New 2023 YZ450F

1/12/2023 3:42am

Ours came in yesterday!  Can't wait to pick it up!

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sgrimmxdad wrote:
Ours came in yesterday!  Can't wait to pick it up!  

Ours came in yesterday!  Can't wait to pick it up!

received 1210512589548186

 

Awesome! Congrats. Can’t wait to hear how you like it. 

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1/12/2023 4:34am Edited Date/Time 1/12/2023 4:37am
GPrider wrote:
Talked to my dealer today in El Cajon, they are marking up 3K over msrp, then tax and license. I said no thanks. They have one...

Talked to my dealer today in El Cajon, they are marking up 3K over msrp, then tax and license. I said no thanks. They have one on the floor.

crmx105 wrote:

Crooks!!!!!!

This does not make them crooks.  They are not stealing from anyone.  Customers can choose whether to support this shop or not.  If customers are willing...

This does not make them crooks.  They are not stealing from anyone.  Customers can choose whether to support this shop or not.  If customers are willing to pay the markup due to demand, then more power to them.  If you aren't, that's ok too.

Fuck them.

 

After my experience of buying a new bike last year. My next bike will be bought over the phone by the dealer with the best price down to the penny's and shipped to me.

Fuck playing games.

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1/12/2023 5:28am

Anyone know when Twin Air or somebody will be releasing an airbox cover?  I managed to find a couple of Twin Air Pre Oiled filters but everything else is out of stock...

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1/12/2023 5:37am
sgrimmxdad wrote:
Anyone know when Twin Air or somebody will be releasing an airbox cover?  I managed to find a couple of Twin Air Pre Oiled filters but...

Anyone know when Twin Air or somebody will be releasing an airbox cover?  I managed to find a couple of Twin Air Pre Oiled filters but everything else is out of stock...

I was told February, they called me after I ordered and said they had the pre oiled filters but the covers will be shipping in February 

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It’s all good. You’re certainly free to form your own opinions about what bikes work best for you and no two riders will ever be the...

It’s all good. You’re certainly free to form your own opinions about what bikes work best for you and no two riders will ever be the same. 

That said, if you believe the ‘18 was the worst bike you’ve ever rode, but you love your ‘23, that tells me that I can’t take anything you say about the bike all that seriously as our preferences differ too much. Either that or I should go grab my deposit back from the shop and just go get a ‘22 lol. I’m not looking for something that is the polar opposite to what my ‘21 is.

Maybe he just hasn’t ridden a ton of other bikes, did you possibly consider that scenario?  

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1/12/2023 6:08am Edited Date/Time 1/12/2023 6:09am
swaldrop wrote:
Thank you for the info 🙏 The fact that you let us know early that you believe the ‘18 YZ450 to be the worst bike ever...

Thank you for the info 🙏 The fact that you let us know early that you believe the ‘18 YZ450 to be the worst bike ever saved me from reading it 👍

wm741 wrote:
It was one of the worst bikes I’ve owned, don’t know what else to say. Sorry you don’t agree. Struggled w suspension and handling and the...

It was one of the worst bikes I’ve owned, don’t know what else to say. Sorry you don’t agree. Struggled w suspension and handling and the transmission took a shit. 🤷🏻‍♂️

PRY wrote:
I agree. The 18 and 19 models were duds. I just could not get them to handle the way I wanted. The previous generation was better...

I agree. The 18 and 19 models were duds. I just could not get them to handle the way I wanted. The previous generation was better on every front. For that matter, although the 20 to 22 are an improvent, I don't think they are better than the 23 for the tight tracks we have in the UK.

If you can't get a 19 to turn, it's not the bikes fault...

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1/12/2023 6:10am
Timo wrote:

If you can't get a 19 to turn, it's not the bikes fault...

These guys should ride a 06 YZ450.

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Jrey2 wrote:

Give us your full thoughts 

mxb2 wrote:
Bikes badazz, let guys do what they want , Their $. Their choices.
Jrey2 wrote:

Didn’t try to prevent him from doing anything. Loosen your grip on his balls. Oh, and please forgive me for being so broke😂😂

Why are you even on this forum still?

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1/12/2023 6:33am
swaldrop wrote:
Thank you for the info 🙏 The fact that you let us know early that you believe the ‘18 YZ450 to be the worst bike ever...

