Tomac

What can you even say. Doesn’t seem to matter about starts. He is just unreal. I wish we could see RC in his prime race him. Who would you pick?
* Roczen I am just so curious about. Other than Alesia who holeshots more and can’t finish with a win?
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Had Eli won a title or two in sx during those 3 years he came in second would he be up there with the all time greats like Ricky and MC?
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7/9/2022 1:22pm
Too bad Star Yamaha and Eli didn't work together earlier in Elis career....we'd be looking at a whole different GOAT picture. (....and I've never been an Eli fan boi)
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7/9/2022 1:32pm
Magoofan wrote:
Too bad Star Yamaha and Eli didn't work together earlier in Elis career....we'd be looking at a whole different GOAT picture. (....and I've never been an...
Too bad Star Yamaha and Eli didn't work together earlier in Elis career....we'd be looking at a whole different GOAT picture. (....and I've never been an Eli fan boi)
Yea. 4 titles on the kawy are horrible. .😏
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7/9/2022 2:42pm
mxb2 wrote:
Yea. 4 titles on the kawy are horrible. .😏
You missed the point. There could have been more. Kawi held his full potential back. Look at how Elis whole mental game has changed. There is no more Elito Mac.

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Eli Tomac will end up a legend in this sport. I’m enjoying watching him race.
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Eli is one of the all time best and he operates by his own program.Doesn't fall into the social media trap and is focused on his riding and his life to be his own. Much respect for this young man
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7/9/2022 6:13pm
mxb2 wrote:
Yea. 4 titles on the kawy are horrible. .😏
In line to win SX and MX titles after switching teams and brands?
Legend!!
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mxb2 wrote:
Yea. 4 titles on the kawy are horrible. .😏
captmoto wrote:
In line to win SX and MX titles after switching teams and brands?
Legend!!
Nobody’s ever done that. Except Ricky. Twice.
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7/9/2022 7:17pm
150ripper wrote:
Had Eli won a title or two in sx during those 3 years he came in second would he be up there with the all time...
Had Eli won a title or two in sx during those 3 years he came in second would he be up there with the all time greats like Ricky and MC?
If he gets the outdoor championship he will have 2 SX and 4 outdoor titles plus his lites titles. I don’t think anyone can argue he IS one of the greats
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mxb2 wrote:
Yea. 4 titles on the kawy are horrible. .😏
captmoto wrote:
In line to win SX and MX titles after switching teams and brands?
Legend!!
LoudLove wrote:
Nobody’s ever done that. Except Ricky. Twice.
RJ in 86 too
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7/9/2022 7:26pm
cmotodad wrote:
Eli is one of the all time best and he operates by his own program.Doesn't fall into the social media trap and is focused on his...
Eli is one of the all time best and he operates by his own program.Doesn't fall into the social media trap and is focused on his riding and his life to be his own. Much respect for this young man
Agree. Well said..
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7/9/2022 11:20pm
When James in 08 laid down a perfect season he was unreal, and RC won everything between 04-05 it was insane.

but Tomac, when he hits that 6th gear....I dont know if ive seen more impressive racing. In 2015 on his Geico honda, the shit he did at Glen helen and lapping 3rd at Hangtown blew my mind and i dont know if RC or Stew could do that,

but a race between all three would be all time
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7/10/2022 12:47am
I will be sad if Eli hangs it up after this year out doors ... does one more SX season and calls it quits. He's still a puppy...

Many good years ahead of him. I have my fingers crossed.
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PTshox wrote:
I will be sad if Eli hangs it up after this year out doors ... does one more SX season and calls it quits. He's still...
I will be sad if Eli hangs it up after this year out doors ... does one more SX season and calls it quits. He's still a puppy...

Many good years ahead of him. I have my fingers crossed.
Yeah I'm hoping he changes his mind.

I fuckin love watching him ride when he's on, it's so much anger coupled with all these little mtb techniques and a wfo throttle. Pretty unique.
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I have ridden Southwick a lot and seen the best in the world race there and I have to say I have never seen anyone go as fast as Tomac did this past weekend. That bikes suspension was amazing. I saw him over jump shit land in or on braking bumps and it was nothing to him. In the first Moto down henry highway you jump off heading to the pits his bike got squirrelly he just man handlers that 450 straighten it out pinned unbelievable.
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7/10/2022 7:55am
150ripper wrote:
Had Eli won a title or two in sx during those 3 years he came in second would he be up there with the all time...
Had Eli won a title or two in sx during those 3 years he came in second would he be up there with the all time greats like Ricky and MC?
So Eli has 4 MX titles working on his 5th isn't all time but MC who has 1 MX title is? When it comes to Motocross Eli is vastly superior to MC.
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7/10/2022 7:59am
150ripper wrote:
Had Eli won a title or two in sx during those 3 years he came in second would he be up there with the all time...
Had Eli won a title or two in sx during those 3 years he came in second would he be up there with the all time greats like Ricky and MC?
Park Boys wrote:
So Eli has 4 MX titles working on his 5th isn't all time but MC who has 1 MX title is? When it comes to Motocross...
So Eli has 4 MX titles working on his 5th isn't all time but MC who has 1 MX title is? When it comes to Motocross Eli is vastly superior to MC.
Exactly,. He passed stewart in 450 mx wins ,titles. Guess stewart isnt a all time great either. Lol.
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mxb2 wrote:
Yea. 4 titles on the kawy are horrible. .😏
Magoofan wrote:
You missed the point. There could have been more. Kawi held his full potential back. Look at how Elis whole mental game has changed. There is...
You missed the point. There could have been more. Kawi held his full potential back. Look at how Elis whole mental game has changed. There is no more Elito Mac.

