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needforspeed78 11/17/2022 12:21am
11/17/2022 12:21am
Lost missiles are nothing new, here is the picture from Finland, December 1984 at lake Inari in northern Lapland


Even santa himself has come to check this Soviet missile out.
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swordfish 11/17/2022 2:34am
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needforspeed78 wrote:
Lost missiles are nothing new, here is the picture from Finland, December 1984 at lake Inari in northern Lapland [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/17/577082/s1200_inari.jpg[/img] Even santa himself has come to...
Lost missiles are nothing new, here is the picture from Finland, December 1984 at lake Inari in northern Lapland


Even santa himself has come to check this Soviet missile out.
And here come the down votes in 3…2…1…
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/netherlands-mh17-trial-1.6654577


“ A Dutch court said on Thursday that Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 was shot down in 2014 by a Russian-made missile fired from a field in eastern Ukraine, and convicted three suspects of murder for their role in the deadly incident.”
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M1000 11/17/2022 9:01am
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Something more to Chomp on…. This war is about to get very nasty. Why? Ask your government to pay back the debt…. Nope…. https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/un-icc-now-guarantee-…
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That’s gonna get you some downvotes for sure.
I agree. Zelensky is a fraud. Zelensky puts $$$$ before the people. Zelensky failed to honour the Minsk agreement. Henry Kissinger (yes he still alive), told NATO members to stand down. Only to fall on deaf ears. Zelensky will lead Ukraine into ww3. Millions of Ukrainians will be killed, bloodshed will run rampant. All the while Zelensky will be flown out of the Ukraine in a jet with millions of $$$. All this hatred, anger worldwide over a small region that speaks 80% Russian. Kissinger stated this is crazy, leaders need to step back and look at the big picture (none are listening). There are too sides on a coin. This is the other side. 🥃🥃🥃. Yes I expect down votes, as mentioned. ✌️✌️✌️
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/ukraine/the-west-…
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Russia marched on Kiev and failed. This isn't about a small region that speaks 80% Russian.
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kongols 11/17/2022 10:06am
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Do not be surprized if Wagner boss Prigozin takes power in his hands in Russia.
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swordfish 11/17/2022 11:21am
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Do not be surprized if Wagner boss Prigozin takes power in his hands in Russia.
What makes you think that? Is there indications it’s moving that way? Genuinely curious.
I know he has been reported to be stirring the pot and very critical lately as well as making some power moves.
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plowboy 11/17/2022 1:17pm
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M1000 wrote:
I agree. Zelensky is a fraud. Zelensky puts $$$$ before the people. Zelensky failed to honour the Minsk agreement. Henry Kissinger (yes he still alive), told...
I agree. Zelensky is a fraud. Zelensky puts $$$$ before the people. Zelensky failed to honour the Minsk agreement. Henry Kissinger (yes he still alive), told NATO members to stand down. Only to fall on deaf ears. Zelensky will lead Ukraine into ww3. Millions of Ukrainians will be killed, bloodshed will run rampant. All the while Zelensky will be flown out of the Ukraine in a jet with millions of $$$. All this hatred, anger worldwide over a small region that speaks 80% Russian. Kissinger stated this is crazy, leaders need to step back and look at the big picture (none are listening). There are too sides on a coin. This is the other side. 🥃🥃🥃. Yes I expect down votes, as mentioned. ✌️✌️✌️
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/ukraine/the-west-…
You mention Kissinger and while there's no denying he's a brainy sumbitch...I wouldn't put much faith in getting a non biased statement from him. He's always been the guy that can manipulate the situation into a desired result...he never seemed to care about ethics or decency. He's a fixer for hire.
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plowboy 11/17/2022 1:32pm
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early wrote:
Russia marched on Kiev and failed. This isn't about a small region that speaks 80% Russian.
The disgusting truth is that 1000's of absolutely innocent Ukrainian AND Russian folks are being destroyed by this ignorance. Putin's corrupt...Zelenski's corrupt...hell, name a politician that ain't?

It's all just insanity.

