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He'll be gone.
Recently though, we have seen something that we've never seen before.
The past two presidents are still lurking just out of sight, pulling the strings within their respective parties.
It's hard to ignore that.
It's the direct result of a leadership vacuum that exists in both parties.
Neither would have ever risen up to the level of the presidency if voters hadn't become tired of seeing both Republicans and Democrats parade out the same tired candidates every four years.
Not sure that kind of crap is going to change anytime soon.
Scary how government agencies are openly being used against political opponents, and the citizens.
And it's been going on for quite a while now.
Everyone's all up in arms over recent actions by the FBI.
Completely forgetting that good ol' J Edgar Hoover himself set the precedent.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
There used to be a time when political views were but one small part of a person’s identity, and many people’s social circles ran the gamut, because if they liked someone, they didn’t care who they voted for. Now, politics have become many people’s sole criteria for who they date/marry, hang out with, or even talk to. It’s quite frankly pathetic.
I WILL say that I greatly appreciate the site under ML as the previous overlord would seemingly only clip threads/members on one side instead of both. It should be both or neither.
All that said, I’m embarrassed to call myself conservative given the crap that you’ve been spewing out.
I believe politics within this forum have been nothing but, a recipe for disaster. The quickest way to separate and, alienate one another is talking politics. Your point of view does not have to be mine and, my point of view does not have to be yours. I’ve noticed a lot of long standing members are not posting. I’ve also noticed politics have brought out the worst in people. I may have swung by those threads to drop off a meme but, they were usually neutral or, funny. At least from my perspective.
Since politics have been allowed, has there been one political thread that hasn’t turned into a political shit eating contests? Has there been one thread where members weren’t labeling one another as Libtards, Trumptards amongst other things? No. There hasn’t been. Unfortunately, most of the threads started as of late have been nothing more then a soapbox for one to express his viewpoint while, discriminating against others.
That’s not what Vital is about and, I refuse to be a part of it. If need be, this forum.
I’ve made many friends here that I’m grateful for over the time I’ve been a member. Never once were politics brought up between us. They weren’t the reason we joined this forum so, why do we need them now?
Anyways, I’ll check back in after a few months. I hope you guys had a killer weekend.
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I will admit, I do find it interesting that what I assume is a forum filled with mostly adults and yet still some of them can't help themselves from opening a topic that they know will clearly make them unhappy and possibly angry but yet they still click it.
The world is a strange and confusing place in 2022.
After awhile I think some of the political threads get either too personal with attacks and insults or frankly they get very boring so I just step out.
Maybe just a two week expiration date on some of the political threads I wouldn’t be opposed to.
Example: to keep discussing a raid that happened four weeks ago seems very boring. To me anyways.
Some documents may or may not have been found.
Meanwhile school children are murdered while cops stood by and did nothing and that thread dropped off once people stopped caring. If that’s accurate.
I like the political discourse, just wish some (both sides) would just move on to new topics.
I’ll keep bumping the food, knives, and cat threads.
Ya’all do your thing.
And those that do like political threads, why not exercise some self control and keep personal attacks out trolling out of them?
Why is that so hard?
I think after awhile though you get like 10-15 threads going that all devolve into really the same crap, same people, beating the same dead horse. And they are all at the top of the page.
I’m good with house cleaning once a month or whatever make sense.
I do like seeing when someone who has a perspective different from mine provides an explanation of why they do, or if a series of events occurred differently from how I learned.
I agree with Titan, let’s try to civil about it and move on, but in today’s environment that seems hard to do. Social media or mainstream media induced? A frustration as to real or perceived problems that don’t seem to get fixed?
In addition, I like being exposed to a discussion about these things by people by virtue of their interest in riding I believe I share some common ground.
Don’t like, Don’t look!
This board is a different situation and free speech rights don't legally apply and it's also a community that revolves around a shared interest and not designed for hotly debated political issues and the nastiness that can go with it. So guardrails including suspension are understandable.
A few years ago I think the oversite and account suspensions got over the top.
From my view I think ML does about as solid a job intervening as you could expect. He usually drops in with a friendly reminder which is a pretty good signal the thread may have run its course.
Also I think for the most part the guys in non moto are older and do a pretty good job at self regulating even though some of the threads might get a bit ugly. Moto section can get just as ugly and stupid sometimes also. Political issues have a direct and profound impact on my life so sometimes I like to be able to get it off my chest here and also appreciate some of the other viewpoints and info. Justin Barcias latest take out has no impact on my life.
I don't believe I ever get personally offended or upset by anything anybody posts.
Like Titan said, I can stay away from threads I don't like.
Personal choice and responsibility 101.
And that is what is lacking these days.
you’re in for.
Pit Row
It's too bad. I would like to know what other Vitards think about actual policy topics. Don't bother trying.
I've bowed out of the politics, COVID, etc discussions because there is no debate or discussion, it's just instant name calling and schoolyard bullying. Some people seem to think being louder and 'tougher' than the next guy makes them more correct.
In my opinion politics in non-moto is kind of like communism or religion. In theory it's a fine idea, but people are going to fuck it up.
The bloviating will lower in magnitude when most of us figure out which monkeys to quit feeding.
Stay close. You're needed.
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