From Mike Alessi to the Fans!!

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8/13/2009 8:11am
i found it odd that he never rode with the rest of the team... but that's his program and why change what works.

best of luck to Mikey, i talked to him for a minute at Lakewood and was impressed with how friendly he was. good kid.

peace.
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8/13/2009 8:11am
Trip wrote:
Dump the whole thing except for the first post, then lock it!!!
swizcore wrote:
Im not one for censorship but Trip's onto something here.
WORCSRacer wrote:
Trip only wants it locked up because he can't escape the gravitational black hole pull of trying to defend Mike from the evil opinion of Matthes...
Trip only wants it locked up because he can't escape the gravitational black hole pull of trying to defend Mike from the evil opinion of Matthes and that is now ruining his life...
True as well.
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8/13/2009 8:17am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 1:30am
KAWboy14 wrote:
why was this a bad idea? kinda hard to argue with anything he said in his post!
Because generally speaking everybody on here acts like a prick and rips the thoughts & opinions of other people to pieces just to bolster thier own fragile egos.


That is why I did not think it a good idea.

Doesn't seem to have happened though, nice.
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8/13/2009 8:42am
peelout719 wrote:
i found it odd that he never rode with the rest of the team... but that's his program and why change what works. best of luck...
i found it odd that he never rode with the rest of the team... but that's his program and why change what works.

best of luck to Mikey, i talked to him for a minute at Lakewood and was impressed with how friendly he was. good kid.

peace.
Talking with a factory mechanic a while back, he kind of chuckled at the notion of the team riding together regularly. "It's not like we hang out together, singing Kum ba yah."

Except for designated test days, all these guys are pretty much on their own program.

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8/13/2009 8:51am
Best of luck to you Mike…

At the end of the day, you have to do what’s best for Mike Alessi, and Mike Alessi alone! Keep rehabilitating the knee and working your ass off, work hard this off season and go earn that #1 plate that has eluded you…
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8/13/2009 8:58am
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Talking with a factory mechanic a while back, he kind of chuckled at the notion of the team riding together regularly. "It's not like we hang...
Talking with a factory mechanic a while back, he kind of chuckled at the notion of the team riding together regularly. "It's not like we hang out together, singing Kum ba yah."

Except for designated test days, all these guys are pretty much on their own program.
good point gibby.

however, even in the rockstar suzuki ads before supercross, it was byrne, reed, and dungey. don't remember seeing the 800 on the video.
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8/13/2009 9:08am
Without any denials, then the perception that what was written is truthful.
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8/13/2009 9:26am
peelout719 wrote:
good point gibby. however, even in the rockstar suzuki ads before supercross, it was byrne, reed, and dungey. don't remember seeing the 800 on the video.
good point gibby.

however, even in the rockstar suzuki ads before supercross, it was byrne, reed, and dungey. don't remember seeing the 800 on the video.
well... they must've ridden together seeing how Reed was the one that told Mike not to do the jump that ended up breaking his leg. I think Alessi was still injured during the photo shoot stuff and he even came back to race supercross before he was done healing.
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8/13/2009 9:29am
sorry... i still dont believe the hypeWhistling
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8/13/2009 9:29am
how come we never hear what jeff allessi or danielle has to say?
Camp332
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8/13/2009 9:29am
I like Mike Alessi, because he talks like Yamaboy.
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8/13/2009 9:49am
You guys were my favorite amateurs when you were coming up Mike. Followed your racing pretty closely. Best of luck to you when you get back on the track. If you guys ever need a place to practice when in Colorado you're ride here is on the house. Go get em in 010.
8/13/2009 9:55am
.......................you may have burned the bridge with Danielle when you asked for a "boobie pic".

Why do you feel Mike's girlfriend and brother (Tony's son and potential future dauhter-n-law) need to say anything? No one has been accused of anything, so no comming to the family's defense is really necessary.

Matthes wrote his article without consulting or checking the facts with the Alesssi's. Mike has already let y'all know (above) he has some deals in the works, and all is well with the family business of racing. So Matthes "informers" may not be so correct, or they may just be "mis-informers".

So what more does Dani and Jeff need to say? If you really want to ask them somehting, hit them up on thier myspace page. They seem to check that frequently when they are not travelling. Mike responds to my sons questions on his myspace page often. They are all good kids.


