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Edited Date/Time 3/10/2023 10:08am

 

Trump fined $1 million for bringing frivolous lawsuit:

"This case should never have been brought,” U.S. District Judge Donald M. Middlebrooks wrote in a 46-page ruling. “Its inadequacy as a legal claim was evident from the start. No reasonable lawyer would have filed it. Intended for a political purpose, none of the counts of the amended complaint stated a cognizable legal claim.”

“Mr. Trump is a prolific and sophisticated litigant who is repeatedly using the courts to seek revenge on political adversaries,” Judge Middlebrooks wrote. “He is the mastermind of strategic abuse of the judicial process, and he cannot be seen as a litigant blindly following the advice of a lawyer. He knew full well the impact of his actions.”

Judge Middlebrooks said Mr. Trump’s suit had been “brought in bad faith for an improper purpose” and had “needlessly harmed” the 31 individuals and organizations, including the Democratic National Committee, he had sued “in order to dishonestly advance a political narrative.” The judge added that Mr. Trump’s use of the courts had helped to undermine the public’s confidence in them.

“A continuing pattern of misuse of the courts by Mr. Trump and his lawyers undermines the rule of law, portrays judges as partisans and diverts resources from those who have suffered actual legal harm,” he wrote.

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Trumpjacket is back on his TDS rage again.

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And drops his other lawsuit against Leticia James before he got sanctioned for that one being frivolous too…

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1/20/2023 12:19pm
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Like him or not ,he kept that sea hag Clinton out of the white house and for that I thank him.

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Like him or not ,he kept that sea hag Clinton out of the white house and for that I thank him.

Lol...just a different devil.  No matter who gets in office...you are gonna eat shit.  Dog shit or cat shit...it's all shit.Silly

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plowboy wrote:
Lol...just a different devil.  No matter who gets in office...you are gonna eat shit.  Dog shit or cat shit...it's all shit.

Lol...just a different devil.  No matter who gets in office...you are gonna eat shit.  Dog shit or cat shit...it's all shit.Silly

Not even close.   Orange man is a text book rich-boy narcissist with a huge list of flaws.    But Hillary is fuckin' evil incarnate.  Seriously.   Shes the devil with a pants suit.

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Not even close.   Orange man is a text book rich-boy narcissist with a huge list of flaws.    But Hillary is fuckin' evil incarnate.  Seriously.   Shes...

Not even close.   Orange man is a text book rich-boy narcissist with a huge list of flaws.    But Hillary is fuckin' evil incarnate.  Seriously.   Shes the devil with a pants suit.

Pretty accurate description.  But I believe they both have damaged the country with their self serving bullshit.  If the poison kills you...does it matter what the ingredients?

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Like him or not ,he kept that sea hag Clinton out of the white house and for that I thank him.

On the other hand he couldn't keep Biden out of the white house.  Perhaps if he had lost to the sea hag instead we would've had 4 rough years but the Republican party would have been in much better shape in 2020 and beyond?  For that I don't thank him.

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GrapeApe wrote:
On the other hand he couldn't keep Biden out of the white house.  Perhaps if he had lost to the sea hag instead we would've had...

On the other hand he couldn't keep Biden out of the white house.  Perhaps if he had lost to the sea hag instead we would've had 4 rough years but the Republican party would have been in much better shape in 2020 and beyond?  For that I don't thank him.

This is exactly the problem.  Sides.  This country cannot exist with two polar opposite sides trying to destroy each other.

This country is made up of a cornucopia of humanity.  The constitution says that each and every one of us can have life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

It does not say that anyone's happiness is guaranteed or should come at the cost of someone else's pursuit.

We either compromise and continue to pursue or we cease to exist as a country.

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1/20/2023 4:34pm Edited Date/Time 1/20/2023 4:34pm
GrapeApe wrote:
On the other hand he couldn't keep Biden out of the white house.  Perhaps if he had lost to the sea hag instead we would've had...

On the other hand he couldn't keep Biden out of the white house.  Perhaps if he had lost to the sea hag instead we would've had 4 rough years but the Republican party would have been in much better shape in 2020 and beyond?  For that I don't thank him.

plowboy wrote:
This is exactly the problem.  Sides.  This country cannot exist with two polar opposite sides trying to destroy each other. This country is made up of...

This is exactly the problem.  Sides.  This country cannot exist with two polar opposite sides trying to destroy each other.

This country is made up of a cornucopia of humanity.  The constitution says that each and every one of us can have life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

It does not say that anyone's happiness is guaranteed or should come at the cost of someone else's pursuit.

We either compromise and continue to pursue or we cease to exist as a country.

I think our biggest problem is leadership, or lack thereof.  The brightest minds in our country are running businesses in the private sector, not running for public office.  The new breed of politician, on both sides, seem more interested in personal celebrity than the greater good.  The two party system can work, just not with the dim bulbs we are being asked to choose between.

