Lopsided Inventory 2023 KTM Two strokes

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KTM dealer here in Boise ID is receiving Qty 55, 2023 XC300's within the next 3 months.

There only set to receive Qty 3, 2023 SX300's. Same with the 250's. Long waiting list for both going into 2023. Originally the 300 is what I wanted.

I said screw it, and am grabbing one of there 2023 350SXF. Probably have it next month, they sold the 2 that already came in.

Are you fellas seeing the same lopsided inventory, in your neck of the woods?

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three9zero 7/29/2022 3:48pm
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300SX are very limited quantity, my shop only gets one.....
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colintrax 7/29/2022 3:56pm
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Do we officially know all the changes for the SX? If it shares the ignition and gearing of the XC I'd get an XC.
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NeedMoto 7/29/2022 4:39pm
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colintrax wrote:
Do we officially know all the changes for the SX? If it shares the ignition and gearing of the XC I'd get an XC.
Agreed! If it shares those same specs, I'm in for an XC.
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colintrax wrote:
Do we officially know all the changes for the SX? If it shares the ignition and gearing of the XC I'd get an XC.
Not sure about US pricing, but in Canada the XC is $2000 more than an SX.
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bichwolf 7/29/2022 5:25pm
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Been waiting on a 22 390 Adventure, still no word.
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luckypunk 7/29/2022 5:39pm
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carls or moto one? I might be in the market for a 23xc, I had a 19 and miss the big tank & kickstand. I put $20 on the megamillions draw tonite, If I win big your 350 is on me!!
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Local shop told me they were getting 1 or 2 125 sx but 5 125xc. For reference they got 3 2022 crf250r last year but got no RXs.

Since 250/300 xc cost almost $2k more than the sx version and probably outsell the sx but quite a bit I am not surprised they are getting more XCs. You can’t swing a dead cat at a hare scramble without hitting a 300. I am guessing we have more 250sx at a cross country race than at the mx track.
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NeedMoto 7/29/2022 6:30pm
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luckypunk wrote:
carls or moto one? I might be in the market for a 23xc, I had a 19 and miss the big tank & kickstand. I put...
carls or moto one? I might be in the market for a 23xc, I had a 19 and miss the big tank & kickstand. I put $20 on the megamillions draw tonite, If I win big your 350 is on me!!
HaHa, it's at Carls.
Langhammx 7/29/2022 6:36pm
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I’ve got my name on a SX and a XC300. I didn’t ask how many they were getting, but I’ll inquire.
October seems to be release date still. Hoping maybe late September on the SX, if the rumor is true.
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I can’t wait to hear some real world reviews on the 300. I really want one but looks like the 2024 will have to be mine sounds like there is severely limited inventory coming
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I think they send bikes to locations based on what they think is going to sell. Reality is MX bikes are selling nowhere near off road bikes. Culprit is probably short race motos and price gouging by a limited number of local venues.

Off road world is still doing fine though . But, they probably aren’t sending that proportion of bikes to Baltimore or Newark
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NeedMoto 7/29/2022 7:24pm
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Langhammx wrote:
I’ve got my name on a SX and a XC300. I didn’t ask how many they were getting, but I’ll inquire. October seems to be release...
I’ve got my name on a SX and a XC300. I didn’t ask how many they were getting, but I’ll inquire.
October seems to be release date still. Hoping maybe late September on the SX, if the rumor is true.
Your usually in the know...-Smile Any idea if the XC is using the same transmission as the SX?

Likely the same platform as previous years, but you never know...
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Langhammx wrote:
I’ve got my name on a SX and a XC300. I didn’t ask how many they were getting, but I’ll inquire. October seems to be release...
I’ve got my name on a SX and a XC300. I didn’t ask how many they were getting, but I’ll inquire.
October seems to be release date still. Hoping maybe late September on the SX, if the rumor is true.
NeedMoto wrote:
Your usually in the know...-:) Any idea if the XC is using the same transmission as the SX? Likely the same platform as previous years, but...
Your usually in the know...-Smile Any idea if the XC is using the same transmission as the SX?