8/13/2009 10:02am
Not taking sides here, but I do see some similarities to people in the past. For instance. Jeff Matiasevich, (by the way my favorite rider, ie: name Miedoso Racing) he burnt a couple bridges with teams, and then he was done. He did satelite teams, but really, if it isn't being supported like Stewarts or Windhams teams, by the factories, then it isn't a winning team. Like even if Alessi does start a team, if he doesn't get help from the factories, most likely he isn't gonna have the results he has now. Just my opinion again. And honestly, even if he has his own team, my guess with his results, he will get help, just not factory motors and suspension. But what Mike said is honest, and hey, he wants his dad at every corner, then sobe it. (get it so be sobe ha ha) Anyways, when you make choices in your life, you have to live with the consequences. If he doesn't get a ride and still does good, then he can tell everyone ha. If he doesn't get a ride, and he does poorly and falls away like others in the past, then so be it again. It is all about choices we make. He is his own person. He is choosing to let his father direct him, if that is the case. If he isn't, then he is choosing that as well. If they took apart motors and suspension, then it's like a person who got caught shoplifting. That person can never have a concealed handgun license. It's a choice they made and have to live with it. Just my 2 cents.
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8/13/2009 10:03am
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Mike - Hard to argue with anything you said, you've had great results. I'd like to point out that in the amatuers, anyone with good sponsors...
Mike - Hard to argue with anything you said, you've had great results. I'd like to point out that in the amatuers, anyone with good sponsors or a deap wallet can be on equal equipment. In the pros, the equipment a factory rider has is better than the privateers -it's not a level playing field. There's only so many factory rides & not many bridges to burn.

Good luck with continued success.
lostboy819 wrote:
So if you put a privateer on a factory bike and pitting out of a factory rig then he should finish top 5 or 10...
So if you put a privateer on a factory bike and pitting out of a factory rig then he should finish top 5 or 10 ? So you are saying a mid pack privateer on a factory bike should run at the front? It seems to me the same guys who win at the national level on their unfair advantage factory bike were the same guys winning when they were all on equal equipment in the amateures. It not about the bike in motocross its the rider.
True, most of it is the rider. But, I bet even the Alessis would argue with your post. Why would they have a shock torn down to see if it had factory internals, same with a KTM engine? Why was Jeff paying to ride for a team last year, to get on a decent bike - the equipment matters. I bet Jeff would run a bit closer to Mikes pace, if he had Mike's bike.
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8/13/2009 10:05am
.......................you may have burned the bridge with Danielle when you asked for a "boobie pic". Why do you feel Mike's girlfriend and brother (Tony's son and...
.......................you may have burned the bridge with Danielle when you asked for a "boobie pic".

Why do you feel Mike's girlfriend and brother (Tony's son and potential future dauhter-n-law) need to say anything? No one has been accused of anything, so no comming to the family's defense is really necessary.

Matthes wrote his article without consulting or checking the facts with the Alesssi's. Mike has already let y'all know (above) he has some deals in the works, and all is well with the family business of racing. So Matthes "informers" may not be so correct, or they may just be "mis-informers".

So what more does Dani and Jeff need to say? If you really want to ask them somehting, hit them up on thier myspace page. They seem to check that frequently when they are not travelling. Mike responds to my sons questions on his myspace page often. They are all good kids.


Okay, like I stated before. I don't think the Alessi's should have to defend themselves. No one asked them to do that. They felt the need to do it. But... if you're going to come on here and say there are false statements in an article... shouldn't you say which ones they are instead of just a blanket answer that says it's inaccurate? And when you're saying that Matthes didn't check facts, he's actually said that he's spoken to Tony Alessi about the shock and other stuff.

So... when you're saying he didn't verify facts... what it sounds like you're saying to me is that he didn't ask permission. Because nobody has denied anything specific.
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8/13/2009 10:45am
So....did Mike deny ANYTHING Matthes said? Steve expressed an opinion and relayed some things he's heard about. Mike obviously doesn't agree with the opinion (get rid of Dad) - what's the big deal? Seems to me MA did nothing but exactly what most of us expected - defend his program. He didn't argue Steve's claims about the contract breaches, did he?

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8/13/2009 10:50am
Wow! Thank you to everyone on the post! I am really flattered that so many people have taken the time to show an interest in my...
Wow! Thank you to everyone on the post!
I am really flattered that so many people have taken the time to show an interest in my life and my racing program!
I want to get the record straight about my program, which includes; me and Danielle, my Dad, and my brother Jeff, this program is a solid, proven program since as long as I can remember.
Our program has seen me achieve success as an amateur with eleven Loretta Lynn Titles. When I turned Professional in 2005 our program helped me, with the help of Terry Varner/ Race Tech Honda, podium in the Premier 450 class on my second attempt, alongside the great Ricky Carmichael and Kevin Windham.
Over the past years I have won my share of professional races. I have been a runner up in both 250 and 450 MX classes.
I just want to say I am happy with my program I have, and proud of the results I have produced.
I do not have any intentions of changing my program; it has proven successful in the past. My program was working great the last two years until my freak accidents. I am certain it will produce a championship in the future.
Thanks again for all of you who have taken the time to be a part of this post.
Mike Alessi #800
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8/13/2009 10:55am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 1:30am
.......................you may have burned the bridge with Danielle when you asked for a "boobie pic". Why do you feel Mike's girlfriend and brother (Tony's son and...
.......................you may have burned the bridge with Danielle when you asked for a "boobie pic".