 

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I think our biggest problem is leadership, or lack thereof.  The brightest minds in our country are running businesses in the private sector, not running for...

I think our biggest problem is leadership, or lack thereof.  The brightest minds in our country are running businesses in the private sector, not running for public office.  The new breed of politician, on both sides, seem more interested in personal celebrity than the greater good.  The two party system can work, just not with the dim bulbs we are being asked to choose between.

 

Agreed.

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1/20/2023 4:53pm Edited Date/Time 1/20/2023 4:58pm
GrapeApe wrote:
On the other hand he couldn't keep Biden out of the white house.  Perhaps if he had lost to the sea hag instead we would've had...

On the other hand he couldn't keep Biden out of the white house.  Perhaps if he had lost to the sea hag instead we would've had 4 rough years but the Republican party would have been in much better shape in 2020 and beyond?  For that I don't thank him.

plowboy wrote:
This is exactly the problem.  Sides.  This country cannot exist with two polar opposite sides trying to destroy each other. This country is made up of...

This is exactly the problem.  Sides.  This country cannot exist with two polar opposite sides trying to destroy each other.

This country is made up of a cornucopia of humanity.  The constitution says that each and every one of us can have life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

It does not say that anyone's happiness is guaranteed or should come at the cost of someone else's pursuit.

We either compromise and continue to pursue or we cease to exist as a country.

GrapeApe wrote:
I think our biggest problem is leadership, or lack thereof.  The brightest minds in our country are running businesses in the private sector, not running for...

I think our biggest problem is leadership, or lack thereof.  The brightest minds in our country are running businesses in the private sector, not running for public office.  The new breed of politician, on both sides, seem more interested in personal celebrity than the greater good.  The two party system can work, just not with the dim bulbs we are being asked to choose between.

 

A guy on another forum I frequent(Utah Jazz) wrote this:

 

"I think this is spot on. I have had some conversations with some republicans I know who are staunch Trump supporters about such things and they tend to view it as trivial as long as the elected leaders are championing the causes they find important, which among other things includes stuff like reigning in woke culture (first and foremost right now), as an extension limiting the "gay" influence, making sure they aren't paying more taxes - which are viewed as inherently evil for some reason, even while a few of my friends rely on public support, and it boils down to they have no clue where that support comes from (you know, from taxes) - and firming up the abortion bans to stop murdering babies. These things matter far more than a fully functioning government and taking care of people with lesser means, and providing equality for everyone. In most of their minds I would imagine the mantra of "everyone is created equal, but some are more equal than others" would ring true.

Again, I have said this before, but I think a lot of this is a symptom of rampant prosperity. There is really no existential threat any more. The cold war ended. We have largely resolved things like widespread hunger and access to basic utilities like electricity and water (let's not get into the "medical care should be a utility" debate right now), we all have fancy high-powered computers in our pockets and for the vast majority of Americans the biggest worry is if their sports team will perform like they want them to, and if they have at least as much, or preferably more, than the Jones'es. Humans are basic animals, and in the absence of an existential threat we elevate any slight to the status of an existential threat, because we can only be fulfilled if we are fighting for our lives. So attempts to promote any kind of equality, that can be perceived as diminishing someone else's power, influence, or simply status, is met with the same forceful response we used to reserve for legitimate threats, like lack of food and shelter, or imminent world-destroying war.

In fact, imho the increase in things like depression and anxiety among the population are partly from the isolation bred by the nature of the internet, as well as the lack of any real threats to focus our attention. Boredom is a killer, literally and figuratively. And we are becoming a population that is governed by our need to not be bored. This plays into the idle hands are the devil's workshop. That old trope is not too far from the truth.

And as a result we end up with leaders like we have in congress right now, people who have no idea how to govern, but they know what buttons to push to keep their base mad at the world, railing against their manufactured existential threats, and therefore they stay in power. No wonder Trump won't go away, he is the poster child for manufactured existential threats.

You really have to wonder how far we are from a Rome-esque collapse of the empire. Their fall came about at about a similar juncture, when their technology and prosperity were at all-time highs, some feel even better for their average citizens than we have it now. Are we facing a similar future, being doomed to repeat history?

Man I hate feeling this way, but I have been feeling a lot more fatalistic lately. Maybe it is my general nihilistic nature, but all the signs point to bad bad **** on the horizon."

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plowboy wrote:
Pretty accurate description.  But I believe they both have damaged the country with their self serving bullshit.  If the poison kills you...does it matter what the...

Pretty accurate description.  But I believe they both have damaged the country with their self serving bullshit.  If the poison kills you...does it matter what the ingredients?

You make a good point, sir.   Point taken.

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You make a good point, sir.   Point taken.

