Porting / Big Bore 2 stroke options

AZIMM84
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I have tried to contact Eric Gorr several times is he still in business? Any other companies out there budget friendly. I have an older CR125 I am wanting to get some cylinder work done.
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FWYT
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10/27/2022 3:30pm
How did you go about contacting him? This past summer I sent emails and texts and heard nothing back. Then I called him one day and he picked up first ring and answered all my questions. Old school! Hahaha

His website had said he was on vacation all of September. I was planning on sending something his way here soon but I still have to talk to him as well. Let us know if you get hold of him.

UGOTBIT
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10/27/2022 3:48pm
Tom Morgan dude
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Wiscomx
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10/27/2022 4:11pm
Williams motorwerx, Tom Morgan, tzr probably have some affordable options
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Rider 5280
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10/28/2022 9:24am Edited Date/Time 10/28/2022 10:41am
Eric Gorr = an "interesting guy."

I wasted a lot of time and $$$ on his YZ295 "mo betta" kit in my 2006 YZ250 2-stroke. The powervalve ended up coming into contact with the piston due to an assembly issue. As I understand it, he was having college students/others perform the final assembly. Long story short, I ended up getting my $$$ back to a degree ... but I had to call like 25 times, no kidding, and it took a looooong time. FWIW, he was never argumentative.

Another time I dealt with him on the early 2002-2004 CRF450Rs (the first time I dealt with him actually), I sent him new valves, a new cam, etc., plus work instructions per his request. He did SOME work requested (not all), then sent me everything back with no communication whatsoever in the process. I called him (again it took 20+ times) and when I did get him, I asked why he didn't use all the parts I sent him and I explained "I was hoping to replace the ENTIRE valve train to get everything on the same replacement interval." He said "Oh. I didn't think everything needed replacing." OK, appreciate where you were coming from, BUT I really wanted the work done AND AT LEAST a discussion ... about my WORK REQUEST. To me, this was like "I rebuilt your 100-hour YZ250F and the timing chain looked good, so I reused it/put it back in." Sooooooo frustrating. Note, however, I never had any issues with his work on this project, but I only put like 10 hours on things before I changed bikes.

Later he went to Millennium as their "big bore & porting guru" (and other assignments as well, no doubt) and then they parted ways fairly shortly therafter. No idea what happened, but telling.

My 2 cents on Eric Gorr is to steer clear.

"When you can't get in touch with Gorr, the Universe is trying to tell you something." -Rider 5280, 28-Oct-2022

Finally, truth in lending: The last time I dealt with Eric was in ~ 2011 (and initially ~ 2004).

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Dear Eric Gorr Customer Service (that's you, Eric!),

Quality work is a must and communication matters. Big time.

Please respect your customers' time, safety, and pocketbooks.

Sincerely,
The Universe
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TheTrackKid
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10/28/2022 11:15am
Another for Tom Morgan. Lots of information and high quality work.
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AZIMM84
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10/28/2022 12:12pm
Tom Morgan replied instantly with massive amounts of info, he's getting my money!
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I have sent a grand total of zero work to Tom Morgan, however he has consistently and quickly responded to any email we have ever sent him. And he has willingly responded in great detail, not like we had to pull teeth to extract information. And that's for a non-customer.
Speaks volumes about his commitment to customer service.
Definitely a future customer here.
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10/29/2022 7:05am
UGOTBIT wrote:
Tom Morgan dude
100% this^^^^
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Rickyisms
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10/29/2022 8:49am
Rider 5280 wrote:
Eric Gorr = an "interesting guy." I wasted a lot of time and $$$ on his YZ295 "mo betta" kit in my 2006 YZ250 2-stroke. The...
Eric Gorr = an "interesting guy."

I wasted a lot of time and $$$ on his YZ295 "mo betta" kit in my 2006 YZ250 2-stroke. The powervalve ended up coming into contact with the piston due to an assembly issue. As I understand it, he was having college students/others perform the final assembly. Long story short, I ended up getting my $$$ back to a degree ... but I had to call like 25 times, no kidding, and it took a looooong time. FWIW, he was never argumentative.

Another time I dealt with him on the early 2002-2004 CRF450Rs (the first time I dealt with him actually), I sent him new valves, a new cam, etc., plus work instructions per his request. He did SOME work requested (not all), then sent me everything back with no communication whatsoever in the process. I called him (again it took 20+ times) and when I did get him, I asked why he didn't use all the parts I sent him and I explained "I was hoping to replace the ENTIRE valve train to get everything on the same replacement interval." He said "Oh. I didn't think everything needed replacing." OK, appreciate where you were coming from, BUT I really wanted the work done AND AT LEAST a discussion ... about my WORK REQUEST. To me, this was like "I rebuilt your 100-hour YZ250F and the timing chain looked good, so I reused it/put it back in." Sooooooo frustrating. Note, however, I never had any issues with his work on this project, but I only put like 10 hours on things before I changed bikes.

Later he went to Millennium as their "big bore & porting guru" (and other assignments as well, no doubt) and then they parted ways fairly shortly therafter. No idea what happened, but telling.

My 2 cents on Eric Gorr is to steer clear.

"When you can't get in touch with Gorr, the Universe is trying to tell you something." -Rider 5280, 28-Oct-2022

Finally, truth in lending: The last time I dealt with Eric was in ~ 2011 (and initially ~ 2004).

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Dear Eric Gorr Customer Service (that's you, Eric!),

Quality work is a must and communication matters. Big time.

Please respect your customers' time, safety, and pocketbooks.

Sincerely,
The Universe
Had no clue Gorr wasn’t at Millenium anymore.
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Electro21
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10/29/2022 7:06pm Edited Date/Time 10/29/2022 10:42pm
Tom Morgan is great, very good at communicating, haven't been able to ride the engine I had him do yet. Still building the bike and recovering from a knee replacement.

For the second bike I'm building I decided to try Tokyo Mods because Tom Morgan was pretty backed up, 4-5 months I believe at the time. (Good sign though) I'm waiting to get my stuff back from Tokyo Mods, I bought a Cylinder Works head from CRF's Only that's still on backorder. Apparently, Tokyo Mods also runs CRF's Only as well I found out just by noticing similar email styles, website design and both of the people replying were named Justin. Justin has been great at communication as well. Tokyo Mods was a little more expensive, but not too much more. I got the Tokyo Mods carb mod and CDI for both bikes as well. 2007 CRF 250R.
garasaki
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10/31/2022 11:57am
I just got a cylinder back from Eric Gorr.

It's a 98 RM125, notorious for breaking power valves. I had a power valve break. Sourced some new ones, put em in but didn't put everything back together (figured he'd be taking them out anyway). Head was all shredded so sent the head and cylinder in for some work.

No communication (this is my second time working with him so knew that'd be the case), except for a handwritten note in a baggie with some of the power valve parts:

"My website says DO NOT DISASSEBLE THE POWER VALVES. Good luck putting these back together"

I was quite taken aback.

I also didn't ask for a bored cylinder, but he bored it out 2mm. Sent me a new piston too.

So for 185 bucks, I got head work, cylinder/head lapping, porting, bored out cylinder, piston, return shipping, and a snarky, passive aggressive note.

Frankly, as much as the note POed me, I'm overall happy with the transaction Whistling

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garasaki
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11/9/2022 6:02am
Had that bike out for it's first ride yesterday.

Everything went together real smooth. Heat cycled a few times, and sort of kind of took it easy yesterday.

Thing ran like a top. It's almost a luggable 125.

Again, super happy with the work from Eric Gorr.
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