Why do you feel Mike's girlfriend and brother (Tony's son and potential future dauhter-n-law) need to say anything? No one has been accused of anything, so no comming to the family's defense is really necessary.

Matthes wrote his article without consulting or checking the facts with the Alesssi's. Mike has already let y'all know (above) he has some deals in the works, and all is well with the family business of racing. So Matthes "informers" may not be so correct, or they may just be "mis-informers".

So what more does Dani and Jeff need to say? If you really want to ask them somehting, hit them up on thier myspace page. They seem to check that frequently when they are not travelling. Mike responds to my sons questions on his myspace page often. They are all good kids.


rc4187 wrote:
Okay, like I stated before. [u]I don't think the Alessi's should have to defend themselves[/u]. No one asked them to do that. They felt the need...
Okay, like I stated before. I don't think the Alessi's should have to defend themselves. No one asked them to do that. They felt the need to do it. But... if you're going to come on here and say there are false statements in an article... shouldn't you say which ones they are instead of just a blanket answer that says it's inaccurate? And when you're saying that Matthes didn't check facts, he's actually said that he's spoken to Tony Alessi about the shock and other stuff.

So... when you're saying he didn't verify facts... what it sounds like you're saying to me is that he didn't ask permission. Because nobody has denied anything specific.


I hear ya rc4187, and let me see if I can make one of my points a bit more clear.

Matthes indicated the Alessi options for rides next year are limited because of the various reasons he talked about in his article. The fact is, their options are really not any more limited than any other rider outside of CR, RV and JBS that may be looking for a ride. Thats my point. Mike said he has several options, which is true, and if you do the math, it would have to include the possibility of him riding on the brands/teams Matthes said he burned through.

Kawi has RV, Suzuki has CR, L&M has James (but factory Yami is open), and the rest have openings for a top rider. So factor in the possibility that Suzuki could still retain Mike, and it looks like he has some pretty good opportunities.

Thats the facts I think Matthes did not really highlight, but to be frank, those that know whats really going on with rider contracts would not tell him anyway, because like me, they can't reveal any of those details without getting into trouble.

You are correct, I was not talking about the motor/shock and all that other stuff, I have no idea if that stuff is true. That happened way before I met them. But frankly I can tell you that those matters no longer appear to be relavent to their current status when it comes to real business.
8/13/2009 10:56am
Good deal, this has to be a record for the highest national number poster... with the best points total to post on here so far! Did...
Good deal, this has to be a record for the highest national number poster... with the best points total to post on here so far!

Did that make sense?
GuyB wrote:
That you know of. Wink
Ok, I will bite.

Who has posted that we didn't know it was them?
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8/13/2009 11:01am
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8/13/2009 11:20am
iampkrfn wrote:
So....did Mike deny ANYTHING Matthes said? Steve expressed an opinion and relayed some things he's heard about. Mike obviously doesn't agree with the opinion (get rid...
So....did Mike deny ANYTHING Matthes said? Steve expressed an opinion and relayed some things he's heard about. Mike obviously doesn't agree with the opinion (get rid of Dad) - what's the big deal? Seems to me MA did nothing but exactly what most of us expected - defend his program. He didn't argue Steve's claims about the contract breaches, did he?

You are assuming Mike actually cares about what Matthes wrote. The Alessi's are a pretty focused bunch and the MX business usually comes first with them. Tony rarely gets on a computer. If you want his attention you pretty much have to text him on his cell or catch him at the races ( he is very accessable and loves to talk about the sport).

Just thinking out loud, Matthes did not really have much new to say for the Alessi's to read. He just crafted a new theory about how Mike may have challenges picking up a ride next year because of all these past skeletons in the closet.

