MX vs ATV Legends

Dirtydane
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6/30/2022 4:20am
Im so bummed! I have been looking forward to this so much!

This is the first game ever that I have returned on Steam and asked for a refund Sad
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6/30/2022 4:28am
Creiz wrote:
For those who get stuck on the 250 2stroke bug, just change the "tuning" to something else. Fixed it for me. Played it a bit more...
For those who get stuck on the 250 2stroke bug, just change the "tuning" to something else. Fixed it for me. Played it a bit more and got a fully upgraded bike, and the game still feels like trash. The sound overall is just so horrible that its probably better to play on mute with music. And everyone saying just give it some time and upgrade and it is a good game.. Well, for me it just gets worse, because the bugs just keeps piling up... I guess you are happy because you dont know what to expect. At least this is a huge disappointment for me and would gladly get a refund if I could on xbox.
Same here, the more i play the worse it feels. Idk good environments, good track designs, on PC the game looks good but the gameplay just don’t fit in it.
Is kind of weird the bike feels heavier than it was in all out but is stiff like a bmx no suspension at all.
You cant bring back the bike in the air and i think they should force the bike in some way to bring back itself. Whips should start in the face of the jump not in mid air.
Yes the game has potential but i don’t recommend buying it now.
6/30/2022 5:56am
What's the AI like guys?
6/30/2022 7:02am
What's the AI like guys?
IMO, not very good. I can easily beat them by 30 seconds on the hardest setting. I’m hoping when i get to the pro races instead of ams they will be harder, but not holding my breath.
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6/30/2022 7:06am
Third person looks like the bike and terrain aren't coinciding. First person looks great though. Better sense of speed and immersion
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6/30/2022 7:10am
Just trying to grind out the career mode. My dumbass wants to unlock that Enduro finale
6/30/2022 7:16am
Just to be fair and thorough, i booted the game back up last night and spent a couple more hours on it. Fully upgraded both 250s, messed around with the "tuning" (if you can call it that), finished a bunch of races aaaaand......nope. While marginally better once you upgrade, the game is still a turd. The core mechanics are fundamentally broken, and no patch is going to fix it.

If you're on the fence about it, reading the comments and thinking that "it'll get better once i upgrade everything", TRUST ME, it won't.

Spend your money somewhere else, this lazy ass attempt at a game does not deserve it.

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6/30/2022 7:37am
Creiz wrote:
For those who get stuck on the 250 2stroke bug, just change the "tuning" to something else. Fixed it for me. Played it a bit more...
For those who get stuck on the 250 2stroke bug, just change the "tuning" to something else. Fixed it for me. Played it a bit more and got a fully upgraded bike, and the game still feels like trash. The sound overall is just so horrible that its probably better to play on mute with music. And everyone saying just give it some time and upgrade and it is a good game.. Well, for me it just gets worse, because the bugs just keeps piling up... I guess you are happy because you dont know what to expect. At least this is a huge disappointment for me and would gladly get a refund if I could on xbox.
Thank you for the tip. It seems to be related to the Clutch upgrades. If I have the 3rd upgrade to the right applied, the bike bugs out.
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6/30/2022 8:30am
The fact that there are some (albeit very few) that seem to enjoy this has led me to believe there has to be multiple versions of this thing out there..

Whatever it is that I have been playing is inexcusably bad.

Relatively speaking, considering what is available, this might be the worst looking game I have ever played. What I am seeing looks and feels like something from 20 years ago. Physics wise, by far the worst in the entire franchise.

How anyone could claim this as a successor to All Out is beyond me. It's worse in every single way.
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6/30/2022 9:50am
Third person looks like the bike and terrain aren't coinciding. First person looks great though. Better sense of speed and immersion
You hit the nail on the head. I noticed the same thing but didn't know how to describe it. They need to fix that and stop the sliding.

also, hit the rear break in supercross it helps you turn better.
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6/30/2022 9:58am
JN137 wrote:
The fact that there are some (albeit very few) that seem to enjoy this has led me to believe there has to be multiple versions of...
The fact that there are some (albeit very few) that seem to enjoy this has led me to believe there has to be multiple versions of this thing out there..

Whatever it is that I have been playing is inexcusably bad.

Relatively speaking, considering what is available, this might be the worst looking game I have ever played. What I am seeing looks and feels like something from 20 years ago. Physics wise, by far the worst in the entire franchise.