We will never know, you could say that about alot of teams riders etc.
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People are gonna say I’m crazy but I think tomac is second to RC. The rides he put in on the geico bike in 2015 were insane. He has his times when he doesn’t gel with the bike and doesn’t do amazing but when it’s the opposite is so impressive.

I think he has the speed to win by a minute or so but has learned he doesn’t have to.
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7/10/2022 8:16am Edited Date/Time 7/10/2022 8:16am
Pretty impressive ride in the first moto yesterday. He was 12th across the holeshot line and at 25 minutes to go in the moto he was 9.5 seconds behind the leader. Went by everyone and pulled out to a 10+ second lead before cruising it home to the win.
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7/10/2022 8:43am
He looks as comfortable as he was in ‘15 on that Geico. Guy is an animal when he is on it. Love to see it
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mxb2 wrote:
Yea. 4 titles on the kawy are horrible. .😏
Magoofan wrote:
You missed the point. There could have been more. Kawi held his full potential back. Look at how Elis whole mental game has changed. There is...
You missed the point. There could have been more. Kawi held his full potential back. Look at how Elis whole mental game has changed. There is no more Elito Mac.

Don't know why you're getting down voted its the truth.
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7/10/2022 8:50am
When James in 08 laid down a perfect season he was unreal, and RC won everything between 04-05 it was insane. but Tomac, when he hits...
When James in 08 laid down a perfect season he was unreal, and RC won everything between 04-05 it was insane.

but Tomac, when he hits that 6th gear....I dont know if ive seen more impressive racing. In 2015 on his Geico honda, the shit he did at Glen helen and lapping 3rd at Hangtown blew my mind and i dont know if RC or Stew could do that,

but a race between all three would be all time
RC lapped second place at Spring Creek in 2006.
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7/10/2022 8:57am Edited Date/Time 7/10/2022 8:57am
Magoofan wrote:
Too bad Star Yamaha and Eli didn't work together earlier in Elis career....we'd be looking at a whole different GOAT picture. (....and I've never been an...
Too bad Star Yamaha and Eli didn't work together earlier in Elis career....we'd be looking at a whole different GOAT picture. (....and I've never been an Eli fan boi)
At most he would could of gone there 1 year earlier (they talked to Star in 2020 salt lake) but considering Star didn’t take over 450 til 2021 he really couldn’t have gone there before the 2021 season.
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7/10/2022 9:02am
Tomac and RC have blazing speed but RC had it consistently.
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7/10/2022 9:06am Edited Date/Time 7/10/2022 9:06am
mxb2 wrote:
Yea. 4 titles on the kawy are horrible. .😏
Magoofan wrote:
You missed the point. There could have been more. Kawi held his full potential back. Look at how Elis whole mental game has changed. There is...
You missed the point. There could have been more. Kawi held his full potential back. Look at how Elis whole mental game has changed. There is no more Elito Mac.

Don't know why you're getting down voted its the truth.
Truth hurts some people.

Downvotes mean nothing.

If someone disagrees, they should have the sack to say so....and why.

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7/10/2022 9:08am
I have ridden Southwick a lot and seen the best in the world race there and I have to say I have never seen anyone go...
I have ridden Southwick a lot and seen the best in the world race there and I have to say I have never seen anyone go as fast as Tomac did this past weekend. That bikes suspension was amazing. I saw him over jump shit land in or on braking bumps and it was nothing to him. In the first Moto down henry highway you jump off heading to the pits his bike got squirrelly he just man handlers that 450 straighten it out pinned unbelievable.
Couldn't agree more...It's absolutely insane. And it's hard to understand and realize if you have not seen him at this track in person. There has never been a rider blitz the sand, ruts and bumps of a humid Southwick like Tomac. NEVER... Literally gets a horrible start, it doesn't matter. He works his way up passing by out hustling and wearing down anyone in front of him working inside to outside to making his own line cross rutting wide open till he's in the lead then he is gone.. How he's able to walk after muscling that bike on those rough down hills, up hills and sweepers with that speed for 35 plus minutes is also amazing. He's one of the best ever. Not the best, but dam sure is in the conversation. So glad I got to see that yesterday.
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7/10/2022 9:08am
Magoofan wrote:
You missed the point. There could have been more. Kawi held his full potential back. Look at how Elis whole mental game has changed. There is...
You missed the point. There could have been more. Kawi held his full potential back. Look at how Elis whole mental game has changed. There is no more Elito Mac.

Don't know why you're getting down voted its the truth.
Magoofan wrote:
Truth hurts some people.

Downvotes mean nothing.

If someone disagrees, they should have the sack to say so....and why.

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I down voted you because you always sound like an emotional triggered victim
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7/10/2022 9:12am Edited Date/Time 7/10/2022 9:18am
soggy wrote:
At most he would could of gone there 1 year earlier (they talked to Star in 2020 salt lake) but considering Star didn’t take over 450...
At most he would could of gone there 1 year earlier (they talked to Star in 2020 salt lake) but considering Star didn’t take over 450 til 2021 he really couldn’t have gone there before the 2021 season.
I totally understand the logistics. I'm only saying IF Star had the 450 program AND Eli, we'd be looking at a very different picture.

Eli is in a completely different mindset with Star. Sure, beast mode was always there. But we had stressed, no smiles Eli, we also had inconsistent and bizarre Elito Mac. Kawi being too rigid to rider input/changes had to be a huge factor.

There is no denying that Eli has gelled with Star....that never really happened at Kawi.
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