Likely the same platform as previous years, but you never know...
Website says 6 speed for the XC, 5 speed for the SX.
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Langhammx 7/29/2022 7:37pm
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Langhammx wrote:
I’ve got my name on a SX and a XC300. I didn’t ask how many they were getting, but I’ll inquire. October seems to be release...
I’ve got my name on a SX and a XC300. I didn’t ask how many they were getting, but I’ll inquire.
October seems to be release date still. Hoping maybe late September on the SX, if the rumor is true.
NeedMoto wrote:
Your usually in the know...-:) Any idea if the XC is using the same transmission as the SX? Likely the same platform as previous years, but...
Your usually in the know...-Smile Any idea if the XC is using the same transmission as the SX?

Likely the same platform as previous years, but you never know...
The XC will be a 6-speed
SX is a 5-speed
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NeedMoto 7/29/2022 7:47pm
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Langhammx wrote:
I’ve got my name on a SX and a XC300. I didn’t ask how many they were getting, but I’ll inquire. October seems to be release...
I’ve got my name on a SX and a XC300. I didn’t ask how many they were getting, but I’ll inquire.
October seems to be release date still. Hoping maybe late September on the SX, if the rumor is true.
NeedMoto wrote:
Your usually in the know...-:) Any idea if the XC is using the same transmission as the SX? Likely the same platform as previous years, but...
Your usually in the know...-Smile Any idea if the XC is using the same transmission as the SX?

Likely the same platform as previous years, but you never know...
Langhammx wrote:
The XC will be a 6-speed
SX is a 5-speed
Thanks!
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Hcallz5 7/29/2022 7:57pm
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Wait is the XC300 TBI or TPI for 23?
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racerxx276 7/29/2022 7:59pm
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I picked up my 23 350sxf this week, planning on riding it tomorrow. Hope its better then my 22...
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NeedMoto 7/29/2022 8:03pm
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racerxx276 wrote:
I picked up my 23 350sxf this week, planning on riding it tomorrow. Hope its better then my 22...
OMC? Skyline? or else where?

Definitely give us a ride report!

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NeedMoto 7/29/2022 8:04pm
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Hcallz5 wrote:
Wait is the XC300 TBI or TPI for 23?
TBI
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FilthyGrungy 7/30/2022 4:17am
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XC and XCW will share a tranny now that is closer to the xc tranny instead of the w, SX gets a moto tranny
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racerxx276 7/30/2022 12:31pm
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racerxx276 wrote:
I picked up my 23 350sxf this week, planning on riding it tomorrow. Hope its better then my 22...
NeedMoto wrote:
OMC? Skyline? or else where?

Definitely give us a ride report!
Not a big fan of either track.. jump, jump, jump bowl turn isn't my idea of MX .

So , The good... The motor is way faster than my 22, the rear shock is amazing, aer forks are ... well aer forks.
The new frame is Stiff!

Not sure I need the motor this 350 puts out. I'm 67, I like my 22 motor better.

I'm on the fence on keeping it quite honestly... I only have 18 hrs on my 22 so I can keep it for another year easily.
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NeedMoto 7/30/2022 12:51pm
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racerxx276 wrote:
I picked up my 23 350sxf this week, planning on riding it tomorrow. Hope its better then my 22...
NeedMoto wrote:
OMC? Skyline? or else where?

Definitely give us a ride report!
racerxx276 wrote:
Not a big fan of either track.. jump, jump, jump bowl turn isn't my idea of MX . So , The good... The motor is way...
Not a big fan of either track.. jump, jump, jump bowl turn isn't my idea of MX .

So , The good... The motor is way faster than my 22, the rear shock is amazing, aer forks are ... well aer forks.
The new frame is Stiff!

