolation is you get to eat the donuts.
Seems like no matter what you use, there will be pros and cons. If you're going to line the track with anything, it's going to move. I don't see how a cardboard box would be any more beneficial than a tough block in more scenarios than not.
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