Thank you for the info 🙏 The fact that you let us know early that you believe the ‘18 YZ450 to be the worst bike ever saved me from reading it 👍

wm741 wrote:
It was one of the worst bikes I’ve owned, don’t know what else to say. Sorry you don’t agree. Struggled w suspension and handling and the...

It was one of the worst bikes I’ve owned, don’t know what else to say. Sorry you don’t agree. Struggled w suspension and handling and the transmission took a shit. 🤷🏻‍♂️

swaldrop wrote:
It’s all good. You’re certainly free to form your own opinions about what bikes work best for you and no two riders will ever be the...

It’s all good. You’re certainly free to form your own opinions about what bikes work best for you and no two riders will ever be the same. 

That said, if you believe the ‘18 was the worst bike you’ve ever rode, but you love your ‘23, that tells me that I can’t take anything you say about the bike all that seriously as our preferences differ too much. Either that or I should go grab my deposit back from the shop and just go get a ‘22 lol. I’m not looking for something that is the polar opposite to what my ‘21 is.

Keefer and a few other testers have stated the 23 is a pretty big change for Yamaha and is a different bike from past years. I personally did not like how cramped the cockpit is and the last generating deff took a bit for effort to turn compared to its competition. The new bike has seemed to fix that from what testers have said. 

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1/12/2023 6:52am
Timo wrote:

If you can't get a 19 to turn, it's not the bikes fault...

Sandusky26 wrote:

These guys should ride a 06 YZ450.

That is funny and very true!!!!! LOL

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1/12/2023 6:58am
Timo wrote:

If you can't get a 19 to turn, it's not the bikes fault...

I would be doing drag racing if I could not get it to turn, the point I am making is 23 definitely turns easier.

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1/12/2023 7:07am
swaldrop wrote:
It’s all good. You’re certainly free to form your own opinions about what bikes work best for you and no two riders will ever be the...

It’s all good. You’re certainly free to form your own opinions about what bikes work best for you and no two riders will ever be the same. 

That said, if you believe the ‘18 was the worst bike you’ve ever rode, but you love your ‘23, that tells me that I can’t take anything you say about the bike all that seriously as our preferences differ too much. Either that or I should go grab my deposit back from the shop and just go get a ‘22 lol. I’m not looking for something that is the polar opposite to what my ‘21 is.

soggy wrote:

Maybe he just hasn’t ridden a ton of other bikes, did you possibly consider that scenario?  

Good point. Let’s review our options…

1) he has ridden lots of bikes and feels this way about the current platform: We demand different characteristics out of a bike and I may not be able to use much of what he says to make a decision.

2) he hasn’t ridden many bikes: Maybe he doesn’t have the experience to determine what is or isn’t working with a bike and I may not be able to use much of what he says to make a decision. 

My initial comment was really just giving dude a hard time. He’s probably spot on regardless of what I think. Maybe I’m just jealous that he got his bike and I don’t have mine yet lol. Either way, the more info we get about these bikes the better. No feelings were hurt intentionally Smile

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1/12/2023 7:11am
Keefer and a few other testers have stated the 23 is a pretty big change for Yamaha and is a different bike from past years. I...

Keefer and a few other testers have stated the 23 is a pretty big change for Yamaha and is a different bike from past years. I personally did not like how cramped the cockpit is and the last generating deff took a bit for effort to turn compared to its competition. The new bike has seemed to fix that from what testers have said. 

I believe that the bike has made some changes. I just can’t really wrap my head around the idea that it could go from one extreme to another. Maybe I’ll hate the new bike 🤷‍♂️

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1/12/2023 7:14am
mxb2 wrote:
Bikes badazz, let guys do what they want , Their $. Their choices.
Jrey2 wrote:

Didn’t try to prevent him from doing anything. Loosen your grip on his balls. Oh, and please forgive me for being so broke😂😂

Why are you even on this forum still?

So many of your posts are you replying to me when I was never talking to you. Why is that?

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1/12/2023 7:18am Edited Date/Time 1/12/2023 7:21am
Keefer and a few other testers have stated the 23 is a pretty big change for Yamaha and is a different bike from past years. I...