How anyone could claim this as a successor to All Out is beyond me. It's worse in every single way.
Right. I tried to play the first couple races in career mode on my Xbox Series X on a 125 and I can't even clear any of the jumps on the opening tracks. I have seen a couple of others say the same thing as me, but the gameplay I have seen online looks different than the game I am playing (Unless I am just terrible at the game). It is basically unplayable for me, not fun at all....
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6/30/2022 12:27pm
After playing SX/MX games since the very first one here is my opinion...
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6/30/2022 12:53pm
SPODEBOY wrote:
After playing SX/MX games since the very first one here is my opinion...
yes...?
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6/30/2022 1:06pm
Playing in first person, I think the game actually does feel pretty good. My biggest problem is that they have seemingly removed terrain deformation from the game. I haven't really seen anyone else mention it, but I'm assuming others are seeing the same thing?
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6/30/2022 1:10pm
Didn't All Out come out with a bunch of problems and the dev team went to work, put out a bunch of patches, and got better each month?

Nothing new.
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6/30/2022 1:19pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Didn't All Out come out with a bunch of problems and the dev team went to work, put out a bunch of patches, and got better...
Didn't All Out come out with a bunch of problems and the dev team went to work, put out a bunch of patches, and got better each month?

Nothing new.
Yes. The initial reception to All Out was much worse than this. These guys have completely selective memory
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6/30/2022 1:27pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Didn't All Out come out with a bunch of problems and the dev team went to work, put out a bunch of patches, and got better...
Didn't All Out come out with a bunch of problems and the dev team went to work, put out a bunch of patches, and got better each month?

Nothing new.
zehn wrote:
Yes. The initial reception to All Out was much worse than this. These guys have completely selective memory
Yet a lot of people praise All Out as being the best in the franchise or the best since Reflex.

When All Out came out, it was a far cry from what it is today. People just need to give it time like they did with All Out.

There's way bigger studios that put out games that require patches on day 1. Sure it sucks, but it's nothing new.
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6/30/2022 2:01pm
So is there any bundle that includes all of the OEM vehicles?
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6/30/2022 2:49pm
Play the game in first person. I don't even like that view, but this game shines in it.

It becomes something very enjoyable. At least for me. Bugs aside.

Just remember we couldn't play All-Out when it first came out.
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6/30/2022 2:50pm
JL13 wrote:
So is there any bundle that includes all of the OEM vehicles?
Icon bundle includes them all plus the dlc trackpass
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6/30/2022 2:53pm
JL13 wrote:
So is there any bundle that includes all of the OEM vehicles?
Icon bundle includes them all plus the dlc trackpass
Looks like that bundle was only available during pre-order stage and is no longer available.
6/30/2022 4:52pm
JL13 wrote:
So is there any bundle that includes all of the OEM vehicles?
Icon bundle includes them all plus the dlc trackpass
JL13 wrote:
Looks like that bundle was only available during pre-order stage and is no longer available.
It’s still available on PC on steam, not sure about console
6/30/2022 6:23pm Edited Date/Time 6/30/2022 6:28pm
I already like this better than All Out even with the few issues it has. For me on PC they have been minimal.

The tracks in this game are amazing. Such a huge variety. I think once fixes start coming out people will grow to love this game.

ATM I'm still using my KTM 125 2 stroke and have no issues clearing obstacles or getting around tracks. If I make mistakes i obviously don't clear the biggest obstacles. But on a clean lap it's doable on an upgraded 125.

The PC version so far for me has crashed once. Has some sound issues where once full throttle bikes sound quieter, stock bikes are just crap like they were in All Out... But otherwise has been an amazing experience for me. It feels so much like All Out with a bit more weight to everything. Though i can still preload and seat bounce my 125 and get insane air. I think though that PC has a better build than consoles. I will grab this on my Series X or PS5 once it's running smoothly so i can play it in the lounge room on my big screen. But so happy playing it on PC. I think it feels improved over All Out mostly in the handling and physics. But the stock bikes make it feel terrible
6/30/2022 8:06pm
Bit the bullet and purchased. From the first trigger pull in the tutorial I could already tell this is going to be a good game eventually.

*I did switch to pro physics and manual gears right away

Very good physics base, right stick controls riders weight and actually puts the rider over the front or standing. Lean angle coming into corners is good. The speed is slowed way down from previous games and way more realistic. I rolled a corner in 2nd on the 125 clicked 3rd at the perfect time on accident and the dude did the sickest seat bounce huck and cleared the jump.

