Trump is in…it’s official

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11/16/2022 9:14am Edited Date/Time 11/16/2022 9:57am
Austin878 wrote:
All memes aside, I do wish he would get out of DeSantis way. It’s just fun to point out the hypocrisy and irony of those on...
All memes aside, I do wish he would get out of DeSantis way. It’s just fun to point out the hypocrisy and irony of those on the left when it comes to Trump. Biden is far less presidential and is not fit mentally nor physically to hold the office.
McG194 wrote:
DeSantis is the best governor in the country, but I don't want him president just yet. It is best for him if he just lets Trump...
DeSantis is the best governor in the country, but I don't want him president just yet. It is best for him if he just lets Trump do what he has to do and then in 28 he would have far less mess to clean up. If Trump gets in in 24 there will be some bloodletting like we have never seen before. Think about what he would do without having to worry about being reelected.

If Trump wins in 24, he will be a one-man revolution.
A one man revolution for who? Him and his personal interests and to "get even" with anyone who so much as gave him a dirty look the past 6 years, and to stroke his ego...or a revolution for the country?

it's about 50/50...ah...60/40...

I love his policies as president...I just don't like him, and I don't trust him. I worry his policies would take a back seat to his ego with no re-election possibilities...

Plus, he's un-electable...only thing worse than Trump in office is a bunch rabid, uninformed "woke" socialists pouring into the polls to vote against him, and losing the independent and moderate voters, and we get more Biden, more sanders, more AOC, more "the squad", more socialism...I just don't see the upside to him running...he's not going to win, and with him on the ballot we get more socialism and destruction of America from extreme leftists.

Hopefully DeSantis will run...and will beat Trump in the primary...and Trump bows out and doesn't try and run as an independent.
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I say Titan for president.Wink

You're probably too honest and incorruptible for the job.
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Austin878 wrote:
I meant in regard to people with a normally functioning mental capacity. Sorry for the confusion.
You’re not including yourself in that statement I hope🤦‍♂️
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DeSantis will Bitch Slap that Orange Shit Stain so far backwards Trumps mom will have an orgasm .
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After another 2 years of the socialists running this economy into the ditch, he might have a shot.
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11/16/2022 11:33am
jetbull721 wrote:
After another 2 years of the socialists running this economy into the ditch, he might have a shot.
Nope, people, in general, are too stupid to not vote out the status quo of the same schtick of different-day politicians that have been ruining 'Merica for the past 40yrs or more. Every single one serving today needs to get flushed out, and sent home with no long-term benefits and no kickbacks. Then they will see what the working class faces, but people will continue to vote in the same old song and dance year after year.

The US needs an enema
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11/16/2022 11:45am
jetbull721 wrote:
After another 2 years of the socialists running this economy into the ditch, he might have a shot.
You're behind the curve with the 'socialist' thing.

trump is calling us 'communists' now.

'Socialist' has lost its sting.
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11/16/2022 12:01pm
jetbull721 wrote:
After another 2 years of the socialists running this economy into the ditch, he might have a shot.
indy_maico wrote:
You're behind the curve with the 'socialist' thing.

trump is calling us 'communists' now.

'Socialist' has lost its sting.
Makes me a little sick to my stomach that a fellow motocrosser would basically say "yeah, I'm a socialist"


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11/16/2022 12:04pm
jetbull721 wrote:
Makes me a little sick to my stomach that a fellow motocrosser would basically say "yeah, I'm a socialist" [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/16/577022/s1200_socialists.jpg[/img]
Makes me a little sick to my stomach that a fellow motocrosser would basically say "yeah, I'm a socialist"


I'm sure you'll find the strength to carry on through the audacity of someone acknowledging they are the target of an intended insult.
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11/16/2022 12:18pm
jetbull721 wrote:
Makes me a little sick to my stomach that a fellow motocrosser would basically say "yeah, I'm a socialist" [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/16/577022/s1200_socialists.jpg[/img]
Makes me a little sick to my stomach that a fellow motocrosser would basically say "yeah, I'm a socialist"


I'm a proud Democrat.