If you are Mike, and you are just about to go back to work to get ready for next year, and you already have some interest in deals for next year, why bother with Matthes comments? Based on Mike's few comments, Matthes theory proved to not have much validity. Nuff said eh?
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8/13/2009 11:31am
iampkrfn wrote:
So....did Mike deny ANYTHING Matthes said? Steve expressed an opinion and relayed some things he's heard about. Mike obviously doesn't agree with the opinion (get rid...
So....did Mike deny ANYTHING Matthes said? Steve expressed an opinion and relayed some things he's heard about. Mike obviously doesn't agree with the opinion (get rid of Dad) - what's the big deal? Seems to me MA did nothing but exactly what most of us expected - defend his program. He didn't argue Steve's claims about the contract breaches, did he?

You are assuming Mike actually cares about what Matthes wrote. The Alessi's are a pretty focused bunch and the MX business usually comes first with them...
You are assuming Mike actually cares about what Matthes wrote. The Alessi's are a pretty focused bunch and the MX business usually comes first with them. Tony rarely gets on a computer. If you want his attention you pretty much have to text him on his cell or catch him at the races ( he is very accessable and loves to talk about the sport).

Just thinking out loud, Matthes did not really have much new to say for the Alessi's to read. He just crafted a new theory about how Mike may have challenges picking up a ride next year because of all these past skeletons in the closet.

If you are Mike, and you are just about to go back to work to get ready for next year, and you already have some interest in deals for next year, why bother with Matthes comments? Based on Mike's few comments, Matthes theory proved to not have much validity. Nuff said eh?
Agreed!!!
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8/13/2009 11:33am
I hear ya rc4187, and let me see if I can make one of my points a bit more clear. Matthes indicated the Alessi options for...


I hear ya rc4187, and let me see if I can make one of my points a bit more clear.

Matthes indicated the Alessi options for rides next year are limited because of the various reasons he talked about in his article. The fact is, their options are really not any more limited than any other rider outside of CR, RV and JBS that may be looking for a ride. Thats my point. Mike said he has several options, which is true, and if you do the math, it would have to include the possibility of him riding on the brands/teams Matthes said he burned through.

Kawi has RV, Suzuki has CR, L&M has James (but factory Yami is open), and the rest have openings for a top rider. So factor in the possibility that Suzuki could still retain Mike, and it looks like he has some pretty good opportunities.

Thats the facts I think Matthes did not really highlight, but to be frank, those that know whats really going on with rider contracts would not tell him anyway, because like me, they can't reveal any of those details without getting into trouble.

You are correct, I was not talking about the motor/shock and all that other stuff, I have no idea if that stuff is true. That happened way before I met them. But frankly I can tell you that those matters no longer appear to be relavent to their current status when it comes to real business.
You can write your opinion piece on your blog and we can all read it. You don't have to talk to both sides of a subject to have a opinion . Matthes needs to provide zero facts. It was a Opinion piece.
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8/13/2009 11:35am
iampkrfn wrote:
So....did Mike deny ANYTHING Matthes said? Steve expressed an opinion and relayed some things he's heard about. Mike obviously doesn't agree with the opinion (get rid...
So....did Mike deny ANYTHING Matthes said? Steve expressed an opinion and relayed some things he's heard about. Mike obviously doesn't agree with the opinion (get rid of Dad) - what's the big deal? Seems to me MA did nothing but exactly what most of us expected - defend his program. He didn't argue Steve's claims about the contract breaches, did he?

You are assuming Mike actually cares about what Matthes wrote. The Alessi's are a pretty focused bunch and the MX business usually comes first with them...
You are assuming Mike actually cares about what Matthes wrote. The Alessi's are a pretty focused bunch and the MX business usually comes first with them. Tony rarely gets on a computer. If you want his attention you pretty much have to text him on his cell or catch him at the races ( he is very accessable and loves to talk about the sport).

Just thinking out loud, Matthes did not really have much new to say for the Alessi's to read. He just crafted a new theory about how Mike may have challenges picking up a ride next year because of all these past skeletons in the closet.

If you are Mike, and you are just about to go back to work to get ready for next year, and you already have some interest in deals for next year, why bother with Matthes comments? Based on Mike's few comments, Matthes theory proved to not have much validity. Nuff said eh?
Trip wrote:
Agreed!!!
I think you're a very well spoken and written bullshitter/spinster.

Mike actually care? Well duh? Why else would he come to Vital to post?

Mike nor AAA denied any of the whispers/rumors/etc. that Matthes wrote about. I'll take non-denial as truthful.
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8/13/2009 11:52am
This post is the saddest one I have read in many years, and would make any shrink to tic? A kid isn't supposed to protect his father like this. I suggest that this thread is enough "trauma" for a kid to handle suggesting urgently the father should sober up and STEP AWAY NOW. Dad should be the one posting this, and if necessary take the heat if there's one to take, NOT THE KID! Is Tony watching this? Is his emotions of higher value than his kid or something?