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IanMac138 11/17/2022 1:49pm
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Kissinger, the guy who hid the carpet bombing of Laos and Cambodia from Congress during the Vietnam war? Cool.
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plowboy 11/17/2022 1:52pm
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Kissinger, the guy who hid the carpet bombing of Laos and Cambodia from Congress during the Vietnam war? Cool.
Shhhhh
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TheGetFresh 11/17/2022 5:13pm
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early wrote:
Russia marched on Kiev and failed. This isn't about a small region that speaks 80% Russian.
plowboy wrote:
The disgusting truth is that 1000's of absolutely innocent Ukrainian AND Russian folks are being destroyed by this ignorance. Putin's corrupt...Zelenski's corrupt...hell, name a politician that...
The disgusting truth is that 1000's of absolutely innocent Ukrainian AND Russian folks are being destroyed by this ignorance. Putin's corrupt...Zelenski's corrupt...hell, name a politician that ain't?

It's all just insanity.

Shit, guys, this war ain’t going the way we want. Better pull out the platitudes.

The war hasn’t gone the way the Ukrainians wanted since Russia set foot within their border. Now, the false stories about Russia’s incompetence and failure are more and more shaky. It’s becoming clear to you that Ukraine is proper fucked. To others it’s been clear since day one.

Perhaps you should start preparing yourself for what Europe will look like post Russia success rather than hold out hope for your plucky underdog pals. Russia wins this war. It was clear when they staged at the border that they would win. Telling yourself Ukraine has a chance is delusional. Get off Twitter.
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Chris99Flannery 11/17/2022 7:19pm
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early wrote:
Russia marched on Kiev and failed. This isn't about a small region that speaks 80% Russian.
plowboy wrote:
The disgusting truth is that 1000's of absolutely innocent Ukrainian AND Russian folks are being destroyed by this ignorance. Putin's corrupt...Zelenski's corrupt...hell, name a politician that...
The disgusting truth is that 1000's of absolutely innocent Ukrainian AND Russian folks are being destroyed by this ignorance. Putin's corrupt...Zelenski's corrupt...hell, name a politician that ain't?

It's all just insanity.

TheGetFresh wrote:
Shit, guys, this war ain’t going the way we want. Better pull out the platitudes. The war hasn’t gone the way the Ukrainians wanted since Russia...
Shit, guys, this war ain’t going the way we want. Better pull out the platitudes.

The war hasn’t gone the way the Ukrainians wanted since Russia set foot within their border. Now, the false stories about Russia’s incompetence and failure are more and more shaky. It’s becoming clear to you that Ukraine is proper fucked. To others it’s been clear since day one.

Perhaps you should start preparing yourself for what Europe will look like post Russia success rather than hold out hope for your plucky underdog pals. Russia wins this war. It was clear when they staged at the border that they would win. Telling yourself Ukraine has a chance is delusional. Get off Twitter.
No one’s winning this thing. The outcome either way isn’t going to be acceptable.
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colintrax 11/17/2022 8:11pm
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TheGetFresh wrote:
Shit, guys, this war ain’t going the way we want. Better pull out the platitudes. The war hasn’t gone the way the Ukrainians wanted since Russia...
Shit, guys, this war ain’t going the way we want. Better pull out the platitudes.

The war hasn’t gone the way the Ukrainians wanted since Russia set foot within their border. Now, the false stories about Russia’s incompetence and failure are more and more shaky. It’s becoming clear to you that Ukraine is proper fucked. To others it’s been clear since day one.

Perhaps you should start preparing yourself for what Europe will look like post Russia success rather than hold out hope for your plucky underdog pals. Russia wins this war. It was clear when they staged at the border that they would win. Telling yourself Ukraine has a chance is delusional. Get off Twitter.
Did you ride this week cause you must've hit your head HARD
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TheGetFresh 11/17/2022 8:16pm
11/17/2022 8:16pm
TheGetFresh wrote:
Shit, guys, this war ain’t going the way we want. Better pull out the platitudes. The war hasn’t gone the way the Ukrainians wanted since Russia...
Shit, guys, this war ain’t going the way we want. Better pull out the platitudes.

The war hasn’t gone the way the Ukrainians wanted since Russia set foot within their border. Now, the false stories about Russia’s incompetence and failure are more and more shaky. It’s becoming clear to you that Ukraine is proper fucked. To others it’s been clear since day one.

Perhaps you should start preparing yourself for what Europe will look like post Russia success rather than hold out hope for your plucky underdog pals. Russia wins this war. It was clear when they staged at the border that they would win. Telling yourself Ukraine has a chance is delusional. Get off Twitter.
colintrax wrote:
Did you ride this week cause you must've hit your head HARD
Dirt bike jokes. Nice.