I have been all my adult life, starting with campaigning for George McGovern when I was in high school and too young to even vote.

To many of the right-leaning posters here, that makes me a socialist, because in their minds, the two terms 'Democrat' and 'socialist' are interchangeable.

No problem. The labels are meaningless.
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11/16/2022 12:34pm
jetbull721 wrote:
After another 2 years of the socialists running this economy into the ditch, he might have a shot.
indy_maico wrote:
You're behind the curve with the 'socialist' thing.

trump is calling us 'communists' now.

'Socialist' has lost its sting.
jetbull721 wrote:
Makes me a little sick to my stomach that a fellow motocrosser would basically say "yeah, I'm a socialist" [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/16/577022/s1200_socialists.jpg[/img]
Makes me a little sick to my stomach that a fellow motocrosser would basically say "yeah, I'm a socialist"


Maybe you can define 'socialist'.
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11/16/2022 12:40pm
jetbull721 wrote:
Makes me a little sick to my stomach that a fellow motocrosser would basically say "yeah, I'm a socialist" [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/16/577022/s1200_socialists.jpg[/img]
Makes me a little sick to my stomach that a fellow motocrosser would basically say "yeah, I'm a socialist"


indy_maico wrote:
I'm a proud Democrat. I have been all my adult life, starting with campaigning for George McGovern when I was in high school and too young...
I'm a proud Democrat.

I have been all my adult life, starting with campaigning for George McGovern when I was in high school and too young to even vote.

To many of the right-leaning posters here, that makes me a socialist, because in their minds, the two terms 'Democrat' and 'socialist' are interchangeable.

No problem. The labels are meaningless.
You damn long hair commie pinko HIPPIE! Grinning
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11/16/2022 12:53pm
jetbull721 wrote:
Makes me a little sick to my stomach that a fellow motocrosser would basically say "yeah, I'm a socialist" [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/16/577022/s1200_socialists.jpg[/img]
Makes me a little sick to my stomach that a fellow motocrosser would basically say "yeah, I'm a socialist"


indy_maico wrote:
I'm a proud Democrat. I have been all my adult life, starting with campaigning for George McGovern when I was in high school and too young...
I'm a proud Democrat.

I have been all my adult life, starting with campaigning for George McGovern when I was in high school and too young to even vote.

To many of the right-leaning posters here, that makes me a socialist, because in their minds, the two terms 'Democrat' and 'socialist' are interchangeable.

No problem. The labels are meaningless.
TeamGreen wrote:
You damn long hair commie pinko HIPPIE! Grinning
You got that right.

When Brad Lackey raced the CZ with the peace dove on the crossbar, he was my hero!
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11/16/2022 12:56pm
indy_maico wrote:
I'm a proud Democrat. I have been all my adult life, starting with campaigning for George McGovern when I was in high school and too young...
I'm a proud Democrat.

I have been all my adult life, starting with campaigning for George McGovern when I was in high school and too young to even vote.

To many of the right-leaning posters here, that makes me a socialist, because in their minds, the two terms 'Democrat' and 'socialist' are interchangeable.

No problem. The labels are meaningless.
How can anyone be a “proud” Democrat after the past few years?
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11/16/2022 12:59pm
indy_maico wrote:
You're behind the curve with the 'socialist' thing.

trump is calling us 'communists' now.

'Socialist' has lost its sting.
jetbull721 wrote:
Makes me a little sick to my stomach that a fellow motocrosser would basically say "yeah, I'm a socialist" [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/16/577022/s1200_socialists.jpg[/img]
Makes me a little sick to my stomach that a fellow motocrosser would basically say "yeah, I'm a socialist"


ns503 wrote:
Maybe you can define 'socialist'.
Government managed re-distribution of wealth to the level of creating moral hazard.
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We are affectionately known as “Kutthecrapout”. A global regime dedicated to restoring the US back to some semblance of normalcy. Join us, comrade. Laughing
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indy_maico wrote:
I'm a proud Democrat. I have been all my adult life, starting with campaigning for George McGovern when I was in high school and too young...
I'm a proud Democrat.