I'm pretty sure Mike knows by now that MANY people think his relation with his dad is bad for his PRESENT career, so no need to say it thousands times again, what I'm kind of doing, sorry for that. Maybe this is an issue of us want to go to bed knowing at least "we" tried to tell him, and if that made us tic, despite this not being our business, well hurray for us.

Mike, if you read this shit, tnx for posting and if continuing this path makes you more happy than changing strategy, go for it, you will still be more successful than all of us.

Remember if possible "our" critique towards your dad isn't yours to carry.

I really don't care if this respond smells poo among all compliments. What feels right isn't necessary what's right.
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8/13/2009 11:53am
jbomx363 wrote:
I think you're a very well spoken and written bullshitter/spinster. Mike actually care? Well duh? Why else would he come to Vital to post? Mike nor...
I think you're a very well spoken and written bullshitter/spinster.

Mike actually care? Well duh? Why else would he come to Vital to post?

Mike nor AAA denied any of the whispers/rumors/etc. that Matthes wrote about. I'll take non-denial as truthful.
Go with it, if that gets you through the day...

You have some people saying it was an opinion piece and he doesn't need credible facts. Matthes himself said it was an opinion piece. Your mind is made up, and nothing anyone can say will change your mind.

I don't know how much Mike cares about it, really if went everyday worrying about what gets said about him on a message board, he'd go crazy. Him not getting into a pissing contest with Matthes, shows more about who the real professional is.

Matthes needs to write controversial shit to keep people reading his blog. Perez Hilton needs to put controversial shit on his blog to keep his name out there as well. It is what it is, welcome to new media..
8/13/2009 11:56am
"I think you're a very well spoken and written bullshitter/spinster. " - Thank you, I appreciate that.

"Mike actually care? Well duh? Why else would he come to Vital to post? " - Good point. Now I would have been floored if Tony responded. I am still not sure he knows how to turn on a computer.

"Mke nor AAA denied any of the whispers/rumors/etc. that Matthes wrote about. I'll take non-denial as truthful." - Another good point, but if you read between the lines on Mikes comments, I think he said just enough to say all is business as usual in the Alessi camp, he will be healthy soon, will be getting back to his training program and they already have some teams showing interest. Granted he did not stoop to Matthes level to take on the rumors one by one. But I guess he felt, and I would agree, that what he said was enough to make his point. However, as you indicated, that may not have been enough of a response to please everyone. Can't win them all.
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8/13/2009 11:59am Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 1:30am
Trip wrote:
Go with it, if that gets you through the day... You have some people saying it was an opinion piece and he doesn't need credible facts...
Go with it, if that gets you through the day...

You have some people saying it was an opinion piece and he doesn't need credible facts. Matthes himself said it was an opinion piece. Your mind is made up, and nothing anyone can say will change your mind.

I don't know how much Mike cares about it, really if went everyday worrying about what gets said about him on a message board, he'd go crazy. Him not getting into a pissing contest with Matthes, shows more about who the real professional is.

Matthes needs to write controversial shit to keep people reading his blog. Perez Hilton needs to put controversial shit on his blog to keep his name out there as well. It is what it is, welcome to new media..
So Mike just decided out of the blue to show up and post?


What a ditz.

Anyway. Life's still great for all. MA/AAA/Matthes and us dimwits posting on Vital.

I'll keep that mantra: Time will tell.
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8/13/2009 12:02pm
"I think you're a very well spoken and written bullshitter/spinster. " - Thank you, I appreciate that. "Mike actually care? Well duh? Why else would he...
"I think you're a very well spoken and written bullshitter/spinster. " - Thank you, I appreciate that.

"Mike actually care? Well duh? Why else would he come to Vital to post? " - Good point. Now I would have been floored if Tony responded. I am still not sure he knows how to turn on a computer.

"Mke nor AAA denied any of the whispers/rumors/etc. that Matthes wrote about. I'll take non-denial as truthful." - Another good point, but if you read between the lines on Mikes comments, I think he said just enough to say all is business as usual in the Alessi camp, he will be healthy soon, will be getting back to his training program and they already have some teams showing interest. Granted he did not stoop to Matthes level to take on the rumors one by one. But I guess he felt, and I would agree, that what he said was enough to make his point. However, as you indicated, that may not have been enough of a response to please everyone. Can't win them all.
Yep...if it aint broke then don't fix it!
His program has put him at the top of the sport and kept him there.
Sure he has had his string of bad luck,that happens sometimes in this sport.
Hopefully he sticks to his game plan and wins a championship and proves the naysayers wrong!


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