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We are headed to the Tampa RV Super show next week. This show should have just about every toy hauler trailer and motorhome with a garage there.
Do any of you have a specific model you would like me to get some info on and pictures of?
Sounds cool. I'd definitely like to see the most convenient ones for moto. With kids I found that a class A and trailer is the way to go just so they can be separated and everything fits in a 22ft enclosed. It was a nightmare of a drive with 3 kids next to each other in the back of a pickup towing a toy hauler.
Can you post if any new light toy hauler with a bathroom(including shower) show up? I really like the flyer explore but it has no shower. I want something easy to pull the bikes even when I’m not camping.
Agreed Bathrooms layouts are always an important thing in any RV.
Wednesday will be the 1st day of the show and we are moving over with the Newmar group on Tuesday
Interested in sub 26ft toy hauler with queen bed
The Shop
DeCal Works Huge Plastic Inventory of UFO and Polisport kits.
Luxon 4-Post Bar Mounts
$189.95 - $239.95
Check out the ATC lineup. All aluminum construction with no wood. This is the 2513 which has the front bedroom. It's supposed to be 25 feet but I think it's a little longer.

I have looked at these.
They are a nice setup but out of my price range being a struggling desert racer.
I'm interested in a small, 19'-20' toy hauler to pull behind my Extended length Transit for those longer race weekends when the setup in the Van might feel cramped, or I need to bring more than 2 bikes.
Hoping to find the following features. Dual Axle, HappiJac rear bed. toilet separate from the shower stall. 1 Slideout.
Little update:
We checked in and parked with the other 212 Newmar owners on Tuesday. Yesterday We walked through the various Vendor buildings yesterday and scored some new folding chairs and a seat / foot stool for our couch that collapses flat.
The dog is loving life!!!! Awesome!!!!!!
Found my wife a new yellow bag yesterday. 😆
I saw this ingenious product on youtube a year or 2 ago and it had won the best new product at this show.
If you have an RV you know just how “challenging” a RV dump hose can be.
Guys I WAY overdid it walking around here today but here are some of the toy haulers.
Thor 29J class B other than the V10 being replaced with a V8 they look to be about the same as past years.
Thor class A 38MB gas toy hauler. Gas Ford V8 Sorry could not get an angle to get a pic of it.
We purchased our 2022 Newmar 3927 front engine diesel a little over a year ago and of course for 2023 they made several changes and one was making the driver side slide out into a full length slide out including the bedroom and not the garage. I didn't think it would make that much of a difference but now that I have seen it WOW was I wrong! Sorry about the mess in ours but you can see the difference.
On to some trailers. Heartland Torque T256 30 foot toy hauler with a 16 foot 7 inch garage.
Heartland Torque T 285 36 foot toy hauler with 16 foot garage.
Highland Torque T322 37’ 9” toy hauler with a 12’ 6” garage. The kitchen in this one is really nice!
Flagstaff E-Pro E19FBTH
Pit Row
Did any of the dealer express sentiment on the current economic tornado? It would be interesting to hear what these RV dealers are thinking coming off record years right into a steep economic decline.
It's going to be bad for sure unless we see a magical turnaround.
We have another group to look at today and maybe they have the smaller ones.
I listened to one salesman tell a customer here that there is no negotiations on show prices so they must not be too worried about it. I have heard that rumor for many years and it has never materialized.
We were going to get a magna shade for our class A if they had a show price but they were full price and only offered free shipping. Even installation is $250
That amazes me. These things are overpriced at a retail level to begin with. It is also no secret new and used auto markets are crashing. RV's I would suspect are next. The used values of these things are getting cheaper by the hour.
I love going to these shows you can tell how badly these companies are overpricing there units when they are dropping $30,000+ off the sticker price for a show.
Gives you a great chance to negotiate after the show on similar units.
Sadly I couldn’t find a single shorter 18-22 foot Toyhauler anywhere. Tons of vans that were really nice.
Think I found MCGrath 😆
Check out the Ibex trailers if they’re around. Been loving ours.
https://forestriverinc.com/rvs/travel-trailers/ibex/19QTH/5411
I have looked at these in person but hate how the kitchen is next to the bed.
I have looked at the gray wolf and micro boost before as well.
I was thinking the same thing.
Going to be a lot more price cutting as folks start to tighten their belts.
I bought the 2021 Outlaw 29j. The V8 is awesome! I use my outlaw like it's a sprinter. I use it for all of our riding, even close to home. I like having everything I need loaded and ready to go all the time. I wonder of they'll really get $130k+? I paid $96k OTD brand new in Feb of '21.
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