I have been all my adult life, starting with campaigning for George McGovern when I was in high school and too young to even vote.

To many of the right-leaning posters here, that makes me a socialist, because in their minds, the two terms 'Democrat' and 'socialist' are interchangeable.

No problem. The labels are meaningless.
I said would you beleive this man has gone as far
As tearin' Wallace stickers off the bumpers of cars
And he voted for George McGoveren for president
Well he's a friend of them long-haired hippie type pinko fags
I betcha he's even got a Commie flag
Tacked up on the wall inside of his garage
He's a snake in the grass I tell ya guys
He may look dumb but that's jus a disguise
He's a mastermind in the ways of espionage
They all started lookin' real suspicious at him
And he jumped up an' said jes' wait a minute Jim
You know he's lyin' I've been livin' here all of my life
I'm a faithfull follower of Brother John Burch
And I belong to the Antioch Baptist Church
And I ain't even got a garage you can call home and ask my wife
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Are you saying that Indy maico is green teeth or the other guy? It all makes sense now!😄
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11/16/2022 1:57pm
indy_maico wrote:
You're behind the curve with the 'socialist' thing.

trump is calling us 'communists' now.

'Socialist' has lost its sting.
jetbull721 wrote:
Makes me a little sick to my stomach that a fellow motocrosser would basically say "yeah, I'm a socialist" [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/11/16/577022/s1200_socialists.jpg[/img]
Makes me a little sick to my stomach that a fellow motocrosser would basically say "yeah, I'm a socialist"


ns503 wrote:
Maybe you can define 'socialist'.
Socialists look to the government to solve their problems.

Conservatives look to themselves to solve their problems.

Conservatives believe the true value in a society are the people, and that the government should function in a very limited capacity.

Socialists believe the true value in a society is the government, and that the government should function in a very broad capacity.

Conservatives believe in the freedom to succeed while accepting the freedom to fail.

Socialists will trade the freedom to succeed for a government provided safety net to prevent failure.

Conservatives believe in private ownership of the means of production

Socialists believe in the the governments ownership of the means of production

Conservatives believe in equal opportunity.

Socialists believe in equal outcome.

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Titan1 wrote:
Socialists look to the government to solve their problems. Conservatives look to themselves to solve their problems. Conservatives believe the true value in a society are...
Socialists look to the government to solve their problems.

Conservatives look to themselves to solve their problems.

Conservatives believe the true value in a society are the people, and that the government should function in a very limited capacity.

Socialists believe the true value in a society is the government, and that the government should function in a very broad capacity.

Conservatives believe in the freedom to succeed while accepting the freedom to fail.

Socialists will trade the freedom to succeed for a government provided safety net to prevent failure.

Conservatives believe in private ownership of the means of production

Socialists believe in the the governments ownership of the means of production

Conservatives believe in equal opportunity.

Socialists believe in equal outcome.

It doesn't get any plainer than that.
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11/16/2022 2:15pm
Titan1 wrote:
Socialists look to the government to solve their problems. Conservatives look to themselves to solve their problems. Conservatives believe the true value in a society are...
Socialists look to the government to solve their problems.

Conservatives look to themselves to solve their problems.

Conservatives believe the true value in a society are the people, and that the government should function in a very limited capacity.

Socialists believe the true value in a society is the government, and that the government should function in a very broad capacity.

Conservatives believe in the freedom to succeed while accepting the freedom to fail.

Socialists will trade the freedom to succeed for a government provided safety net to prevent failure.

Conservatives believe in private ownership of the means of production

Socialists believe in the the governments ownership of the means of production

Conservatives believe in equal opportunity.

Socialists believe in equal outcome.