Let’s reconvene in the spring.
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TheGetFresh 11/17/2022 8:21pm
11/17/2022 8:21pm
plowboy wrote:
The disgusting truth is that 1000's of absolutely innocent Ukrainian AND Russian folks are being destroyed by this ignorance. Putin's corrupt...Zelenski's corrupt...hell, name a politician that...
The disgusting truth is that 1000's of absolutely innocent Ukrainian AND Russian folks are being destroyed by this ignorance. Putin's corrupt...Zelenski's corrupt...hell, name a politician that ain't?

It's all just insanity.

TheGetFresh wrote:
Shit, guys, this war ain’t going the way we want. Better pull out the platitudes. The war hasn’t gone the way the Ukrainians wanted since Russia...
Shit, guys, this war ain’t going the way we want. Better pull out the platitudes.

The war hasn’t gone the way the Ukrainians wanted since Russia set foot within their border. Now, the false stories about Russia’s incompetence and failure are more and more shaky. It’s becoming clear to you that Ukraine is proper fucked. To others it’s been clear since day one.

Perhaps you should start preparing yourself for what Europe will look like post Russia success rather than hold out hope for your plucky underdog pals. Russia wins this war. It was clear when they staged at the border that they would win. Telling yourself Ukraine has a chance is delusional. Get off Twitter.
Chris99Flannery wrote:
No one’s winning this thing. The outcome either way isn’t going to be acceptable.
I don’t think I said anything about an acceptable outcome. If you find something to that effect, please point it out.

I said that Ukraine having any success in this war has largely been a lie. You’re better off facing reality than sitting around on a dirt bike forum pretending like they’ve done anything successful. Plan for what’s next, not for what you hope happened today.
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Chance1216 11/17/2022 9:51pm
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TheGetFresh wrote:
Shit, guys, this war ain’t going the way we want. Better pull out the platitudes. The war hasn’t gone the way the Ukrainians wanted since Russia...
Shit, guys, this war ain’t going the way we want. Better pull out the platitudes.

The war hasn’t gone the way the Ukrainians wanted since Russia set foot within their border. Now, the false stories about Russia’s incompetence and failure are more and more shaky. It’s becoming clear to you that Ukraine is proper fucked. To others it’s been clear since day one.

Perhaps you should start preparing yourself for what Europe will look like post Russia success rather than hold out hope for your plucky underdog pals. Russia wins this war. It was clear when they staged at the border that they would win. Telling yourself Ukraine has a chance is delusional. Get off Twitter.
Chris99Flannery wrote:
No one’s winning this thing. The outcome either way isn’t going to be acceptable.
TheGetFresh wrote:
I don’t think I said anything about an acceptable outcome. If you find something to that effect, please point it out. I said that Ukraine having...
I don’t think I said anything about an acceptable outcome. If you find something to that effect, please point it out.

I said that Ukraine having any success in this war has largely been a lie. You’re better off facing reality than sitting around on a dirt bike forum pretending like they’ve done anything successful. Plan for what’s next, not for what you hope happened today.
Would you care to share your sources that have helped you come to these conclusions?
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MotoTribology 11/17/2022 10:06pm
11/17/2022 10:06pm Edited Date/Time 11/18/2022 5:25am
Chris99Flannery wrote:
No one’s winning this thing. The outcome either way isn’t going to be acceptable.
TheGetFresh wrote:
I don’t think I said anything about an acceptable outcome. If you find something to that effect, please point it out. I said that Ukraine having...
I don’t think I said anything about an acceptable outcome. If you find something to that effect, please point it out.

I said that Ukraine having any success in this war has largely been a lie. You’re better off facing reality than sitting around on a dirt bike forum pretending like they’ve done anything successful. Plan for what’s next, not for what you hope happened today.
Chance1216 wrote:
Would you care to share your sources that have helped you come to these conclusions?
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Russia is begging for negotiations. Latest what I heard is they are ready to go back to what was 23rd of February and they want Ukraine to recognize Crimea as part of Russia. Not gonna happen, war goes on. Ukraine wants borders back to year 1991. If any calculations are correct, Russia is close to out of high precision rockets.
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King_George_III 11/18/2022 2:52am
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TheGetFresh wrote:
I don’t think I said anything about an acceptable outcome. If you find something to that effect, please point it out. I said that Ukraine having...
I don’t think I said anything about an acceptable outcome. If you find something to that effect, please point it out.