Not sure I need the motor this 350 puts out. I'm 67, I like my 22 motor better.

I'm on the fence on keeping it quite honestly... I only have 18 hrs on my 22 so I can keep it for another year easily.
I totally get it with the tracks. I'm right behind you at 62.

Thanks for the ride report.

If your serious about not wanting the 23, reach out to me. Ive got my deposit at Carls for the next batch of 350's coming in, but would consider yours if you want to unload it.
suspensionguy 7/30/2022 1:53pm
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colintrax wrote:
Do we officially know all the changes for the SX? If it shares the ignition and gearing of the XC I'd get an XC.
Different timing, compression and gearing. Xc is also $2k more.
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suspensionguy 7/30/2022 1:54pm
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FilthyGrungy wrote:
XC and XCW will share a tranny now that is closer to the xc tranny instead of the w, SX gets a moto tranny
No it will not. The xcw’s remain basically un-changed from last year.
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FilthyGrungy wrote:
XC and XCW will share a tranny now that is closer to the xc tranny instead of the w, SX gets a moto tranny
suspensionguy wrote:
No it will not. The xcw’s remain basically un-changed from last year.
Kinda. 24 xcw should have the same tranny as the 23 and on XC. But yes the 23 xcw, like always is a year behind with updates. 24 XCW and XC will be much similar bikes then in previous years.
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lumpy790 7/30/2022 4:14pm
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Was looking at both the 2023 150 and 250 XC-W today and they are the same as 2022
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NeedMoto wrote:
OMC? Skyline? or else where?

Definitely give us a ride report!
racerxx276 wrote:
Not a big fan of either track.. jump, jump, jump bowl turn isn't my idea of MX . So , The good... The motor is way...
Not a big fan of either track.. jump, jump, jump bowl turn isn't my idea of MX .

So , The good... The motor is way faster than my 22, the rear shock is amazing, aer forks are ... well aer forks.
The new frame is Stiff!

Not sure I need the motor this 350 puts out. I'm 67, I like my 22 motor better.

I'm on the fence on keeping it quite honestly... I only have 18 hrs on my 22 so I can keep it for another year easily.
NeedMoto wrote:
I totally get it with the tracks. I'm right behind you at 62. Thanks for the ride report. If your serious about not wanting the 23...
I totally get it with the tracks. I'm right behind you at 62.

Thanks for the ride report.

If your serious about not wanting the 23, reach out to me. Ive got my deposit at Carls for the next batch of 350's coming in, but would consider yours if you want to unload it.
Email me at kularoo@me.com still undecided but we can talk...
Langhammx 7/30/2022 7:04pm
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thearc wrote:
Kinda. 24 xcw should have the same tranny as the 23 and on XC. But yes the 23 xcw, like always is a year behind with...
Kinda. 24 xcw should have the same tranny as the 23 and on XC. But yes the 23 xcw, like always is a year behind with updates. 24 XCW and XC will be much similar bikes then in previous years.
I was reading a thread that said the TBI won’t pass the emissions test in Europe and the XCW is called the EXC and us street legal. So the XCW wouldn’t be going to TBI. The article was in a Euro magazine, but not do not remember where I saw it.
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colintrax wrote:
Do we officially know all the changes for the SX? If it shares the ignition and gearing of the XC I'd get an XC.
suspensionguy wrote:
Different timing, compression and gearing. Xc is also $2k more.
Igniting timing or port timing? They used to use the same port timing between xc and sx, same part number cylinder across the table as long as you matched displacement.

From the sounds of it, its basically the same 300sx as its always been, its just getting hyped up cause you don't have to buy the kit and build it yourself.

Used to be:
Sx: sx high comp head, sx ignition, and if you went from a 250 then a 300xc/sx cylinder
Xc: xc head, xc ignition, different flywheel, different trans gearing
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Moto520 8/1/2022 9:51am
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KTM is badass.....great for the sport with their new models and such.
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