Is there anything between socialist and conservative?
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Austin878
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11/16/2022 3:05pm Edited Date/Time 11/16/2022 3:06pm
Trump's "captive" audience:


“A crowd has formed by the exit of the ballroom as some try to leave Trump’s announcement speech before he has finished,” tweeted ABC News’ Olivia Rubin. “But security won’t let them.”

The video was posted minutes after Trump’s speech ended, but it clearly was taken during his speech as the audio makes clear he was still addressing the crowd at Mar-a-Lago.

MSNBC’s Katie S. Phang, an attorney, anchor, and legal contributor responded: “‘Captive’ audience there.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-mocked-over-video-…
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11/16/2022 3:08pm
Titan1 wrote:
Socialists look to the government to solve their problems. Conservatives look to themselves to solve their problems. Conservatives believe the true value in a society are...
Socialists look to the government to solve their problems.

Conservatives look to themselves to solve their problems.

Conservatives believe the true value in a society are the people, and that the government should function in a very limited capacity.

Socialists believe the true value in a society is the government, and that the government should function in a very broad capacity.

Conservatives believe in the freedom to succeed while accepting the freedom to fail.

Socialists will trade the freedom to succeed for a government provided safety net to prevent failure.

Conservatives believe in private ownership of the means of production

Socialists believe in the the governments ownership of the means of production

Conservatives believe in equal opportunity.

Socialists believe in equal outcome.

Exactly.

That's why branding Democrats as 'socialists' is a fail.

I don't know any Democrats that fit into that little explainer.

You guys need to come up with some other 'ism' to brand us with.

No Democrat believes this:


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Austin878
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You never said how you can be a “proud” democrat given the state of things for the past few years?
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11/16/2022 6:30pm
indy_maico wrote:
I'm a proud Democrat. I have been all my adult life, starting with campaigning for George McGovern when I was in high school and too young...
I'm a proud Democrat.

I have been all my adult life, starting with campaigning for George McGovern when I was in high school and too young to even vote.

To many of the right-leaning posters here, that makes me a socialist, because in their minds, the two terms 'Democrat' and 'socialist' are interchangeable.

No problem. The labels are meaningless.
You are a proud Democrat and I am a proud Republican and I have absolutely no problem with you or your views. The first election I was old enough to vote in was Regan vs Carter and Iran let the hostages go when Regan was elected because he said he would come and get them. Jimmy Carter is and was a great man just not a great president but I still respect the hell out of him. Smile
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Indy is a good dude. Been dicing with him for many, many years. His opinion is just as valid as yours.
One of my most enlightening moments was when a person who I thought was infallible reminded me that he could still be wrong.

You're still a dope smoking, fM radio, pinko commie though Indy.
Nothing personal though.
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vet323 wrote:
There was zero chance he would just fade away. I believe Desantis will be the nominee, but he was always going to have to get past...
There was zero chance he would just fade away. I believe Desantis will be the nominee, but he was always going to have to get past Trump first.

Hopefully he has the good sense to basically ignore Trump, because suffocation is the only way he'll die.
DeSantis .. maybe holding back until Dem nomination is clearer .. he has momentum right now .. but can't afford to piss off ..maga or die voters
11/16/2022 7:59pm
Titan1 wrote:
Socialists look to the government to solve their problems. Conservatives look to themselves to solve their problems. Conservatives believe the true value in a society are...
Socialists look to the government to solve their problems.

Conservatives look to themselves to solve their problems.

Conservatives believe the true value in a society are the people, and that the government should function in a very limited capacity.

Socialists believe the true value in a society is the government, and that the government should function in a very broad capacity.

Conservatives believe in the freedom to succeed while accepting the freedom to fail.

Socialists will trade the freedom to succeed for a government provided safety net to prevent failure.

Conservatives believe in private ownership of the means of production

Socialists believe in the the governments ownership of the means of production

Conservatives believe in equal opportunity.

Socialists believe in equal outcome.

With that definition . Which countries do you consider socialist ?
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