Keefer and a few other testers have stated the 23 is a pretty big change for Yamaha and is a different bike from past years. I personally did not like how cramped the cockpit is and the last generating deff took a bit for effort to turn compared to its competition. The new bike has seemed to fix that from what testers have said. 

swaldrop wrote:
I believe that the bike has made some changes. I just can’t really wrap my head around the idea that it could go from one extreme...

I believe that the bike has made some changes. I just can’t really wrap my head around the idea that it could go from one extreme to another. Maybe I’ll hate the new bike 🤷‍♂️

Keefer said the bike lost some straight-line stability but gained better handling and easier turn in. 

I've always found the YZ 4 strokes to take a bit more effort to initiate a turn compared to other brands. Straight line stability has always been excellent though. 

To me this new bike will be homerun if they found a good middle point between stability and handling. Plus, they finally slimmed it down and open up the cockpit. Even at 5'10" I find that last gen YZ to be cramped. 

I love my new Honda but excited to ride the new yz250f when it comes out. 

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1/12/2023 7:20am
Jrey2 wrote:

Didn’t try to prevent him from doing anything. Loosen your grip on his balls. Oh, and please forgive me for being so broke😂😂

Why are you even on this forum still?

Jrey2 wrote:

So many of your posts are you replying to me when I was never talking to you. Why is that?

Trying to help you stop embarrassing yourself on this forum. 

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Why are you even on this forum still?

Jrey2 wrote:

So many of your posts are you replying to me when I was never talking to you. Why is that?

Trying to help you stop embarrassing yourself on this forum. 

Thanks, send me a text or something we can keep working together. This seems promising. 

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1/12/2023 8:07am

Can anyone comment how the ergos are compared to a KTM? I switched from YZs to a 350, the KTM definitely needed a few things to fit me better at 6'4" (no bike is gonna fit well stock) 

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Chippy wrote:
Can anyone comment how the ergos are compared to a KTM? I switched from YZs to a 350, the KTM definitely needed a few things to...

Can anyone comment how the ergos are compared to a KTM? I switched from YZs to a 350, the KTM definitely needed a few things to fit me better at 6'4" (no bike is gonna fit well stock) 

Me too (to all of it) and we're the same height. Mind telling me how you've gotten more comfortable? So far I've got a wing seat and just ordered some fastways from a user on here but that's about it. I feel like I'm standing right in front of the handlebars no matter what.

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1/12/2023 8:20am

4B14C9BA-C80D-4299-8311-DEA99A25266E.jpeg?VersionId=5  qzUwlmYF1tVFN17WSI got mine home finally. Going to get it together for Saturday.

 

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I think the only group of people that may not be totally sure on this new platform are some long-time Yam guys. A lot of people like the stability and the "set it and forget it" way of life that The YZfs have been known for recently. To me, the 20-22 450 and 21-23 250F finally got the cornering balance that I liked. Corners very well but really no downsides in other areas. The new platform seems like it trades off a bit of stability and consistency in a setting, for a sharper corning machine. Most people will probably be happy with the change. I'm sort of on the fence, just on that aspect. Everything else (lower weight, thinner etc) is awesome. I've always shied away from Hondas because I wasn't sure their handling character fit my style and I didn't want to chase a comfortable setting. So it will be interesting to hear what everyone has to say, once they have had the new YZF for a while and raced at different tracks and conditions. 

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1/12/2023 8:55am

the slight nervous you feel could also be that you added a 50 tooth rear sprocket. This would put your rear axle more forward than stock. Keep in mind Tomac runs his axle all the way back for stability. 

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Chippy wrote:
Can anyone comment how the ergos are compared to a KTM? I switched from YZs to a 350, the KTM definitely needed a few things to...

Can anyone comment how the ergos are compared to a KTM? I switched from YZs to a 350, the KTM definitely needed a few things to fit me better at 6'4" (no bike is gonna fit well stock) 

Jrey2 wrote:
Me too (to all of it) and we're the same height. Mind telling me how you've gotten more comfortable? So far I've got a wing seat...

Me too (to all of it) and we're the same height. Mind telling me how you've gotten more comfortable? So far I've got a wing seat and just ordered some fastways from a user on here but that's about it. I feel like I'm standing right in front of the handlebars no matter what.

Move your handlebar mounts to the front holes. 

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1/12/2023 9:40am
Chippy wrote:
Can anyone comment how the ergos are compared to a KTM? I switched from YZs to a 350, the KTM definitely needed a few things to...