Wink

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Gee, str8- that dude you quoted has the same lack of understanding folks he disagrees with that you do.

Are you sure you didn't write that yourself?

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Like him or not ,he kept that sea hag Clinton out of the white house and for that I thank him.

She did beat him by 3 million votes though lol

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GrapeApe wrote:
On the other hand he couldn't keep Biden out of the white house.  Perhaps if he had lost to the sea hag instead we would've had...

On the other hand he couldn't keep Biden out of the white house.  Perhaps if he had lost to the sea hag instead we would've had 4 rough years but the Republican party would have been in much better shape in 2020 and beyond?  For that I don't thank him.

plowboy wrote:
This is exactly the problem.  Sides.  This country cannot exist with two polar opposite sides trying to destroy each other. This country is made up of...

This is exactly the problem.  Sides.  This country cannot exist with two polar opposite sides trying to destroy each other.

This country is made up of a cornucopia of humanity.  The constitution says that each and every one of us can have life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

It does not say that anyone's happiness is guaranteed or should come at the cost of someone else's pursuit.

We either compromise and continue to pursue or we cease to exist as a country.

Ranked choice voting would solve all of this (okay not ALL) and it’s so obvious that it’s the way to go asap for all elections. 

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Like him or not ,he kept that sea hag Clinton out of the white house and for that I thank him.

plowboy wrote:
Lol...just a different devil.  No matter who gets in office...you are gonna eat shit.  Dog shit or cat shit...it's all shit.

Lol...just a different devil.  No matter who gets in office...you are gonna eat shit.  Dog shit or cat shit...it's all shit.Silly

At the time people would ask me if I was glad that Trump won. My answer was and is, I'm not happy that Donald Trump is the president but I am really, really happy that Hillary is not.

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Gee, str8- that dude you quoted has the same lack of understanding folks he disagrees with that you do. Are you sure you didn't write that...

Gee, str8- that dude you quoted has the same lack of understanding folks he disagrees with that you do.

Are you sure you didn't write that yourself?

Well vet, please tell me what it is I don't understand about folks I disagree with, I'm really interested in what you think. Especially considering most of what I post here politically is basically news of the day. What have you gleaned from my posts, regarding my lack of understanding? And how well do you think you understand folks you disagree with?

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GrapeApe wrote:
On the other hand he couldn't keep Biden out of the white house.  Perhaps if he had lost to the sea hag instead we would've had...

On the other hand he couldn't keep Biden out of the white house.  Perhaps if he had lost to the sea hag instead we would've had 4 rough years but the Republican party would have been in much better shape in 2020 and beyond?  For that I don't thank him.

I think Obamas performance got Trump elected but I get your point.

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GrapeApe wrote:
On the other hand he couldn't keep Biden out of the white house.  Perhaps if he had lost to the sea hag instead we would've had...

On the other hand he couldn't keep Biden out of the white house.  Perhaps if he had lost to the sea hag instead we would've had 4 rough years but the Republican party would have been in much better shape in 2020 and beyond?  For that I don't thank him.

I think Obamas performance got Trump elected but I get your point.

C-SPAN does a Presidential ranking by over 140 historians whenever a Presidential transition takes place. They have done four so far. in 2000, 2009, 2017 and 2021. They rank every President based on public persuasion, crisis leadership, economic management, moral authority, international relations, administrative skills,  relations with Congress, vision/setting agenda, pursuit of equal justice for all, and performance within the context of the times. Some of the rankings have changed since 2000 but not by much. Top 5 are Abe, George, FDR, Teddy and Eisenhower. Obama is 10th. Trump 41st.

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GrapeApe wrote:
On the other hand he couldn't keep Biden out of the white house.  Perhaps if he had lost to the sea hag instead we would've had...

On the other hand he couldn't keep Biden out of the white house.  Perhaps if he had lost to the sea hag instead we would've had 4 rough years but the Republican party would have been in much better shape in 2020 and beyond?  For that I don't thank him.

I think Obamas performance got Trump elected but I get your point.

I think Obama was quite possibly the most eloquent president we've seen since JFK.

Nobody plans the route with the bus driver, they just tell him where to drive.

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I think Obama was quite possibly the most eloquent president we've seen since JFK. Nobody plans the route with the bus driver, they just tell him...

I think Obama was quite possibly the most eloquent president we've seen since JFK.

Nobody plans the route with the bus driver, they just tell him where to drive.

It's scary how many people were fooled by Obama just because he could speak well in public. 

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Its great to see people are happy we are back at war and have rampant inflation .

It must have been hard not having to deal with that for 4 years. 

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TDeath21 wrote:

Ranked choice voting would solve all of this (okay not ALL) and it’s so obvious that it’s the way to go asap for all elections. 

Do those of you down voting not like ranked choice voting? Genuinely curious. 

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