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I have an older set of WP CC forks that are great. The same tuner with the CV and they aren’t as good. The WPCC internally are similar to the new inserts.
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I took the insert fork with me to NL this past summer to ride with - some of the faster EMX guys that tried it said they liked the insert fork better than their KYB setup from Technical Touch.
Do you know the wall thickness difference of the CV outer tubes vs. other WP forks?
Im torn between the kyb and 6500. Obviously the kyb is a few hundred dollars more, but is it worth it? Ive been a yamaha guy for the past year and a half, so thats what sways me to the kyb inserts. I still have my 21 yz450 to go with my 22 350sxf.
You can order the 6500 kit from a tuner with springs and a revalve for under $2000 depending on shipping cost. Then if your capable enough you can do the install yourself. The KYB route is a little more complicated as most tuners ive talked to want to do the install themselves and wont sell it as a DIY kit, for quality reasons which I understand 100%.
JBI suspension has me really thinking about these 6500's. Then I talk to a few suspension guys near me who sell both and they recommend the kyb which sways me back to kyb.
The 6500s go for $1200-$1300 or so. Not sure why you’d pay to revalve them right away. They’re really good as-is and a steal compared to every other closed cartridge system on the market.
I had JBI install my KYB inserts a few weeks ago, including changing my lugs on my 23 KTM 350 SX. They work excellent!
I needed springs. He had a set that was pulled out of another KYB fork, zero hours they were new. He only charged me $60.00
He also re-valved my rear shock.
With all the above said work, great quality and superb customer service, total price including shipping was just a tick over $600.00
That said... he's been doing alot of testing with the WP 6500 cartridges, I'm certain those would be excellent as well.
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Im a little heavier than your average rider lol. Im 6'-1 and 285lb. I highly doubt im in range for what those forks are setup for hence the reason I need a revalve no matter which option I go with.
JB Covington at JBI is excellent. We are on our 3rd set of stuff from him. Excellent communication and quality service. I'd love to try the 6500s but I like the Lucky setup. JB said he just got a new guy on staff, full time, that spent years at Pro Circuit, and he's really happy with the quality they are producing since. We had PC stuff on our Supermini and it was game changing for my son. JBI has been just as good on our Austrian bikes. One AER, on Lucky conversion. Both were spot on as delivered.
Just helped my buddy install a set.
it was a joke how easy it went. Once the forks were off it took about 15 min per side. In hindsight I would have spent the extra $300 US for the 6500’s over my Luckies.
The $6500’s are easily the best deal out there.
Same here. Could have saved myself some cash and a bunch of hours tinkering with valving if I just went 6500s to begin with.
My original plan was to get the kyb and try to adjust the valving myself. Ive never messed with shims before and watched a few videos on it. I just dont know if there is a chart or something to use as a starting point.
In my limited experience, you spring for weight and valve for riding type/ability. I bet you could get the 6500s working great with springs and oil.
Racetech has info for their gold valves. If your plan is just to mess with shims with no experience the 6500 is probably a better choice. Showa and kyb require you grind the peening off the nut to get the shin stack off too. Wp usually has threadlock.
Good info. Thank you. I did watch a video of the process to grind down the peen and it doesnt seem too bad as long as you go slow and are carefull.
If you can’t get the peen ground off you purposely shouldn’t be valving either way. I wouldn’t let that be the determining factor. That said if I was in the market I’d get the 6500’s for the cost saving and wp engineered them for the wp fork.
New to KTM and the air forks. At the price point for the 6500 cartridges.. it’s hard not to give them a try. Any suggestions on where to pick some up?
You can also try ProTune in Ohio. He sells the 6500's as well.
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