Can anyone comment how the ergos are compared to a KTM? I switched from YZs to a 350, the KTM definitely needed a few things to fit me better at 6'4" (no bike is gonna fit well stock) 

Jrey2 wrote:
Me too (to all of it) and we're the same height. Mind telling me how you've gotten more comfortable? So far I've got a wing seat...

Me too (to all of it) and we're the same height. Mind telling me how you've gotten more comfortable? So far I've got a wing seat and just ordered some fastways from a user on here but that's about it. I feel like I'm standing right in front of the handlebars no matter what.

soggy wrote:

Move your handlebar mounts to the front holes. 

Don't do it.

Figure out how to ride small and drop your heals as much as possible.

FFS unlock your hips.

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1/12/2023 9:44am

Clearly this bike is a good one.... I am intrigued to see what Yamaha does with the 250f.... Each guy that gets on the Star bike(obviously not the same but based off of platform) says the engine is better than they could have imagined.  I want to see what Yamaha has up their sleeve for the 250f engine

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JJO741 wrote:

I still can’t find one in Vegas. This is the first 450 I genuinely want to buy. 

Start calling every Yamaha shop that's within a distance you would be willing to drive and I bet you find one. a buddy put down a deposit and was 2nd in line to get his and then the dealer  sold it out from under him because when it came in they then said he was 3rd on the list (so another month wait) so he called around and found one on the floor and even closer to his house so he went a picked it up the same day. Great looking bike and hopefully he will get to break it in this weekend. 

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Sandusky26 wrote:

Don't do it.

Figure out how to ride small and drop your heals as much as possible.

FFS unlock your hips.

Haha. If you’ve got a long torso and shorter legs it can definitely help

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Rode mine last weekend, little background on me. Been on Kawasaki for the past 8 years. Decided to try blue with no change to the 23 kx. Pro rider 34. First impressions of the Yamaha have been positive. The first corner I took I was like holy shit, this thing can turn. You really sit on top of this bike. And it’s extremely easy and effortless to turn. The transition from sitting to standing is is easy. I found myself standing more in turns than I can remember. The stock suspension is decent surprisingly. Decent hold up but you blow through the mid-stroke on bigger hits. As stated above this thing is fun to throw around in the air. Feels like a 250f. As for the motor. Very strong. I will admit I do like the bottom end ground from the kx. This bike is mellow off the bottom. Mid to top rips. Very controlled and puts the power to the ground. 2nd gear is really long and I’m still playing around with when to shift or not. For me 3 gears in corners doesn’t pull hard enough and the bike bogs. But a quick clutch hand can help bring it alive. But with second gear being so long it’s been plenty. Might have to try a 50 on the rear. I messed around with the maps and the keefer connect map is money. I’ve been using that for map 1 and a the hard hitting for map 2 with traction control on low. I will say the seat sucks, it’s skinny and hard. Expect to have some monkey butt. Excited to ride this Saturday. Cheers! 

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1/12/2023 10:49am
Chippy wrote:
Can anyone comment how the ergos are compared to a KTM? I switched from YZs to a 350, the KTM definitely needed a few things to...

Can anyone comment how the ergos are compared to a KTM? I switched from YZs to a 350, the KTM definitely needed a few things to fit me better at 6'4" (no bike is gonna fit well stock) 

Jrey2 wrote:
Me too (to all of it) and we're the same height. Mind telling me how you've gotten more comfortable? So far I've got a wing seat...

Me too (to all of it) and we're the same height. Mind telling me how you've gotten more comfortable? So far I've got a wing seat and just ordered some fastways from a user on here but that's about it. I feel like I'm standing right in front of the handlebars no matter what.

soggy wrote:

Move your handlebar mounts to the front holes. 

I'm at 2 or 3 out of 4, position 4 being all the way up. I've been meaning to try this out. I'm planning on it in a few days when I do some bike work actually. I had my bars rolled forwards a little as well which makes room but makes the hand positioning very unnatural and is a net negative.

 

@Sandusky26 If I unlock anymore i'm going to be two pieces. My issue is that I either am wayyyy over the front of the bike with the bars under me, too erect in my positioning, or my weight is too far back to use my legs and it's just "hanging on". Hope that makes sense..

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