I said that Ukraine having any success in this war has largely been a lie. You’re better off facing reality than sitting around on a dirt bike forum pretending like they’ve done anything successful. Plan for what’s next, not for what you hope happened today.
If we take Clausewitz' definition of war, then Russia has had no success either.
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TheGetFresh wrote:
Shit, guys, this war ain’t going the way we want. Better pull out the platitudes. The war hasn’t gone the way the Ukrainians wanted since Russia...
Shit, guys, this war ain’t going the way we want. Better pull out the platitudes.

The war hasn’t gone the way the Ukrainians wanted since Russia set foot within their border. Now, the false stories about Russia’s incompetence and failure are more and more shaky. It’s becoming clear to you that Ukraine is proper fucked. To others it’s been clear since day one.

Perhaps you should start preparing yourself for what Europe will look like post Russia success rather than hold out hope for your plucky underdog pals. Russia wins this war. It was clear when they staged at the border that they would win. Telling yourself Ukraine has a chance is delusional. Get off Twitter.
Chris99Flannery wrote:
No one’s winning this thing. The outcome either way isn’t going to be acceptable.
TheGetFresh wrote:
I don’t think I said anything about an acceptable outcome. If you find something to that effect, please point it out. I said that Ukraine having...
I don’t think I said anything about an acceptable outcome. If you find something to that effect, please point it out.

I said that Ukraine having any success in this war has largely been a lie. You’re better off facing reality than sitting around on a dirt bike forum pretending like they’ve done anything successful. Plan for what’s next, not for what you hope happened today.
What successes has Russia had?
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swordfish 11/18/2022 4:17am
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Chris99Flannery wrote:
No one’s winning this thing. The outcome either way isn’t going to be acceptable.
TheGetFresh wrote:
I don’t think I said anything about an acceptable outcome. If you find something to that effect, please point it out. I said that Ukraine having...
I don’t think I said anything about an acceptable outcome. If you find something to that effect, please point it out.

I said that Ukraine having any success in this war has largely been a lie. You’re better off facing reality than sitting around on a dirt bike forum pretending like they’ve done anything successful. Plan for what’s next, not for what you hope happened today.
ns503 wrote:
What successes has Russia had?
Depends what the measure of success is and how that balances with perceived or acceptable failures.
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swordfish 11/18/2022 1:03pm
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Unarmed Russian POW’s executed after one of their group fired on Ukrainians while surrendering.

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swordfish wrote:
Unarmed Russian POW’s executed after one of their group fired on Ukrainians while surrendering. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/18/577317/s1200_4DC36999_79B3_415D_9CD4_E6BBF66381D4.jpg[/img]
Unarmed Russian POW’s executed after one of their group fired on Ukrainians while surrendering.

Blame it on the guy who fired that first shot. He knew the risks.
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swordfish 11/18/2022 2:35pm
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swordfish wrote:
Unarmed Russian POW’s executed after one of their group fired on Ukrainians while surrendering. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/18/577317/s1200_4DC36999_79B3_415D_9CD4_E6BBF66381D4.jpg[/img]
Unarmed Russian POW’s executed after one of their group fired on Ukrainians while surrendering.

Chance1216 wrote:
Blame it on the guy who fired that first shot. He knew the risks.
Yeah figured you’d be ok with 10 unarmed prisoners on their belly being executed with shots to the head in retaliation.
Must have been easy for you to rationalize that.
You’d be the first guy here crying foul if it was the other team.
Pretty pathetic Chance.
Only posted it because I knew what the reaction would be. Good you didn’t let me down.
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So not POWs and not surrendering?
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swordfish 11/18/2022 3:12pm
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So not POWs and not surrendering?
Don’t act stupid, you know how shit went down. I saw the vid. The last guy coming out to surrender opened fire, hit the camera man and was shot immediately. 10 enemy combatants had surrendered and were not a threat.
They shot them in the head on the ground one by one as a retaliation. We all know shit goes down in conflict.
Just wanted to call out all the usual hypocrites that post here and it’s nice to see them coming out to comment as expected.
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Where's the video?
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