Is it wonky as hell right now? Yes. But only playing it 20 mins so far and I’m already excited to put more time into it and try a proper unlocked 450

I’ve played every mx vs atv since off-road fury. I would say the physics fall somewhere between reflex and Alive with the dual stick feeling of all out.
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6/30/2022 8:59pm
If this game came out before all out then things would make since. How could you have gone from all out to this. Everything they did right in all out they did wrong in this game
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6/30/2022 9:40pm
tobz wrote:
A game that’s hard is different to a turd of a game, a goon rider, bad physics, rough graphics and the worse sound effects to ever...
A game that’s hard is different to a turd of a game, a goon rider, bad physics, rough graphics and the worse sound effects to ever grace a moto game.

One step forward (whoopee, you’ve got to upgrade your bike to make the game less shit), 4 steps backwards.
The stock bikes have sucked in every motocross game for the last decade, dude.
tobz wrote:
Maybe time to let that fad go and use those resources on improving immersion with half decent audio? A less goony rider?
I remember when Alive came out and the rider was a complete goon stance and I was one of the first to point it out on the official Rainbow forums. Enough people agreed and they actually changed the stance of the rider and it was heaps better.

Sounds like the audio is disappointing though and hopefully it can be improved upon...it's 2022 and games with shit audio are not very common these days.

I forgot I had 50 bucks in my Steam wallet and I think I'll pick it up and take the plunge...not sure how many original devs are still at Rainbow but back in the day they were very open to feedback and changing things.

Besides that, Reflex was one of my most played online games and still highest hours in my Steam library at over 1500 hrs.
Got some good memories of racing people...Disbanded from here was one and I'm sure there were others but his name stands out...and of course who could forget "Blaster"...not sure if he has a Vital connection but any time I logged on to the game at any time of the day he was there...he pretty much played it 24/7 and beating him was a VERY tall order.
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gerg wrote:
I remember when Alive came out and the rider was a complete goon stance and I was one of the first to point it out on...
I remember when Alive came out and the rider was a complete goon stance and I was one of the first to point it out on the official Rainbow forums. Enough people agreed and they actually changed the stance of the rider and it was heaps better.

Sounds like the audio is disappointing though and hopefully it can be improved upon...it's 2022 and games with shit audio are not very common these days.

I forgot I had 50 bucks in my Steam wallet and I think I'll pick it up and take the plunge...not sure how many original devs are still at Rainbow but back in the day they were very open to feedback and changing things.

Besides that, Reflex was one of my most played online games and still highest hours in my Steam library at over 1500 hrs.
Got some good memories of racing people...Disbanded from here was one and I'm sure there were others but his name stands out...and of course who could forget "Blaster"...not sure if he has a Vital connection but any time I logged on to the game at any time of the day he was there...he pretty much played it 24/7 and beating him was a VERY tall order.
The Reazn was a dev here i think, and he gave alot of feedback when all out was launched, but i havent seen anything here yet
7/1/2022 6:15am
I have about 25 hrs in, game is fuking awesome. Just going to get better. Once you play around with the tuning and find what works for you, game is so so so fun.

These games take time to learn how to play. No one seems willing to invest it. "I played 2 round of the career on the stock 125 and it sucks"......seriously? Does your complete lack of commitment extend to other areas of your life? How many other things do you quit immediately with no effort? Sad.

Im sure me having fun and liking the game will continue to upset people, that's the Vital way. The AMA nationals are so super fun. Also, honestly ripping the UTV side by sides in the open world is very, very fun. Super fast and loose, really entertaining.


We have a ton of amazing stock nationals, the full 2022 AMA nationals, all OEM bikes, tons of supercross options, ATVs, UTVs, huge open world free ride environments, and a dev team that will continue to tweak and update the game for the next few years.

SO we have this for a more arcade experience, then a more realism based MESX series for the authentic supercross racing experience. That's pretty damn cool.
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7/1/2022 7:00am
I hope this game gets as much DLC as All Out did, if not more. While the Milestone side of the family puts out a new game each year, it would be awesome of this one builds and builds
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7/1/2022 7:17am
Its becoming my fav game in the series.

I know the 250 2 stroke sounds horrible, but the clutch engagement feels sooooo good. Doesn't feel like a rocket booster anymore and i'm not slapping down up to preload, just lean back and get some.

Gotta give this game time.
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